Calculate the entropy changes of the system and the surroundings

In summary, to calculate the entropy changes of the system and surroundings, the problem gives the initial and final states for a reversible case and asks for the same values for an irreversible case. The change in entropy of the system will be the same for both cases, but to find the change in entropy of the surroundings for the irreversible case, you must first determine the amount of work done in the first step and the amount of heat transferred in both steps.
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Homework Statement



Calculate the entropy changes of the system and the surroundings if the initial and final states are the same
as in part a ( part a= 2.000 mol of neon (assume ideal with CV,m _ 3R/2) is expanded isothermally at 298.15K from 2.000 atm pressure to 1.000 atm pressure and is then heated from 298.15K to 398.15K at a constant pressure of 1.000 atm) , but if the gas is expanded irreversibly and isothermally against an external pressure of 1.000 atm and then heated irreversibly with the surroundings remaining essentially at equilibrium at 400 K.

2.000 mol of neon

CV,m = 3R/2

T1= 298.15K

T2= 400 K.

P1= 2.000 atm v1= 24,4 L

P2=Pext = 1.000 atm v2= 48,89L

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The Attempt at a Solution



I think I am getting a bit confused here because the problem asks for the entropy changes of the system and the surroundings, but how to calculate the surroundings for irreversibly?ΔS u = ΔS sist + ΔS surro

ΔSsurroundings = qsurroundings /Tsurroundings = − q system /T surrounding
 

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In the irreversible case, the change in entropy of the system is the same as for the reversible case. To find the change in entropy of the surroundings for the irreversible case, you must first determine the amount of work done in the first step. If the final temperature is equal to the initial temperature in the first step, what is the amount of heat transferred in the first step? What is the amount of heat transferred in the second step?
 

Related to Calculate the entropy changes of the system and the surroundings

1. What is entropy and why is it important in thermodynamics?

Entropy is a measure of the disorder or randomness in a system. In thermodynamics, it is important because it helps us understand the direction and efficiency of energy transformations and chemical reactions.

2. How do you calculate the entropy changes of a system?

The entropy change of a system can be calculated using the equation ΔS = Q/T, where ΔS is the change in entropy, Q is the heat added or removed from the system, and T is the temperature in Kelvin.

3. What factors affect the entropy changes of a system?

The factors that affect entropy changes include temperature, pressure, volume, and number of particles. In general, an increase in these factors leads to an increase in entropy.

4. How do you calculate the entropy changes of the surroundings?

The entropy changes of the surroundings can be calculated using the equation ΔS = -Q/T, where Q is the heat transferred to or from the surroundings and T is the temperature in Kelvin.

5. Can entropy be negative?

Yes, entropy can be negative. A negative change in entropy indicates a decrease in disorder or randomness in the system, which is possible in certain conditions such as a decrease in temperature or a reaction that results in a more ordered state.

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