So apparently some of the people herein (1? zoob) think that all I have to do is "get a job" which tells me that some of you haven't a clue what it is like to "start back up", from the bottom.
Having arrived in Calgary with $35.00 in my pocket, the clothes on my back, a tent, backpack with change of pants, top(2), shorts and underwear, (no socks!) bout as much as I could carry on a bicycle, I started back up from the bottom, at 43 years of age so's I probably have a better idea of what the problems are, then any of you.
Hence my curiosity is expressed herein inasmuch as I would like to know just how simple/complex you think it is, to "start back" out.
BTW what I did for my country, and it's resultant use around the World, the apparent savings, to the Canadian peoples, of Approx $40,000,000.00 dollars, the redeeming of the legislation from the pit that is was 'perhaps' about to be thrown into, again, hence the assitance in the protection of the children of Canada, are all rendered meaningless by the current Government, so don't wonder 'why' I would rather "do nothing" then give anything to them ever again.
(By extension so am I!!, {Rendered meaningless/worthless/useless} But No, I do NOT feel that way, so don't be stupid, it is simply an acceptance of the clearly expressed belief and practise of/by others)
P.S. if you would wish to start, well, I presently live in a tent, have no money, a bicycle, (and I am 47 now!) and basically nothing else......so, GO for IT!!!
Monique
Nov3-03, 01:38 PM
I read your post several times, but I still don't understand it fully. You willingly chose to start over from scratch?
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov3-03, 01:46 PM
Originally posted by Monique
I read your post several times, but I still don't understand it fully. You willingly chose to start over from scratch?
Where do you get that from??, can you not tell, I have no choice about it!
Adrian Baker
Nov3-03, 01:57 PM
Some tent... with a PC and internet access! [:D]
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov3-03, 02:05 PM
Originally posted by Adrian Baker
Some tent... with a PC and internet access! [:D]
Humm, didn't start this one for 'others' to be making fun of me for this, if you haven't got something to contribute, please don't bother!!, thanks!
Andy
Nov3-03, 02:09 PM
You had to expect that Mr Robin Parsons, remember that there are alot of new members using this site that dont have a clue about your predicament so expect a few questions to be asked, remember what me and entropy where like.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov3-03, 02:18 PM
Originally posted by Andy
You had to expect that Mr Robin Parsons, remember that there are alot of new members using this site that dont have a clue about your predicament so expect a few questions to be asked, remember what me and entropy where like.
Hadn't forgotten, Entropy Never quit.....!
Andy
Nov3-03, 02:24 PM
Well you'll be gald to know that i have, although i am still intrigued.
Monique
Nov3-03, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Where do you get that from??, can you not tell, I have no choice about it! No, I couldn't tell. Some people DO make the choice to live like you have described. I don't know the circumstances by which you were forced, so I am in no position to comment :)
Adrian Baker
Nov3-03, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Humm, didn't start this one for 'others' to be making fun of me for this, if you haven't got something to contribute, please don't bother!!, thanks!
[*(]
Artman
Nov3-03, 03:42 PM
Mr. Robin Parsons, I have followed several of your posts and I find you to be intelligent and well spoken (written). I don't wish to be offensive, but I also sense that you are defensive and perhaps have a case of paranoia.
I agree that in your present condition, you would not be employable. Even though you are obviously intelligent, the question of why you haven't been employed will haunt you.
If you don't mind some constructive criticism, I would recommend you divorce yourself from all thoughts of government (seriously) and see a therapist to talk out your situation (there seem to be some deep rooted problems there). Find yourself some help, such as someone willing to get you some decent clothing, or a place to stay (everyone needs a hand of some sort from time to time).
I don't imagine it is easy. I can only imagine that it would be very hard.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov3-03, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by Artman
Mr. Robin Parsons, I have followed several of your posts and I find you to be intelligent and well spoken (written). I don't wish to be offensive, but I also sense that you are defensive and perhaps have a case of paranoia.
I agree that in your present condition, you would not be employable. Even though you are obviously intelligent, the question of why you haven't been employed will haunt you.
If you don't mind some constructive criticism, I would recommend you divorce yourself from all thoughts of government (seriously) and see a therapist to talk out your situation (there seem to be some deep rooted problems there). Find yourself some help, such as someone willing to get you some decent clothing, or a place to stay (everyone needs a hand of some sort from time to time).
I don't imagine it is easy. I can only imagine that it would be very hard.
WOW you ever off base, that and it is quite clear you don't understand the situation (thats OK!) and are NOT addressing the question posed, why?
P.S. You constructive critism, isn't, you would want for me to "see a therapist", why?? do they need to learn something from me?? cause I can assure you they would NOT be able to help me, a lawyer, perhaps, but definitely NOT a therapist, OYE!
Artman
Nov3-03, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
...and are NOT addressing the question posed, why?
As I understand it, this is the question posed:
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
...Hence my curiosity is expressed herein inasmuch as I would like to know just how simple/complex you think it is, to "start back" out.
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I said " I agree that in your present condition, you would not be employable. Even though you are obviously intelligent, the question of why you haven't been employed will haunt you."
and
"I don't imagine it is easy. I can only imagine that it would be very hard."
I don't really know your situation, all I know is what I can sense from your posts. No offense intended. I could indeed be way off-base.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov3-03, 04:44 PM
Originally posted by Artman
I said " I agree that in your present condition, you would not be employable. Even though you are obviously intelligent, the question of why you haven't been employed will haunt you."
"Not employable" is relative to certain conditions I need to meet for any employer, the "question of why.....haunting me" is a joke, at best.... it is Not at all!
I know quite well, by God's grace, the 'why' and 'who' of my current situation. (most of you don't! OK!)
It is NOT stated anywhere that "I am NOT employable" I asked what do you think I need to go through to re-achieve employment, what does it take, to start out, from the bottom, at 47, with no money, and no home, and little clothing, no food, no help.........
Monique
Nov3-03, 04:57 PM
Very true, without a house, no social security, without a house, no insurance, without a house or insurance, no job. Without money, no house.
Artman
Nov3-03, 05:12 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
"Not employable" is relative to certain conditions I need to meet for any employer, the "question of why.....haunting me" is a joke, at best.... it is Not at all!
I know quite well, by God's grace, the 'why' and 'who' of my current situation. (most of you don't! OK!)
It is NOT stated anywhere that "I am NOT employable" I asked what do you think I need to go through to re-achieve employment, what does it take, to start out, from the bottom, at 47, with no money, and no home, and little clothing, no food, no help.........
You aren't seeing my point. The thing that a 47 year old man needs most to get a job, IS a job. Your lack of employment is haunting your search for employment (not you specifically). Yes I know this is unfair, but most people get their employees by stealing them from their competition.
Employers aren't looking to give someone a break, they are looking for someone to help their business. If you have been employed, making money for someone, can demonstrate that you can make money for your potential employer, and can do the job better than any other candidate, then you have a chance of getting that job.
megashawn
Nov3-03, 05:19 PM
I've tried to keep up with Parson's saga, but everytime I get into it I simply get more confused.
For instance, I do not understand why a person who posseses the knowledge you have cannot find someone to help/support his plans.
I've lived on my own before, without a job and whatnot. I had a car however, fast car, so I didn't worry about insurance. I did odd end jobs, making anywhere from $20-100 a week. It is hard not being able to lay your head down in the same place, or atleast a comfortable bed every night. And if you have been royally screwed by the government as you've described in the past, I can understand not wanting to work for a legit company that requires you to pay taxes to the people who put you in this predicament.
If I was you, I'd head south. I could probably get you a job on a siding crew if you're interested, and know how/can learn. Somehow, I doubt this will interest you much.
Plus, its got to be getting cold this time of year. With said possesions, do you not find it difficult to remain comfortable(temp wize) in the winter?
Nereid
Nov3-03, 06:17 PM
Mr Parsons: I asked what do you think I need to go through to re-achieve employment, what does it take, to start out, from the bottom, at 47, with no money, and no home, and little clothing, no food, no help......... I am ignorant about what social services are available for someone in your situation in Canada, but in other countries with which I have some familiarity, there is a wide range of social support available. This may include:
- central/state/local government assistance for the unemployed, the uninsured, the homeless
- private charity groups, of many different kinds.
If you have access to the internet, finding the names of such institutions, their roles, locations, contact details, etc should be quite easy.
From these compassionate, experienced and professional people you should be able to get good, specific, concrete advice on how to become re-employed, given your background, capabilities, desires, and circumstances.
Becoming re-employed can be looked at as just another problem to be solved - what do you have? what do you want to do? what can you do? what are you prepared to do? Then, on the other side, who is offering employment (of a kind that meets - to some extent - the answers to the earlier questions)? what is your competition like (others who might seek the same work)? what distinctive characteristics do you have that make you more attractive to an employer than your competition? how can you develop some of these quickly and easily? etc. As usual in problem solving apply Pareto (aka the 80/20 rule).
Monique
Nov3-03, 06:27 PM
I am not sure about your situation, things would be greatly simplified with friends/family/aqueantances (sp?) giving you an address. Without an address you are nobody. How is one supposed to get social support without having an address for them to send it to?
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov4-03, 10:42 AM
Originally posted by Artman
You aren't seeing my point. The thing that a 47 year old man needs most to get a job, IS a job. Your lack of employment is haunting your search for employment (not you specifically). Yes I know this is unfair, but most people get their employees by stealing them from their competition.
Employers aren't looking to give someone a break, they are looking for someone to help their business. If you have been employed, making money for someone, can demonstrate that you can make money for your potential employer, and can do the job better than any other candidate, then you have a chance of getting that job.
My apologies for my abruptness, you do have a very clear point inasmuch as what you express is what most potential emloyers would see in me, little if anything, and that is probably the most common perception. (even if wrong!)
But that is a part of it, if I cannot prove, adequately, that I have done what I have tried to 'prove' I have done, then how can I prove to anyone that I have the ability to generate value.....it is the absence of "Laurels" (Public accreditations) in my life that is what is the problem.
But this digresses into social studies, the original question is what does it take to get back out from this starting point? Getting a Job is a small part of that, if you think otherwise, you are mistaken.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov4-03, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by Nereid
I am ignorant about what social services are available for someone in your situation in Canada, but in other countries with which I have some familiarity, there is a wide range of social support available. This may include:
- central/state/local government assistance for the unemployed, the uninsured, the homeless
- private charity groups, of many different kinds.
If you have access to the internet, finding the names of such institutions, their roles, locations, contact details, etc should be quite easy.
From these compassionate, experienced and professional people you should be able to get good, specific, concrete advice on how to become re-employed, given your background, capabilities, desires, and circumstances.
Becoming re-employed can be looked at as just another problem to be solved - what do you have? what do you want to do? what can you do? what are you prepared to do? Then, on the other side, who is offering employment (of a kind that meets - to some extent - the answers to the earlier questions)? what is your competition like (others who might seek the same work)? what distinctive characteristics do you have that make you more attractive to an employer than your competition? how can you develop some of these quickly and easily? etc. As usual in problem solving apply Pareto (aka the 80/20 rule).
This can be addressed, but I have to go for my meal now, soup Kitchens dictate my agenda for the day, so........
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov4-03, 01:35 PM
So what we have are two options, one is to go on welfare, the other get a job.
Getting a job entails the needs of washing myself, my clothing, (of which, I haven't the right kinds, or amounts, for either, office, or labor work, labor requiring special things like "steel toed boots", something like a waiter requires black shoes, minimal stuff, + etc.) getting to, and from work, (without developing a sweat as cycling does cause to arise) and the most important of all of the needs, where the heck do I now eat, because, the scheduling of the soup kitchens is arranged as to attempt to ensure that working people are NOT taking advantage (misusing) of them.
At best, it is a two week wait till the first cheque, at that point I now have the earnings of a maximum one weeks time, first and last months rent is required as deposit in Kingston so I do NOT have enough to acquire housing, even if I can get ten or twelve bucks an hour (snicker snicker, not likely to happen as they know I want to leave the country so they will attempt to ensure that I get as little as possible for wages.....don't believe that, it is the "Why" I have gotten no accreditation/(public)Laurels) the most I would have after forty hours of work @ $12.00 is $480.00 less taxes, ~ 30% so about $350.00 clear/net (Yes I know it isn't exactly 30%, don't care, either, as it is close enough for what we need to see!) and I have needed to feed myself, clothe myself, and wash, without facilities for any of that.
And I now need to go through, how many more weeks? before I can accumulate enough money to be able to pay "first and last" on an apartment, which, here in Kingston, the Average rent is about $525.00/mo..................
There is lots more I could tell you but, I suspect you might be able to figure it out for yourselves.
Option one "go on Welfare" (state assistance) been there, went like this, after giving them enough personal information to have satisfied the Stazi, they agree to give you monthly support of $520.00 per month, of that $325.00 goes to your rent so you will not be given that money unless you have already acquired a rental, have a signed lease. So they will give you the remaining $195.00/mo as that is the sum total of monies that they estimate it takes to live for a month.During that time you MUST do minimum of 30 hrs. per week of job searching, again filling out paperwork as to prove you have done enough paperwork to satisfy the Stazi, using the $195.00 for whatever you need like food, bus fare, and everything/anything else.
My receipt of welfare lasted all of two and a half months as during the third month my worker told me (on the phone) that if I didn't get an apartment by the end of the month I was to be cut off, (That's illegal BTW, but done on the phone, I didn't have my handy tape recorder on me for that one, so no ability to "prove it" legally) me, I simply didn't even bother handing in the paperwork for that month and accepted the loss of the clearly ensnaring system that Welfare seems to present.
So, any suggestions? Questions?
Monique
Nov4-03, 02:11 PM
Become a street artist, no taxes involved :) Not sure what kind of talents you have, you could try setting up philosophy sessions or something at a local market.. there was one famous philosopher that actually did that.. *thinking* ..Socrates! You are a free man, you should be able to read up at local libraries.
In Amsterdam we actually have quite a lot of street artists, some need the money, others hold respectable jobs and probably earn lots of money. They just like to express themselves and brighten someones day.
There is this one guy who I really like, he seems to be standing there every few days.. a business man, in a suit, running, his tie is waving behind his back by the aircurrent of his speed, he is pointing out his hand as though to grab someones attention, maybe to hold the tram for him. The only thing, he stands there like a statue. Perfectly still, vivid expression on his face, no blinking, atachè case in his hand, tie waving suspended in the air behind his back, in the middle of the busiest tourist street of Amsterdam, outside of the central trainstation that leads to the major shopping streets, thousand of people passing him by, trying to get somewhere, while he, he just stands there.
Artman
Nov4-03, 03:11 PM
Along the lines that Monique just said, have you thought about writing a book about your experiences? I've read several of your posts. You can write, and your experiences on the street could make for interesting reading.
J.K. Rowling, the woman who wrote "Harry Potter" was divorced and living on public assistance when she outlined the entire H.P. series.
I know that her story is the exception, not the rule, but writing would be a productive use of your time until some other avenue opens for you.
Monique
Nov4-03, 03:25 PM
And you DO know the earnings of Stephen King.. [o)]
I think it is an excellent idea, the same as Socrates on the marketplace, only a tat more modern.. I wonder how many markets there are in Canada anyway?
Monique
Nov4-03, 03:29 PM
I think you just sold your first few books [:D]
[t)] <- me! artman -> [:))]
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov5-03, 10:29 AM
Artman, Monique Thanks for the support, I already wrote a "book" years back. That's another story altogether.
Humm, why not just try this as an "exercize in understanding" as opposed to actually finding me, personally, solutions. The understanding being what people have to go through sometimes, through no fault of there own.
Oh Yes, just to keep one part perfectly clear, I mention the Supreme Court of Canada, the Justices thereof were/are the only ones who had/have treated me with the respect of acknowledgment, so to be sure there is no "Derrogation of Repution" towards the Court, there is NONE intended, un-intended, meant, implied, tacit, or to be assumed, as it simply isn't there! They remain to me, as they started out with me, Faultless Thanks!
Artman
Nov5-03, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Humm, why not just try this as an "exercize in understanding" as opposed to actually finding me, personally, solutions. The understanding being what people have to go through sometimes, through no fault of there own.
Understood.
(But it still sounds like your life would make for interesting reading. [t)] Very intriquing little snips coming through in your posts.)
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov5-03, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by Artman
(SNIP) (But it still sounds like your life would make for interesting reading. [t)] Very intriquing little snips coming through in your posts.) (SNoP)
AHHHHhhhhh, if you only knew........... [o)] [a)] [:)]
There is so much I 'cannot tell', (At least not yet) and there is so much (more) I can, YEOW a ToE too!
Andy
Nov5-03, 01:58 PM
What was this thread about anyway?
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov6-03, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by Andy
What was this thread about anyway?
Hummm, I suspect (but it is only a suspicion) that if you look at the t-i-t-l-e or read the "initial posting", you should be able to figure it out for yourself! [6)] [a)] [o)]
Andy
Nov6-03, 01:39 PM
Lol
Monique
Nov6-03, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Humm, why not just try this as an "exercize in understanding" as opposed to actually finding me, personally, solutions. The understanding being what people have to go through sometimes, through no fault of there own. I can understand, I've seen children wrongfully being taken away from parents by the government and locked up in institutions, so called 'child protection'. Even the best lawyer won't be able to argue against such institutions.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov6-03, 03:11 PM
So, apparently some people don't get this writing, it is about starting back up from the bottom of the ladder, at 47 years of age, with nothing to assist to that end.
When This arose in Calgary, for the first time in my life, it worked out simply, inasmuch as the organization in Calgary was well set up to deal with homeless people, and how to re-establish them in society, if they wanted that.
This means that, firstly, the immediate needs (Services) were met, inasmuch as they gave us a place to sleep, a place to eat, there were laundry machines that you could use (free) for washing your clothes, and there were shower facilities for washing yourself.
I was bussed to a warehouse, every evening, (my choice) to sleep on a mat, in that warehouse, with ~200 other people. You needed to supply your own bed linens, I had a sleeping bag, so it was simple enough for me.
Next was work, they had a "Work Office" at the Downtown drop in centre (where I ate) that ran by lottery (pick a number to await any possibility of incoming work, I got # 1 on my first try) so you could be on a list for work, if available. Calgary was booming a bit while I was there so they had lots of work, and I was sent out first day, to be paid daily (supposedly) by my employer. They, the downtown drop in centre, would also assist with little things like sandwiches for your lunch if they had the extra food available.
Within eleven (11) days I had enough money to acquire a room in a rooming house. The person I worked for was helpful, in little ways, but it was even then clear enough, it was in his own self interest that he acted.
This is a short explanation of how I started back out again in Calgary, and it belies several realities of the experience, the obviousness of the fact of the feelings of Violence, and Fear, that permeated the Drop in Centre, palpable feelings.
Calgary is a city of 800,000 + people with a reported (at that time) homeless population of roughly 4000 or about 0.5% (that is a "disgustingly stated" Good figure, good as it is only 0.5%, disgusting if you are one of those 0.5%) and has established the requisite services to deal with the people who are the homeless.
Here in Kingston the situation is somewhat different, as the base population size is smaller, the number of homeless is smaller, and there are more people dealing with "low incomes" as problem, then the problems that I got to see in Calgary.
Here there is no permanent shelter to live in, a winter one opens up on Nov 17 to allow us to get "In from the Cold" and that will permit me to stay there from 8 pm to 8 am, showers and laundry facilities are available there, and sometime even food!
There are two other shelter options, but both of them permit only a five night stay (without justification) and they require "sixty clear days" passage before they will let you back in, again.
There is so much more, WOW!
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov7-03, 05:35 PM
It was easier in Calgary to secure lodgings as the amount of money that I needed was ~ $150.00 as that would pay the rent on a room, for two weeks, which was what the owner wanted to start out.
Here in Kingston with a housing rental market that has a < 1% vacancy rate, finding a place is a bit more of a challenge.
While trying on Welfare I had to use the "Intent to Rent form" provided by welfare, and that its the 'whistle word' for the landlords telling them that you are a recipient of welfare, hence all of what they have learned over the years about welfare tenants kicks in. Some said things like, "Well, we'll want a $200.00 dollar deposit to fill out those forms" (They know you only get $195.00) others you can hear the change in attitude, over the phone, when you use say you have the "Intent to rent.." and many other things like that.
But it is not totally against the landlords that they behave in the ways that they do. Having been one myself who has had to clean rooms, after people have left, having heard about some of the ones around here, the mountains of garbage left, and the needles, makes cleaning it a "Bio hazard", so how could you fault the "Once (perhaps more) burned"?
And it isn't as if the Sensation of 'violence and fear' that I felt in the Calgary center, is the faulting of anyone, other then the very nature, and structure, of sociality, as many of the people who end up needing to use these type of services, are people who have just been released from prisions.
If you buy that line about how you will "do your time and pay for your crime", WOW, it ain't like that, you come out of prison, if you don't have assistance, you is gonna wait till it gets there, with no money, no place to live, no food, assistance, nothing if you cannot figure it out really fast, and society is stacked against you.
No, I have never been in prison, but I have spent a fair bit of time in the presence of many a person who has, and gotten to see, and somewhat feel, what society does towards these people when they get out...it isn't pretty, and they are really, generally, (if they don't either get or find the assistance they need) pushed back towards the only thing that ever worked for them, life of crime, and the Circuit of imprisoning. (heard that it's best to get a winter sentance)
Very educational experiances these, and more, any questions? answers?
Monique
Nov7-03, 06:38 PM
One time, about two years ago I saw a documentary at the Detroit Institute of Arts, Film Theater.
It was about homeless people in New York living in the underground subway system, there was one guy filming the whole thing. I think he actually had the habit of becoming 'homeless' once in a while to appreciate the things he had going for him.
Anyway, so he knew the places where homeless people hang out so he decided to make a film about it.
I was amazed by the people living there, there was one guy who had lost his family and his house in a fire.. without money he ended up on the street. Throughout the documentary this was not told, you got to know the person, very cheerfull and mischievous in a good way, resourcefull, he made his own house from scrap down in abandoned subway tunnels, where he complained about people stealing his 'posessions', merely makeshift objects. Finally when he start telling the story of how he became homeless (reluctantly) a world opened up: homeless people needn't be criminals and anyone can easily end up the same way. I believe this guy actually had a good job and lost it after a depression due to the fire.
The issue also came up that people would commit petty theft and make sure they were caught before winter started, a small crime with a sentence long enough to last the winter. But this one guy was released early, since the law inforcement knew the purposs of the crime..
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov8-03, 11:02 AM
That's a bit like one of the people I met in Calgary, good card player, good math mind, couldn't get past binge drinking though. Had had an appartement, but lost it when he lost his job from a bout of 'the drink', same cycle, repeat till, well, he may still be doing it I don't know.........didn't really seem to have the coping skills needed to 'keep enough together' as to be able to handle the complexities of modern life.
Nereid
Nov20-03, 11:55 PM
So how are you doing now, Mr Parsons? What are your goals for the next few days/weeks/until the end of winter?
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov21-03, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by Nereid
So how are you doing now, Mr Parsons? What are your goals for the next few days/weeks/until the end of winter?
I'm surviving, thank you, and that would be my 'goal', as well, survival. (no, Not Sarcastically, truly.....)
That basically entails the continuance of my "daily agenda" being established by the soup kithcen's schedules, some time at PF as access permits.....(this is a rock bottom production rate, 1543 posts since end of March, for me...sorta.....) and well, sleeping(?) perhaps, library napping sessions, who knowS??
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov24-03, 12:03 PM
Just FYI, since I started "Camping" here in Kingston, I've been here for 25 months, take off ~5 for time in shelters and you get ~20 months, at a rate of ten miles a day, (five in/five out) thirty days a month (avg), equals about 6000 miles of riding, I have biked the equivalent of across the Country of Canada, just riding into Kingston, and back out, each day.
Since I started on PF 3.0, in late March, I have biked ~1500 miles, the last time I did that I arrived in Carman Manitoba, this time I can't seem to get anywhere, ([6)]) other then Kingston, ([6)]) sorta like "Ground Hog Day" the movie, without the woman, the money and the food, just the every morning/day like every other morning/day.....sorta...
As for the rest, well it is by the Grace of God, and of the Head of State of Canada, that the work was as employable, in the world, that it apparently was/has served.
That the representation of the Peoples of Canada deems it that they do NOT reply, never correspond, hide in the wells of dark willful ignorace, little I can do about that.........apparently(?).. but you can get to know them for what they truly are, by this example of them!
(The Canadian Government, representative of the Canadian Peoples)
russ_watters
Nov24-03, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
You constructive critism, isn't, you would want for me to "see a therapist", why?? do they need to learn something from me?? cause I can assure you they would NOT be able to help me, a lawyer, perhaps, but definitely NOT a therapist, OYE! I haven't posted in this thread before and I will freely admit to not understanding your predicament, HOWEVER, I believe I understand what Artman was saying and can expand:
The way I see it you have two choices - they are the same choices everyone has regarding some bad thing happening in their past:
1. Try to correct it or otherwise deal with it.
2. Let it go and take a different path.
Choice 1 in your case apparently requires a lawyer. Choice 2 you may be able to do on your own, but if not, a therapist (or a friend you can talk to) might be able to help.
Everyone has been in this kind of situation, though obviously the magnitude varies (including me - I've moved on from mine but it still haunts me). The choice is always about the same. I realize however that that doesn't make the choice easy, nor does it make the right answer always the same (or mean there always is a right answer). Given your current situation though, I would speculate that there is a better path than the one you are taking now.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov24-03, 02:54 PM
choice #1 is (sorta/maybe) being worked upon.....
choice #2 been there, done that?
"Letting it go" sorta isn't an option, not in my lifetime, if it isn't somehow resolved.
Currently, I am aware that I have choices, but not really, as all of the choices are limited, having that particular situation resolved opens up all of the choices, so much more, that it is (would be) patently stupid to attempt to proceed without it!
All I seem to be facing is an irresponcible Prime Minster who is unwilling to make "The Expression of Gratitude of the Peoples of Canada" that he is required to make, on behalf of the Citizens of the Country. His current representation of them (The Peoples of Canada) is as a bunch of un-gratefull, in-gracious, egocentric, selfish, Obnoxiously-Arrogant-Snobs, something that, (although I am rather certain that there would be one or two in the entire country) IS NOT a TRUE representation of the people of this country, probably more just of himself (his Ego!) as he has been pinned in the press as notorious for making his junior party memebers (Junior Ministers) wait upon/for him.
He (the PM of canada) make decisions, and agree's to give them what they want/need for their riding, and then, apparently, loves to make them wait, needlessly(?), and ignorantly(?), just to press his power upon them.
Some kinda guy, probably comes up with the "Well I did it, didn't I" at the end, as to make certain you cannot say anything about him not acting, cause "he did it" in the end, right??
(doesn't care about anyones else's time, only his is important)
That was in one of the articles that I had read about this person's "Leadership style". He's retiring, well, no one seems to know just when, and he loves to do that too!
If you figure it out well, In the amount of Money that apparently was saved by the Canadian taxpayer, (by the GIFT of writing I made to/through this country) ~$40 million, I PAID for this Person's (The Prime Minster of Canada) ENTIRE 40 YEAR SERVICE CAREER, (plus retirement, PLUS CHANGE LEFT OVER, LOTS!!!!) and as his JOB, as Prime Minster, wherein He is required, BY LAW, to make the "Representations of the Gratitude's of the Poeples of Canada" as they cannot make it themselves, nor do they ("the people" aside/outside from/of the court, and the government) even know about it, as they (The Government) will not even so little as admit to it......
This, to me, is a disgusting Man!
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov26-03, 12:28 PM
There is also the simplicty that this man was the Minister of Justice in Canada (in his fourty {40} year political history) and that his party, the Liberal Party of Canada, has (apparently) attempted this kind of legislation (restricting pedophilic artworks) before, it failed, as the problem of "Works of the Imagination" had been, unbeknownst to me, a real pernicious problem on the face of the planet in the legal speaking communities that use the English language.
Consider simply that this guy is a lawyer, and maybe he is simply ashamed/jealous/envious of the fact that he was 'Bested' by moi. (it was God's Grace that allowed me that, NOT my Ego!)
There is also the manner of history inasmuch as the government was following a pathway that many governments follow, pass the law, and then hope (and wait) till someone tries to get it changed by a challenge through the Courts. This allows the law to "stand" for as long as it takes, for citizens who care, to amass the money to go fight it, psuedo law sorta, and once it is overturned, in a legal challenge, they simply rewrite it, in another wording, to try that pathway again, cycle, re-cycle, re-re-cycle..........
PrudensOptimus
Nov26-03, 12:34 PM
Can someone translate the first post please?
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov27-03, 01:34 PM
So, my stating the above, "bested by Moi" is NOT a manner that I, personally, think in, cause to me to state something like that, is arrogant because it is patently false!
Yes, I, By the Grace of God, did come up with a solution to a perniscious International legal problem respecting the "Rights of the General Public V Pedophiles" and am the 'first' one to do that.
But clearly I had/have advantages, in my ignorance of the law inasmuch as I, being outside of the field, was NOT subjected to the intimidational forces of the "Water Cooler" talk amongst lawyers, people in the legal system, that would be making very clear the extent of "other" law that such a definition would need cover, without changing any of it! a very humbling and Intimidating concept, to be sure.
Never mind the Simplicity that this man is a trained Lawyer, not a chance I could best him at the Law, not in any kind of real contest (lest it be a court case and (provable) truth is on my side) of legal Knolwedge, he'd whomp my Butt.
So, this changes little for what this thread started out to be, sorta, but it is a venue of speech, Free speech, soooo......
The solution itself is simply a "Proof", in a manner of speaking, even though, normally, a Court cannot accept the unsubstantiated testimony of one individual as a proof, ordinarily, this circumstance is, and was, different, as the work itself, when read, reveals somthing of the inside of yourself, how an "assemblage of your understanding", (words) fits together, and when sequenced out properly, illustrate the function of the flowthrough of information in a human's "Realm of the imagination", thus rendering that expression "Works of the Imagination" as a 'self description'.
This is (some) of how I got.......here???
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov27-03, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by PrudensOptimus
Can someone translate the first post please?
Why? don't you understand English? would it have been better if I had put it in French for you?
Zantra
Nov27-03, 03:04 PM
OK now I'm curious as to what exactly you used to do. I've been around since before march, and I haven't a clue what your story is(granted I have periods of time where I wasn't reading here). So mayhap you could englighten us with your story so we could better know, and perhaps even offer some semmblence of informed advice?
Based on what you've said you were not a lawyer, but some kind of advocacy group activist? You seem to be intimately familiar with the legislation in Canada, so I'm definitely intrigued.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov27-03, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Zantra
(SNIP) Based on what you've said you were not a lawyer, but some kind of advocacy group activist? You seem to be intimately familiar with the legislation in Canada, so I'm definitely intrigued. (SNoP)
Some of that gets more personal then I want to get here, but no, no advocacy group, simply one individual, me.
A friend, I had just recently met, in Calgary, challenged me one day, sorta telling me; "If you think your so smart solve this one", and then proceeded to explain the John Robin Sharpe case and how Sharpe lawyer was attempting to obtain the legal right to produce pedophilic pictures (artworks/drawings) from under the "Charter of Rights" (and Freedoms) here in Canada.
His thrust was using an expression "Works of the Imagination", and he (the lawyer) contended that the legal system was acting like the "Mind Police" in policing the (artistic) "Works of the Imagination" that Mr. Shapre had produced. He also conteded that Mr. Sharpe had the legal right to produce such works, and was attempting to get the Courts to agree to that, as to protect Mr. Sharpes rights under "Freedom of Expression", thus showing that the law, in that case, was unjust, and needed to be struck down/invalidated.
Because of the rights of the present owner of the copyrights, I cannot reproduce what I wrote, sorta anywhere, ('cept in the defence of my reputation!) so I cannot show you how that Issue, (works of the Imagination) central to that case, was removed completely by what I wrote.
Does that help?
chroot
Nov27-03, 03:49 PM
So you're a pedophile?
- Warren
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov27-03, 03:56 PM
Originally posted by chroot
So you're a pedophile?
- Warren
Ha ha hahahahahahahahahahaha
Not a Chance! God's Grace, I am the guy who helped in stopping it!
Actually, Artist! as it is/was my knowledge of artwork that assisted in my explaining "Imaginations" functioning, flowthrough of 'words and pictures'.
chroot
Nov27-03, 03:57 PM
So what is the point of this thread, if you won't even tell us what "happened to you?"
- Warren
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov27-03, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by chroot
So what is the point of this thread, if you won't even tell us what "happened to you?"
- Warren
I have told what happened to me, NOTHING, (Government has never responded!) that is what I protest, but that is followed by the simple reality of employment, and the consequential details of all of that, and as I put it in the beginning of this thread, someone seemed to think that all I needed to do was to get a job, doing just that isn't anywheres near as simple as they seem to think, that was what I had wanted to help them to realize, it ain't so easy to get back up from some places............along those lines
chroot
Nov27-03, 04:17 PM
So you had some bright idea about pedophiles, and the government didn't respond. And? Somehow this led to you living in a tent?
- Warren
PrudensOptimus
Nov27-03, 10:49 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Why? don't you understand English? would it have been better if I had put it in French for you?
OK, type your first post in French, and I'll let Babelfish to translate it into English.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Nov28-03, 11:38 AM
Originally posted by PrudensOptimus
OK, type your first post in French, and I'll let Babelfish to translate it into English.
As I had suspected, your request was redundant, you already have the services of a translator, (well suited to you, I would Imagine) "Babelfish" you call them, isn't it?
Salute! (French, means BYE!)(....sorta)
Mr. Robin Parsons
Dec1-03, 07:52 PM
So, the Employment part/aspect, how the heck could I ever get a Job, as something like, "a writer" perhaps(?) if everything, and anything, that I write, NEVER-EVER sees the Light of Recognition public OR private?
Humm.....
As for the Prime Minster 'Whomping my Butt' at law, Humm, well he is 69 years old, been a Politician for Fourty (40) years, I am 48* so I was Eight years old (8)* when this guy started out his career in the 'crafting', and 'enacting', and 'adminstrating' of the "Living Tree of the Law", so when it comes to 'Legal knowledge", if he can't "Whomp my Butt" somethings wrong!
It has been here, at PF, that I got my first "Public Accreditation" actually, the 'Humor Award' that I got.....
I've mentioned the distances that I bicycle before, and there is some discrepancy 'tween the last time, and this time. Simple, sorta, my inability to accertain to any more accurate degree that actual distance, short of counting the rotations of the Crank, and ensuring pedalling pressure all the way.....the pedal pressure part I have had to do, (insert small statement about air/wind resistence.....Ignore it??? WHAT???) as when pedalling "Into the wind" all of the force that you apply to forward motion is immediatly applied in a counteracting measure of wind resistence. (A ten Kph cycle speed, into a ten Kph wind, gives you the equivalant of riding into a twenty kph wind, faster you push forward, more you increase the resistence)
Ahhhh yes, the "I can't tell you that/those part(s)", Humm, lived with other people in my life, and have a requirement of respecting their privacy rights, not to publish a "one sided story" on the internet, even if, By the Grace of God, I can do Justice to their side of it, it just isn't fair without there prior consent.....soooo
But I can tell you things like this, see, when you do something like this, (The Sharpe Case thing) are ignored by the responcible party in Government, then attempt to seek the attention of 'Said' Government, you need to tell people what you have done in order to be able to go about it, in doing that, some of those people will believe you, (as the truth is convincing) and some of them, in believing, will attempt to turn you into their prey......soooo, when you get to that point, in your own life, you will know what I mean, if Not, Praise God!
*Edit 47 years old, see 'end' (not for long) post for answer!(?)
Mr. Robin Parsons
Dec1-03, 07:58 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Actually, Artist! as it is/was my knowledge of artwork that assisted in my explaining "Imaginations" functioning, flowthrough of 'words and pictures'.
Actually, it is more like Artist/writing/science.....or an Artistic person, who writes his thoughts down, (better @ talking) and thinks in a "Scientific Manner" seeking Accurate Knowledge through Judiscious Observation of Reality(ies), and reporting on it, that's the 'un-accredited' writer part......Hummmm, makes me wonder, sometimes........??!!??
Mr. Robin Parsons
Dec1-03, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by chroot
So you had some bright idea about pedophiles, and the government didn't respond. And? Somehow this led to you living in a tent?
- Warren
Yes I helped in a Constitutional challenge that went through the Supreme Court of Canada concerning a Pedophile seeking to gain "legal right", assisting to stop that by offering Proof (sort of) that "Works of the Imagination" was, well, "self descriptive", (in the end) as a legal defence.
Some of the rest I cannot (can, should NOT!) tell, see the posting above as to why.
wasteofo2
Dec2-03, 12:50 AM
*ignore this post*
Mr. Robin Parsons
Dec2-03, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by wasteofo2
*ignore this post* WHY?
Mr. Robin Parsons
Dec2-03, 03:06 PM
I actually wrote this for 'somewhere's else', as posting, but can use it here just the same with minor alterations that you will never know about (*Insert Evil laugh*here*....just kidding) so that the points of it are still relevant, hopefully.
Loren Booda had a Thread (http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=9135) asking if anyone in the forums had ever done something 'noteworthy' sort of, thing/type, I had watched it, to see if anyone said anything, nothing.... Hummmm.............
Just in case you aren't quite to certain what a "Previously Unrecognized, Self evident Truth" look(s/ed) like, there is a thread in "Astro and Cosmo" (http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=846&highlight=proof+and+cause+and+gravity)* that was titled "The Proof of the Cause of Gravity" (Caps? the "the"....Idaknow!) in which, after taking a 'Newton' (or two) over the head, we finally arrived at their understanding of Gravitie's activities, within the planet, thus we came to my explaining, to them, the measure of mechanical pressure, and the manner of numerical explaination (R=5, R=2) that resolved the reality such that it was clear enough that their method of 'perception' was in-operable as to create the known, and proven, pressurization, and that was (had been) the question that needing explanation.
Basically the current theory says that gravity lessons towards the center, the R=5 R=2 explaination 'demonstrates' how that cannot give rise to the already observed/know pressurization of the core....
That fact of 'mechanical pressure' that I used, is "Currently Known Knowledge", just that it seems that I was the first to point it out...in this application, Previously Unrecognized/Self Evident Truth
There are some others in there, from Myself, God's Grace! you see, not a function of ego.......self.
So this is/was something that goes against currently recognized convention, (Current theory) is provable, (and proves "current theory" must be wrong!) but is ignored as per reactions from people.
It is along the lines of "instructions to a game" that had been played upon me, wherein everone is instructed to act as if "they had known it all along", as to not look stupid, (in front of me) and to make certain that I didn't think to highly of myself as to become 'egotistical/egocentric' about my knowledge.
Kinda 'dumb/idiotic' Game to play inasmuch as I had remarked to people that getting to this level of abiltiy requires that you admit to what you "don't know" similarily to admitting to "what you do", from that point of perspective you can more easily know whether (or not) the knowledge you diseminate (at that time) is Currently "known knowledge" (or not) such that, you simply end up with people, openly, (and known to me) lieing to my face.
It can be fun playing with an open faced liar....especially whn it is provable that they have just lied....
Ain't life fun!?
BTW, I had even included a Hint at more in the signature that I had used at that time....this one;
Originally formulated by Moi
¤Spark le and ¯Shine!!
Anyone (ShhhGreg) got a guess at just what that really means.....Huh?
*If you want only what you "need to read" (Sorta) Start Introduced Here (http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=846&perpage=12&highlight=proof%20and%20cause%20and%20gravity&pagenumber=23) or directly to the point Here (http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=846&perpage=12&highlight=proof%20and%20cause%20and%20gravity&pagenumber=27) (sixth post down, cause your at page 28 now!)
Mr. Robin Parsons
Dec2-03, 10:19 PM
Originally posted 12/01 by Moi
As for the Prime Minster 'Whomping my Butt' at law, Humm, well he is 69 years old, been a Politician for Fourty (40) years, I am 48* so I was Eight years old (8)* when this guy started out his career in the 'crafting', and 'enacting', and 'adminstrating' of the "Living Tree of the Law", so when it comes to 'Legal knowledge", if he can't "Whomp my Butt" somethings wrong! (Sans SNIP/SNoP as I cite myself...)
* Wrote this Monday, had biked 'out and back' to the tent, twice, on Friday, missed the only meal on Saturday, cause of Friday's rain, Sat's snow, then Ate Sunday evening, (first that day) biked 'in and out', then biked in Monday (tired, walked a little) and had noticed late Monday that I had experianced some "Head Rushes" from in-adequate dietary intake...not enough food, affects the brains workings, so I slipped at the age thing, then again, generally, my mind tends to start thinking of my approaching age change well before it happens.
(as to acclimatize myself to the change?)
Mr. Robin Parsons
Dec16-03, 09:31 AM
So lets see, recent history, Biking in the snow and the rain, of recent, driving blizzard the other day and I had to go back to the tent to get the "laundry" off of the line, ("laundry" here means wet blankets) as the field had had opportunity to freeze, (the ground froze) after we had had some rain, so the rain that fell after the 'freezing' couldn't penetrate the saturated 'frozen' ground, and resulted in a slight flooding of my tent, wetting the 'bedroll' that I keep there.
It got colder again so everything froze, (the wet blankets) but the wind , with the stuff out on the line, will subliminate the ice out of the blanket ("freeze drying") and I will eventually get back to drier apparatus and the aditional bonus of the possibility that the freeze drying of the 'items' might result in a lower, (or a ridance{?}) of the mold that has been a plague to the air in the tent, for some time now.
I'll tell again, as I have said it before, it you don't think that air resistence counts? ride a bicycle! Want some really good exercise (that stimulates circulation!) as to enhance cranial perfomance? Ride a bicycle....in the snowbank! InTo the Wind!
YAAAAAAAAHWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWHO!!
Gotta go back out there again, sorta daily ritual of riding a bike (as long as it holds up, in winter's abusive 'clime) as I haven't gotten anything really dry yet. The forecast for the Kingston area includes a rising temperature that is coming with rain, so I "bagged" all of the stuff in the tent, sorta in plastic, and hope that, if it floods, again, that the frozen blanket (that I cracked in two to get into the bag, yesterday) doesn't get even futher wet.
Least I don't need to ride in the snowbank, the sides of the roads are cleared now, (takes a day) and aside from that I have "shelter time" so inside, in a bed, breathing warm air (like everyone else) while I sleep....in a room with 'X' other people....
Mr. Robin Parsons
Dec20-03, 12:02 PM
Well, been out, (and back) 'couple' more times, frozen Blanket in a bag becomes wet blanket in a plastic bag, noting that the humidity in the tent now seems less then outside (cause it's raining outside) and the humidity that develops on the inside of the tents sides is still "wetting my back".
Forecasts are sorta 'cold' now, 'warming', but 'raining...coming', so no chance to dry out anything, and no real opportunity to get it to a washing machine, least not yet.....(Uggh the smell!)
Gotta go, (back out too) make sure it doesn't collapse under the weight of any snow that falls, cause it will.....
Monique
Dec20-03, 12:29 PM
You are still staying in that tent.. aren't there shelters where you could go to? Hang in there..
Mr. Robin Parsons
Dec21-03, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by Monique
You are still staying in that tent.. aren't there shelters where you could go to? Hang in there..
Thanks for the concern, but I am in a shelter at present.
(Mentioned that, above...)*
The reason for the tent report is because that is where I need return sooner or later, that and all of my clothing (what little I have left is there) so it is getting "aromatisized" (self generating at this point) and 'whatever else' occurs in all of the shifting temperatures, (soon to occur, again) and today I need to go back out (maybe) to remove the snow that is falling....ever live in a shelter with X + other people?? Not exactly the "social situation" that I had been, from my life's history, accustomed to...nevermind the one(s) who would wish to use this opportunity to 'force' themselves upon me as "My friend(s)"....how do you tell people that you do NOT want to talk, without talking?
EDIT *Ooops! thought I had mentioned it before, guess not...sorry
Mr. Robin Parsons
Dec29-03, 04:36 PM
Just came in from walking around, found out today (as I haven't been keeping up with the schedule changes) that there is NO food today, nor tomorrow, and probably not for the day after that too, but I don't know that far ahead just yet.
The early (AM) meal only returns on the 5 of Jan, the other place, I haven't a clue what has happened there...Hummm this oughtabe fun!
P.S. (Don't worry...it really doesn't help...worrieing, that is) I'll know better tomorrow, I guess(?)!*%
Mr. Robin Parsons
Dec30-03, 09:39 AM
Ahhh got food at the shelter, and cereal this morning, so it ain't so bad..so far...
Wanted to tell it yesterday, Happy New Years, but two sorta problems, one is that if I celebrate all of the festivals/rituals/religous ceremonial events that are available in a year, well, it is every day, all of the time, the other was the timing of it in conjunction with telling you I wasn't finding food.
I had wanted to tell you it yesterday cause I wanted you to realize that in my character I could still do that, even in light of that kind of news, in my own life, cause that kind of news isn't really all that bad it's is still not a death sentence, plus respecting everyone else's right to still enjoy their own lives, is kinda nicer, I think/thought....just had wondered if I cuold have pulled out the emotive in type, looked inside and found it, just didn't try typing it out cause of the other restraints upon me, presently.
Yikes [o)] is this looong.......not "Instant Messaging" now is it..."Sup?"/
Mr. Robin Parsons
Jan24-04, 07:30 AM
Originally posted by Artman
Along the lines that Monique just said, have you thought about writing a book about your experiences? I've read several of your posts. You can write, and your experiences on the street could make for interesting reading.
J.K. Rowling, the woman who wrote "Harry Potter" was divorced and living on public assistance when she outlined the entire H.P. series.
I know that her story is the exception, not the rule, but writing would be a productive use of your time until some other avenue opens for you. Sorry for the looooong wait for a responce (musta missed this one) but have done that already, back in 1991 and that is what precipitated some of the problems that ensuied...
But what I had recently noticed (in Canadian News) was the police Raid on a reporters home, and all of the newspeople, up in arms about "their Rights", how their right to report on the things that the government does, that are wrong, and how they and there sources are to be protected....Weeeehoo is this a reek of double duplicity if I ever had to tolerate a maloderous aroma, the stench of "We protect you, so protect us" just arises from the kinds of discourse that comes out of events like this, and all the while I get to remember the Person on the Phone whom, after I had explained a little of just what it was that I had accomplished, asked me "Oh and whats newsworthy about that?" ahhh how I would like to send in the Swat team to raid that idiots brain (not really) see if there is anything there other then the ongoing Conspiracy of Canadian society to further my imprisonment and my deprivation of accreditation by willful Ignorance....and they wonder why I end up in the place where I want to tell people how much is SUCKS to live in this country...(The {Imagined/heard} retort: Oh no! you can't say that! just look at all you get, you get to eat and you get to stay in shelters and stay warm, why aren't you grateful?)
BTW that is what had been going on in my life, a form of 'Identity theft', and it is now in the hands of the "Representatives of The poeples of Canada", and they do......? (Nothing!)
It's been in their Hands before, offical, legal complaint,...politic'd
Evo
Jan24-04, 09:35 PM
Mr Robin Parsons, can you fill me in on the missing information prior to the first post on this thread?
You really are an enigma...
Mr. Robin Parsons
Jan25-04, 06:21 AM
You mean the 43 years prior?
Andy
Jan25-04, 06:50 AM
You really shouldnt get him started Evo. I got in to trouble just for trying to find out what this enigma was all about.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Jan25-04, 08:39 AM
Evo you could try reading some of this thread In this Forum (http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=1084&highlight=Personally+and+wronged) (please Do NOT re-start it) as it might be able to fill you in a little more, if not, please tell me as I can probably find more....after all. I've got like "Lots and lots" of posts in these forums...over 2000!
Mr. Robin Parsons
Jan26-04, 08:09 AM
Lets see, served My own country, ~30 million people, Apparently, by The Grace of God, and the Queen of England, served in more places in the World then I could Name....And if you look in todays edition of the local newspaper (Kingston Whig standard) you will see, front page, a picture of one of the Homeless people that I shelter with, his second (recent) appearance in the local paper, and in respect of what I had mentioned (the post) above, concerning journalists wanting their rights (to keep their sources private) respected because it is a defense of the Rights of All of the citizens in the Country, that a FREE PRESS reports (tattles) on the member(s) of the Government who don't behave/act/re-act properly with respect to their obligations concerning citizen interactions, and the very clear BIAS/PREDJUDICE that is being excersized against myself (by WAAAAAY more then just the local paper as I have tried with MANY Canadian News Organizations) that is aiding and abetting the 'government' to remove, and strip, from me, my right to choose for myself, well, anyone can figure out how something like this, if it was going on in your life, would PISS YOU OFF (just a {little} bit) right?
Mr. Robin Parsons
Jan27-04, 10:29 AM
Humm apparently the guy who was in the paper yesterday, got something like four (4) offers of assistance....me, Ha, couldn't even get the legal system to function without (Social) prejudice, in what I had attempted to persue to have some of what was going on, in the past of my life, stopped, it didn't work, cause I was lied to, again, and again, and again, and at this point, it seems that their is NO ONE, (else, aside from me) in the Entirety of this country, who feels/thinks they have an Iota of responcibility towards me...what a crock of.....(deleted)....What a clear misrepresentation of the people of this country, by the representation/representatives of this country NO reflection at all....then again it is a social conspiracy so there are "Canadian citizens" (other then just the politicians) involved, deeply...
Just to keep certain things clear, the Supreme Court of Canada Acknowledged what they could, in the manner that they the Justices are allowed, or permitted, to acknowledge such things (their hands are 'handcuffed' behind their respective backs) inasmuch as the acknowledged reciept of My envoy of my "Opinion" as that is all that they are permitted to do, inasmuch as it was/is the subjective attestament of one person, and cannot be acredited, By them, in any other manner....it befalls the Rest of the Federal Government of Canada to pick up the trail and finish the Job....just that, they profit more from keeping me un-known, after all, it is information that I have, that is important, and precious, and that is much easier to steal then any material object, all you need to steal is the accreditation for being the Origin of the message....steal the messengers credentials and the messenger is no longer known as such, (I have been "kept hidden" longer then most of you will ever know....) someone supplants them...
This all really (expletives deleted, respect for PF, and it's readers)!
Mr. Robin Parsons
Jan31-04, 11:46 AM
Interesting to me, the last number of years in my life, can't even do anything to help myself past working for someone else, can't start out to work for myself cause any time I do I need to contact "someone" (whomever) and that starts it out all over agin, "Who is this guy?" "how come nobodies ever heard of him before" followed by either, they "cannot help", or watch it 'fly out the window' of the inability to prove anything, absent of having a reliable witness (Ha hahahahahahaha) nearby (hee heheheheheheheheeeee) and "it's a gone befores I knows", it's done! (but I can tell that it has been made gonzo....ain't that stupid, even if the liars that have lied to me, (that I knew where lieing to me, so I didn't tell them that I knew) kept up with the lies, ergo fooled themselves Big TIME! into thinking..."He doesn't know"....Shhhh, "don't tell anyone", "Yes! he does!")
Gotta be one of the most comical of things to watch people intentionally ignore something that keeps attracting their attention, un-intentionally, as well....(sometimes, intentionally other times...past...)
Mr. Robin Parsons
Jan31-04, 09:01 PM
Oh yes, (BTW) "they" have been 'predicting' my imminent demise (2 to 5 years) for the last ten to fifteen (10 - 15) years...so
There is an enormity of things that "they" do, and do not, know, about what really goes on, with me, but I can assure you, some, simply attempt to use 'whatever' they can, against me, no matter what....others have helped, so it isn't simply all bad or one sided...but the helpers have been waaaaaay fewer then the agressors Ahem!
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb3-04, 07:06 AM
Hummm one of the other items on the list Paradoxical comedy...the idea that I should, while I am awaiting 'the' (or any) sign of intelligent movement on behalf of the federal Governement of Canada, well, they would like it if I quit smoking...Humm, to quit smoking one of the things that is greatly assistant (and beneficial) is an absence of stressors, tensions and or DISTRACTIONS...humm, this all awaiting any kind of resolution is a GREAT distraction, potetnial for stress and most inportantly, especially the way they like to play this, that they keep you in the dark and un-informed, (to the best of their abilities) generates Anxiety and as anyone who has studied these things to any degree should very well know anxiety and depression are currently thought to the the initiators of smoking in the first place.
Dealing with me, by absenting yourself (from dealing with anything...the cowards method) and hiding simply exacerbates the situation and basically assures that quiting smoking would be even harder for me due to the un-due un-warranted un-needed un-earned stresses and anxieties that this kind of willful ignorance can generate....No I don't really suffer the anxiety that I used to have as a child, Ya learn over time, (just that I seem to still have some Huge gossip {idiot} attempting "story control" on me, ergo they will tell you "why I act the way I do", it will "look" like it, but it is nothing more then them fooling you...and you falling for it, in ignorance! and absence! of any kind of fact verification due to them telling you "not to tell me" {about them, I already know!} as to keep them in "story" control...this is a gossip! nothing more, a malicious! and abusive! gossip!, so stop aiding and abetting them!) and it has followed, in my life, the quitting drinking, and the ceasation of the 'other' stuff....absence of distractors and anxiety inducements would, simply, assist...anyone could figure this out, the government already should be smart enough to recognize the consequences of their own actions right? they should realize that their inaction is simply one of the things that furthers the time of my smoking cause it ain't something I am going to move up on the list to attempt to resolve without this other situation being resolved first, way to much possibility for anxiety stress and simply the distractions of the mind as I have a need of this being resolved....dislike unfinished business....
Anyways, shows that the government is working against it's on better ends, sorta like 'them' sitting back, and awaiting me suing them, planning failures and planning to make a real dirty ugly mess out of something that was simply nicely done and assistive to the entire Country, and all simply to play (Liberal) 'party' politics, not a lick of the "Countries Best interests" at hand/heart/mind...NOTHING!
Just passed the three year aniversery mark, Jan 29, Sucks to live in this country, willfully ignorant specious observers clearly intentionally acting in a manner that is contrary to just about every principal of good government and democratic rule that you could think of, just that, well, most Canadians don't know right, ha, ha, ha, not as much as they would like you to think....country full of willful conspirators...don't give a damn who they screw...
P.S. Have you noticed how much of an issue "homelessness" has become lately in Canada? do you wonder why....?
jimmy p
Feb3-04, 09:42 AM
how do you afford to buy cigarettes?
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb3-04, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by jimmy p
how do you afford to buy cigarettes? With difficulty, to say the least...don't buy them actually (and I don't steal them either!) but it's not a good topic, ya figure?....
That question did arise in the interviews with the homeless, recently, here in Kingston, apparently they responded to a letter to the editor that asked the same question, of one of the guys, in one of the pictures, as he had had a smoke in his hand, one that the camera man (someone like that, from 'the crew') had apparently bought for him... they are apparently in a local forum, through the local newspaper "Kingston Whig Standard" here in Kingston, in the feedback section, but I haven't read any of it....
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb6-04, 09:41 AM
So the product is thought, hence vulnerable to abuse by knowledge, thereof, such that it is effectively taken as It is presented immediately in a way, (Insert {GSS} GIANT SUCKING SOUND!) so the people here would like me to belive that they have ignored me due to: #1) They Like me and #2) is that it is being done "For the Good Of the Country!" hence we discover that the accessories 'at the fact' are, actually, with their above reasons(ing)(ings), aiding and abetting the GSS!...
Humm...
I have to go now, some "friends" of mine have donated some Cigarette butts to me, so I can empty out what is left of the tabacco, and re-roll them, to smoke....Thanks, BYE.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb6-04, 11:55 AM
Oh yes, BTW not everyone is guilty of abusing me, not even close, most people's experiancing of me is small, lots of times stuff is given and 'nothing' is the price, (other then the memory) it's been done "freely"....just that, as you begin to approach the root of the problem, well, that became what it was, is it still? (Trust?...No!) (proof? un-needed!) and has waaaaay led to the present situation, plus...
Perhaps you would notice my penchant for time, after all, mine, not unlike yours, is limited...
Where does having "The Right" come from?, well...simple, you earn it!
Now where is that piece of paper?...Huh??...
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb6-04, 05:03 PM
...and the other one, the other day, the Government of Canada is going to "Underpromise and Overpay" (something like that) works really, really well in my life, cause God is the one who has helped me to know that I have enough of the answer to safely be confident enough to admit to it, (or at least to admitting to it as my opinion) hence the appearance of "underpromise" thereafter clearly the overpayment inasmuch as, in explaining it, more comes out (God's Grace!) more then I knew I had, so it ends up appearing as "overpaid"...but that is NO WAY to run a government!
(unless you can prove God is helping you, specifically, as proven by the overpayment, that wasn't there when you made your underestimate...God's Grace I can get away with that....cause, as I clearly keep telling all of you, it is By God's Grace!...and you?)
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb8-04, 08:24 AM
Heck, if anyone had "bothered" to respond, perhaps the government could have been spared the embarrassment(?)...
jimmy p
Feb8-04, 06:18 PM
I dont understand this Underpromise and Overpay malarky...please explain!
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb8-04, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by jimmy p
I dont understand this Underpromise and Overpay malarky...please explain! I read about it in the newspapers, it, apparently, (acording to the paper I saw) was in the 'Canadian Throne Speech'...heres a Search link that brngs you newspaper reports on it....but you will need find the specific words yourself...
O.K.?
Hummm, now I need to go look for that newspaper, that I saw that stated (statement) in.....oye!
timejim
Feb9-04, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
So apparently some of the people herein (1? zoob) think that all I have to do is "get a job" which tells me that some of you haven't a clue what it is like to "start back up", from the bottom.
Having arrived in Calgary with $35.00 in my pocket, the clothes on my back, a tent, backpack with change of pants, top(2), shorts and underwear, (no socks!) bout as much as I could carry on a bicycle, I started back up from the bottom, at 43 years of age so's I probably have a better idea of what the problems are, then any of you.
Hence my curiosity is expressed herein inasmuch as I would like to know just how simple/complex you think it is, to "start back" out.
BTW what I did for my country, and it's resultant use around the World, the apparent savings, to the Canadian peoples, of Approx $40,000,000.00 dollars, the redeeming of the legislation from the pit that is was 'perhaps' about to be thrown into, again, hence the assitance in the protection of the children of Canada, are all rendered meaningless by the current Government, so don't wonder 'why' I would rather "do nothing" then give anything to them ever again.
(By extension so am I!!, {Rendered meaningless/worthless/useless} But No, I do NOT feel that way, so don't be stupid, it is simply an acceptance of the clearly expressed belief and practise of/by others)
P.S. if you would wish to start, well, I presently live in a tent, have no money, a bicycle, (and I am 47 now!) and basically nothing else......so, GO for IT!!!
you must have a computer and electricity and maybe a phone line to go online or how else could you post??
Mattius_
Feb9-04, 11:38 PM
From what I have read and understood, I ask the question...
Why is recognition important? Isnt the fact that you did something positive for the canadian people enough gratification for you to get back up and do it again?
It may be subjective of me to say, but, you seem to preach being a man of principal more than a man of egocentrism, If that is the case, than why must you be apart of a movement you created? Why cannot the individual suffer, (Toi), for the common good?
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb10-04, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by Mattius_
From what I have read and understood, I ask the question...
Why is recognition important? Isnt the fact that you did something positive for the canadian people enough gratification for you to get back up and do it again?
It may be subjective of me to say, but, you seem to preach being a man of principal more than a man of egocentrism, If that is the case, than why must you be apart of a movement you created? Why cannot the individual suffer, (Toi), for the common good? Something about working earning an income living a life that is not one of poverty and sufferance needlessly inasmuch as the ability to contribute is NOT something that I should be letting anyone else take credit for as then they would be accreditd at tsomehting they, in truth didn't do, and I end up participating in their lie...not really something I want to do, if it isn't something that I willingly (in accordance with God's will) gave away to them....
It would help me to get a better job, not that that is very viable at this point in time, once they try to make you famous by using word of mouth, (only) sad, and disgusting, what begins to happen to you when Other people dream you are going to be "Rich", (with money) they beset you for whatever they can, and when they find out you have no money, they attempt to punish you for that too...
Aside from which why in the world should I have to suffer needlessly for the common good, (For some other idiots ego!!?) my suffering is NOT for the Common good, it is demonstrative of the Government NOT adhereing to it's required principals in it's interactivity with it's people, it's stated objectives in rule of the Country.
You tell me, serve 30 million people, donate and give away a piece of work that is a part of better then 40 years of your lifes learning, and watch others take accreditation for your work, watch as it is used to serve more places on the planet then you can name, and watch as others take credit for your work, again....that has gone on for more then ten years now, this was a place that I figured that their was just no way I could get Robbed again, certainly NOT right in front of the Supreme Court of Canada, but....
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb10-04, 10:16 AM
Just so we keep some of this clear, originaly, Waaaaaay back, I had told the "Government" that I had wanted this to remain PRIVATE, all of it, including their (required) responce to me, cause what I am missing is the ability to Independantly prove that I have done this.
The press worries that the Courts wording of recognition of "my opinion" leaves it too open, to stand alone as a proof, what the other side of the "Twin Towers" of Government (the system used, here in Canada, is seen as "Twin Towers", {Adjudication of law, and Writting [proscribing] of law} in the US it is "Three Branches") has a responcibility to recognize, even if only PRIVATELY, as to ensure that the LEGAL History of the Country, is properly told....that is also one of the very reasons why Members of Parliament are given the protections, from lieing, in the parliament, so that the Truth of it can still come out, without legal recriminations against them, it is to take away the "Fear of the consequences of their Honesty" as only an 'Honest Government' has the 'Right' to Govern, it is also relevant to them 'upholding and maintaining' their individual, and collective, Rights to the Title of "Honorable" Person(s)...something that really isn't what I think of certain ones...but that too, is only a "personal opinion"....
....does that help?
EDIT the other thing that I, personally, note is the absence of support for independant thought...complete and total absence of any willingness to support independant thought....and that, independant thought, is what brought them the answer that served, in the World, so well....no even so little as a word....just willfully ignorant silence when they owe the responce, even if only to tell me "NO!".....
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb10-04, 08:56 PM
apparently, I am about to be banned from these forums, sooo
C:\YA!
Mattius_
Feb10-04, 09:37 PM
Why?
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb11-04, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by Mattius_
Why? Good question answering will simply bring the risk of it back, so if you would excuze me, I would not respond in full to it suffice to say it was an "informational dispute" ...
That stated, and the above about recognition etc. It is in the history of my life that I had the opportunity, God's Grace, to know what Might be coming towards me, inasmuch as it is seeming to me that I could author a omplete T.o.E. hence the idea of fame, is relative, as such an emission from myself would probably bring World Wide recogniton, that is why (partially) I knew that I could take this one, with the Canadian Government, and successfully execute the result privately....still had opportunity/potential for Great Fame, something that I was, neither, looking for, nor shunning, but simply accepting it as it is, or becomes, a responcibility in my life, a social responcibiity........means I have to do it, and, by God's Grace, I know it, and accept it...no problemo...
Anyone tellng you different, is lieing, and there have been a few of those surrounding not me persay, but my life, inasmuch as they seem to have set themselves up as people who "know me" and thereafter abuse me by that insinuated knowledge that is perhaps partially true, yet wholely provable for anything that I wrote (just ask them to see the letter where I stated whatever they are trying to tell you I said, thereafter net postings...Uhmmmm trust adulterability, well, do you trust net generated evidence? but that's another story altogether) and thereafter anything that they would wish to tell you, that I have, supposedly, or purportedly, told them, well you open the door of the 'Lieing gossip' as that is mostly what was spread about me, for many a years...
That's another story all-together, just that it posits a forwarning about people claiming to know me, claiming to be quoteing me, claiming to know my thoughts (Oh ya?....prove it!) people who will use, and abuse, you for there end of getting at me, stopping, and/or impeding me in my quest for a proper venue for the presentation of a T.o.E. over in England/London/Britain (seat/cradle of democracy and democratic right in/for this past millenium) as I has already exhausted all means of venue in the US.....(actually I didn't exhaust them, an American exhausted them for me, but it works out to the same ends, the answer was/is 'NO') and venue in Canada is simply unacceptable, why, heck go back and reread all of what I have written cause you don't see the way my own country is treating me, which only suffices to ensure their exclusion, based upon their willfull ignorance, as attempt at control....soooo
But I can tell you, what they wanted me to know about fame, simple, make someone famous, without their knowing how your 'spreading the word' (of mouth) and you can do a lots of damage to that person, especially if you can get the social ostrasization thing going as has/had been done with/to me, then again I also suffer the lack of $ocialability (Can't be "Social" if you have no Money!) that comes from fame without fortune, added into the beseting of the few (adds quickly) in society that want only for taking whatever they can, from others, anyway they can....and I have had to live with some of them soooo......... (sorta like "Sleeping with the Enemy")
Anyways.....if I don't get banned, perhaps more, later...
hitssquad
Feb11-04, 03:33 PM
Originally posted by timejim
you must have a computer and electricity and maybe a phone line to go online or how else could you post??
...From a public terminal.
-Chris
jimmy p
Feb11-04, 05:21 PM
Barring you?? Why thats INSANE!!!
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb11-04, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by jimmy p
Barring you?? Why thats INSANE!!! No it's fixed....and the one above,...also, a public library, or a (Nice) Universitie's library....so long as Respect is maintained...(EDIT by me! towards 'them'...The students/faculty/staff etc.)
(lookitthat! 241)
firefly
Feb11-04, 08:45 PM
Yippeeeeeee!!!!! What would we do without our One Man Thank Tink of occasional Thunkful persuasion! [:)]
phatmonky
Feb12-04, 01:37 AM
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
So, my stating the above, "bested by Moi" is NOT a manner that I, personally, think in, cause to me to state something like that, is arrogant because it is patently false!
Yes, I, By the Grace of God, did come up with a solution to a perniscious International legal problem respecting the "Rights of the General Public V Pedophiles" and am the 'first' one to do that.
But clearly I had/have advantages, in my ignorance of the law inasmuch as I, being outside of the field, was NOT subjected to the intimidational forces of the "Water Cooler" talk amongst lawyers, people in the legal system, that would be making very clear the extent of "other" law that such a definition would need cover, without changing any of it! a very humbling and Intimidating concept, to be sure.
Never mind the Simplicity that this man is a trained Lawyer, not a chance I could best him at the Law, not in any kind of real contest (lest it be a court case and (provable) truth is on my side) of legal Knolwedge, he'd whomp my Butt.
So, this changes little for what this thread started out to be, sorta, but it is a venue of speech, Free speech, soooo......
The solution itself is simply a "Proof", in a manner of speaking, even though, normally, a Court cannot accept the unsubstantiated testimony of one individual as a proof, ordinarily, this circumstance is, and was, different, as the work itself, when read, reveals somthing of the inside of yourself, how an "assemblage of your understanding", (words) fits together, and when sequenced out properly, illustrate the function of the flowthrough of information in a human's "Realm of the imagination", thus rendering that expression "Works of the Imagination" as a 'self description'.
This is (some) of how I got.......here???
Well I have done some research on the Sharpe case, and am I to follow that you wrote the basis for the original 1993 child pornography law?
I make this assertion based on you mentiong this "going on for 10 years", the Sharpe case, and the quote about victory for children (which was "astounding victory for children" as far as I can find in my searching).
Let me try to piece this together:
-I don't know what you did before this period of time.
-1993 rolls around and you put together a 'proof' to base a law on for determining the difference between an innocent pic of kid in the bathtub and real child porn.
-You offer this to the government in good faith, or perhaps a deal.
-The government screws you. Legislators and lawyers put it together in legal mumbo jumbo, pass it as law, and enjoy their success.
-You mention your solution to the Sharpe case in Calgary (or elsewhere in an earlier time) and someone else (possibly the person you spoke to in Calgary) and they take credit for it (part of me asks whether this is connected to the other person at your Shelter who has been in the paper twice now with offers of assistance. But that could just be me wanting to piece all of your life back to a single point ;) )
-Through outside pressures, and the powers that be, you are made a social leper of some sort.
I don't follow what these pressures were, assuming they were external, and I don't follow exactly who in America has swindled you as well (unless you 1> sent your idea here and a duplicate event happened 2> your work has been used as a foundation for other countries to follow)
Well, let's see what response this generates.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb12-04, 07:25 AM
Speaks of the abilities of communication in written English language...
Originally posted by phatmonky
Well I have done some research on the Sharpe case, and am I to follow that you wrote the basis for the original 1993 child pornography law? NO, the law was challenged, starting in the courts in British Columbia, to the Supreme Court of BC, then to the Supreme Court of Canada, I had nothing to do with the writing of the original law...
I make this assertion based on you mentiong this "going on for 10 years", the Sharpe case, and the quote about victory for children (which was "astounding victory for children" as far as I can find in my searching). You are starting to blend together parts of my life in a manner that they are, NOT blended, by myself, nor in the manner that I have told it...the 'ten years' (plus) is/are other things..."Victory for all the Children of Canada..." was the quote I had heard, and read, at and around that time...
Let me try to piece this together:
-I don't know what you did before this period of time.
-1993 rolls around and you put together a 'proof' to base a law on for determining the difference between an innocent pic of kid in the bathtub and real child porn. TOTALLY WRONG
-You offer this to the government in good faith, <--Yup...Nope---> or perhaps a deal.
-The government screws you. Legislators and lawyers put it together in legal mumbo jumbo, pass it as law, and enjoy their success. Again totally wrong
-You mention your solution to the Sharpe case in Calgary (or elsewhere in an earlier time) and someone else (possibly the person you spoke to in Calgary) and they Ahem the government of Canada Took credit for it...the Liberal Party.... take credit for it (part of me asks whether this is connected to the other person at your Shelter who has been in the paper twice now with offers of assistance. But that could just be me wanting to piece all of your life back to a single point ;) ) Nope, and yup
-Through outside pressures, and the powers that be, you are made a social leper of some sort. Actually organized social gossips...et al and the medias complete absence of respecting it's required legal social obligation >> licensed broadcasters after all...
I don't follow what these pressures were, assuming they were external, and I don't follow exactly who in America has swindled you as well (unless you 1> sent your idea here and a duplicate event happened 2> your work has been used as a foundation for other countries to follow) That was 'other work'(s), not this/ (/that...the Sharpe one) particular piece of writing
Well, let's see what response this generates. Hows this?
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb12-04, 09:07 AM
Originally posted by phatmonky
(SNIP) Well I have done some research on the Sharpe case, Well, let's see what response this generates. (SNoP) No offence, but, one that would question, either, your patience with yourself, respective of you 'having read' and not taken the time to arrange the presented (by me) thoughts, or one that asks of your reading Comprehension skills inasmuch as (speed?) 'read', but, clearly, not understood, nor assimilated in what is it's presentation, as evidenced by your responce to me....that kind of generated responce....again, no offence [a)]
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb12-04, 10:15 AM
BTW phatmonky my impression(s) of you are not really what you seem to be demonstrating yourself to be, in that last one, but, as that is just my opinon, I could be wrong....but, please, don't try to 'goad' me, cause......
[!:)] then you [*(] , soooo....O.K. [8)] [?] [a)]
phatmonky
Feb12-04, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
BTW phatmonky my impression(s) of you are not really what you seem to be demonstrating yourself to be, in that last one, but, as that is just my opinon, I could be wrong....but, please, don't try to 'goad' me, cause......
[!:)] then you [*(] , soooo....O.K. [8)] [?] [a)]
I dont follow. I'm not sure what your impression of me was before. 'Kind of response' was simply a comment from me on poking in the dark trying to catch up on something you have been discussing since long before I joined this board. Pardon me if I missed some points that you hold to be common knowledge (after all, you'd be surpised how much easier it is for you to understand your own posts, and references to other posts, than it is for someone else). I did the best I could with your allusions to other threads, in this thread, and quickly following links to other links.
That said, there's no 'goading' involved here. I was simply tryign to catch up with the rest of the crowd on what is associated with this situation, and what is reference to other parts of you life (disassociated.)
P.S. No offense taken, if you won't take any when I say "you write how you think". Not really a bad thing per say, for I do it as well, but it does make it hard to follow (as a total outsider) when you reference something, someone asks abotu it, and then you reference something else already said (and then repeat). I don't often take much time to read other people's lives online (i simply don't usually care to), so part of it is my lack of patience on trying to catch up without knowing if the answers I want were even posted before.
chroot
Feb12-04, 05:05 PM
Why in the world is this thread still going? Gah.
- Warren
phatmonky
Feb12-04, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by chroot
Why in the world is this thread still going? Gah.
- Warren
Because you and I can't stop posting in it. Gah?
- monky
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb12-04, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by chroot
Why in the world is this thread still going? Gah.
- Warren Because of me..... why else?
P.S. phatmonky agree/agreed/agreeable/agreeably.....(sometimes me too!)...no I don't assume it's "common knowledge" but I understand the perspective, try to write to compensate, and know that that is mostly the problem, for me(?), the amount I need to explain to get them even close to what it is that I "know"....and all that follows that.....
Insert whomever twisting your arms to read this....NAH!
Andy
Feb13-04, 03:55 PM
I always ask myself why i am still reading this thread, and i havent a clue why. Phatmonkey, i dont think anybody knows what it is the Mr Robin Parsons did, other than himself and the government involved. I have been a regular for about one and half years now and have had many discussions with MRP about this subject and have never got anywhere.
Would be interesting to find out just what it is though.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb13-04, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by Andy
(SNIP) I have been a regular for about one and half years now and have had many discussions with MRP about this subject s-t-r-e-t-c-h-i-n-g it just a little.....aren't we?
Would be interesting to find out just what it is though. (SNoP) Pssst they call it r-e-a-d-i-n-g....then comprehension....then again... [6)]
Andy
Feb13-04, 04:34 PM
Good to see that your still here.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb13-04, 04:45 PM
U2 [6)]!
Andy
Feb13-04, 04:48 PM
Cheers, been away for the past 2 weeks doing a really boring course about motor vehicle's. It wouldnt be soo boring if the other students werent quite so stupid mind you.
Bit off topic but i dont care.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb13-04, 04:57 PM
So then start a thread on it...."bore away" at your boredom [6)] thread yourself in...you know **** it
(Ohh Andy, MRP used a bad word!) [o)]
[6)]
Andy
Feb13-04, 05:12 PM
Nah i cant be bothered to start a thread about being bored. I will just hijack one of your threads.
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb14-04, 06:30 AM
So if anyone else has questions, or answers, please go ahead, otherwise I'll probably just keep going on, as I have, throughout all of these times....Tanks!
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb19-04, 07:19 AM
Have been listening to the latest scandal of this Liberal (party) government, people wondering if the present Prime Minster "knew", as the last Prime Minster Should have known (which clearly he did, as that would be why he had stopped short the last session of parliament, just as that Auditors report was about to become public...hence he delayed it's release and dropped it into the hands of his (then) rival, the Present Prime Minster).....makes me wonder if I could prove that "they know".....Humm, person who was Attorney General, at the time of the Sharpe case, is NOW the Deputy Prime Minster! (?) so how is anyone gonna tell me that the former Attorney General, who is/was required, by law, to tell the then Prime Minster just how the Constitutional Challenge (to the Countries Constitution/Charter of Rights) was solved, somehow doesn't know this any more, and has done NOTHING to tell this to the Current Prime Minster, who, as a member of the Liberal Party of Canada, should know as they, The Party, were sent the information, and know of the problem, should know, from several levels of positions within that party, and the simplicity that it is a responcibility of the Office of the Prime Minster of Canada, so he should have been told in the official exchange that took place when the office's powers and RESPONCIBILITIES were passed to him....
Makes me wonder what they wait for, as waiting is simply irresponcible...makes me wonder what is wrong with the Canadian media, "no news reporting on me" or this case, something that would have allowed them to 'skewer' the present government, wonder if they are playing political favoritism as Not taking a chance to "skewer a government" in defence of one 'ordinary citizen' is about as far from what these people do as you can get, and they have gone to that point "volontarily"...means they are in on it, NO DOUBT!
What a disgusting place to live, gives me lots of reasons for wanting to get out of, what they have turned into a S*** hole for me now, and never come back....
Really truly represents making this country into one of the worst places on earth to live if you have even an Iota of Brains, and no paperwork to back it up, cause they are disgusting thieves!
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb19-04, 04:32 PM
Funny, reading todays Globe and Mail, a National newspaper out of Toronto, inside is a printed letter from a Canadian Senator that is supposed to be a private communications with other members of the Canadian Government during Caucus meetings, led in (headlined) by the newspapers observation of just how difficult it is to keep a secret!...unless it's me....
As to the leaking of information by the members of a Caucus, to the Media, I would support the idea of Members of a political party who, knowing that they do not have enough power to have it addressed properly, thinking that it might not be being done "in the countries best interests", seeking assistance 'covertly' from the media, in this manner, as they get to keep their respective representation of the population/people who/that elected them...so heres to freedom of speech, it helps keep the interests of the Country at Front and Center of the (media driven) Nation's (National) attention...
So...anyone willing to help me move? (not much 'stuff'...brain is "highly portable"...come with it's own head! [6)] )
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb20-04, 08:22 PM
Oft have I wondered....how much longer?
zoobyshoe
Feb20-04, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons So...anyone willing to help me move? (not much 'stuff'...brain is "highly portable"...come with it's own head! [6)] )
Where you headed?
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb21-04, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by zoobyshoe
Where you headed? It's in here....first choice (now?) would still be London, if possible, second Choice London (Great Britain, not Ontario) third choice would follow as "The City of London" In the Land across the Atlantic Ocean called "Great Britain"...and well, I'd like to see somewhere where democracy had roots, and is rooted in history, for milenia, and Well London England would sound nice, so, whadda ya tink?
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb21-04, 02:51 PM
So just went to a coffee store and was entertained by a man, telling his child, with him, not to "look at that guy, 'cause he's a Pot Smoker"....looking at me...Hummmm
Lets see now, just coming out of 12 to 13 years of social (Canadian!) abuse, at the hands of malicious gossips, making false accusations about me behind my back, and the fact of my complete social ostracization precludes me (half the time) from even knowing what is being said about me behind my back and now this...
If there is a single one of you with proof, please take it to the police and have me arrested immediately, otherwise, perhaps you should simply act like a little bit smarter adult and know that there are stupid, malicious people, in society, who will intentionaly start any rumor they can about anyone whom they think they can target that way....you should know it is that, cause otherwise, I would be In a courtroom being CHARGED with a CRIME by the PERSON ACCUSING ME!!!...otherwise, it is you who "aid and abet" the commission of a CRIME....
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb22-04, 06:34 AM
Read the above posting before you read this one cause some of you need to figure some things out, like the consequences of your actions, and inactions, inasmuch as the stress levels, and the just plain FRUSTRATION that what has been going on in my life for the last umpteen years is the kind of thing that "DRIVES people to DRINK"...that expression you'll accept, but if I was to say "it drives someone to use marijuana", (Medicinally a SEDATIVE!) you'll freak out, and scream, and complain, and cry about it...if it had driven me to drink, then I might have made the papers by now, for the problems that I would have caused, freaking out about all of this, while drunk...but that hasn't happened, and isn't going to...BUT the point needs be noted by all of you as it is that kind of situation wherein you are probably more responcible, cause anyone put through this kind of Societal/social ABUSE, ABUSIVENESS, is someone who will be looking for some kind of emotional release, stress release, anguish release, release from the appearance of hopelessness and despair that all of this kind of overt lunacy and complete idiocy and mockery of Canada and Canadian Justice rights law causes, this attempt at complete and total piracy of My very Life, the idea that I should, now, sue the governement for redress is simply a confused attempt to Extort Me of even more of my time, extortion by process, as TIME is all I HAVE!!!!!!!! and "Ya" it is clear, that is what you all want of me, to stay here, go F*** yourselves, will ya, cause you are truly disgusting/revileing/abusive/cruel/blackhearted/ignorant/stupid/and INSANE! (and you would be/are the driving cause of it!!)
Your/this ruse is disgustingly obvious, and proves you to be, what you are!
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb22-04, 08:33 PM
So I've got two 'stories' to tell, this one first....
I Have admitted to "Previous Use" why haven't I been arrested for that....well in law, if you do not have proof of the crime, you cannot proceed/prosecute, nor are you allowed to just assume it to be so, you must be able to prove it!
Having Marijuana (THC or THC Delta 9) in your bloodstream, is NOT illegal, the law is for Possession....if you partake of some by means of a method called a "Shotgun" (One person inhales the smoke into their mouth, and blows it into the open mouth of another person) in which the THC can be effectively ingested, it is without direct possession of the drug....that is why people who admit to "Previous Use" are not (generally) persued in/by the law...(Ross Robagliati {SP??Pardon}) inasmuch as there is (must be) the Presumption of Innocence (that protects your sense of Freedom!) and the Law is NOT allowed to simply assume that because you admitted to having had it in you, that you had therefore possessed it, just NOT allowed, as it runs over individual Rights and Freedoms, left, right, and sideways!
It had been that I had wanted to be honest about it if I could as I knew that that was the only manner in which truthful information can come out...tell me, how do you craft good laws if you don't have any idea of just what the item you are criminalising does, is used, affects people and social situations, etc. etc. etc. it is only in honest discourse that we can arrive at manners of treating the root causes of addiction that begats the activity....otherwise we start criminalizing all sorts of what we see as deleterious activity, based upon our knowledge that they are addictions, and we start jailing Overweight people, Politicians for being addicted to their own egos, 'Cept that that is exactly what you NEED to be a politician, especially a good one, so on it goes...
Does that help?
The other one comes tomorrow, if possible....
Mr. Robin Parsons
Feb22-04, 09:49 PM
So, in the spring of last year I "lucked out" and found myself a Nintendo game Boy, Color, in the snow. Showed it to some of the Younger people, that I knew, at one of the shelters that I have frequented.
Shortly thereafter, I have this couple approaching me, claiming that it is actually their Game boy, and they want it BACK!
So I ask the questions, what color is it, what make, specific model (if possible), type of game already in it, the female half loses out on all questions that cannot be referenced to me having told the younger people of the details of some of it, wrong Color, Wrong model, Wrong game in it, wrong characters inthe game, has no clue where it was lost and I know that were I found it is NOT one of the places that I have seen this particular person spending lots of her time...wrong side of town for her....
So they try to play "Good Cop/Bad Cop" switching their hats faster then you can see, and when if finally becomes clearly apparent, to the both of them, that I Know that it is NOT theirs, they know it isn't theirs (it shows! and they know it/ that! too!) one of them sits down, to eat, at the same table as me, and starts telling me how angry he is at being ripped off, how he is being robbed ....
To this day, they will persist with this line, even though they know I know it isn't/wasn'