"Starting out.............again(?)"

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So apparently some of the people herein (1? zoob) think that all I have to do is "get a job" which tells me that some of you haven't a clue what it is like to "start back up", from the bottom.

Having arrived in Calgary with $35.00 in my pocket, the clothes on my back, a tent, backpack with change of pants, top(2), shorts and underwear, (no socks!) bout as much as I could carry on a bicycle, I started back up from the bottom, at 43 years of age so's I probably have a better idea of what the problems are, then any of you.

Hence my curiosity is expressed herein inasmuch as I would like to know just how simple/complex you think it is, to "start back" out.

BTW what I did for my country, and it's resultant use around the World, the apparent savings, to the Canadian peoples, of Approx $40,000,000.00 dollars, the redeeming of the legislation from the pit that is was 'perhaps' about to be thrown into, again, hence the assitance in the protection of the children of Canada, are all rendered meaningless by the current Government, so don't wonder 'why' I would rather "do nothing" then give anything to them ever again.

(By extension so am I!!, {Rendered meaningless/worthless/useless} But No, I do NOT feel that way, so don't be stupid, it is simply an acceptance of the clearly expressed belief and practise of/by others)

P.S. if you would wish to start, well, I presently live in a tent, have no money, a bicycle, (and I am 47 now!) and basically nothing else......so, GO for IT!!!

[Monique]

I read your post several times, but I still don't understand it fully. You willingly chose to start over from scratch?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Monique
I read your post several times, but I still don't understand it fully. You willingly chose to start over from scratch?
Where do you get that from??, can you not tell, I have no choice about it!

[Adrian Baker]

Some tent... with a PC and internet access! [:D]

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Adrian Baker
Some tent... with a PC and internet access! [:D]
Humm, didn't start this one for 'others' to be making fun of me for this, if you haven't got something to contribute, please don't bother!!, thanks!

[Andy]

You had to expect that Mr Robin Parsons, remember that there are alot of new members using this site that dont have a clue about your predicament so expect a few questions to be asked, remember what me and entropy where like.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Andy
You had to expect that Mr Robin Parsons, remember that there are alot of new members using this site that dont have a clue about your predicament so expect a few questions to be asked, remember what me and entropy where like.
Hadn't forgotten, Entropy Never quit.....!

[Andy]

Well you'll be gald to know that i have, although i am still intrigued.

[Monique]

Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Where do you get that from??, can you not tell, I have no choice about it! No, I couldn't tell. Some people DO make the choice to live like you have described. I don't know the circumstances by which you were forced, so I am in no position to comment :)

[Adrian Baker]

Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Humm, didn't start this one for 'others' to be making fun of me for this, if you haven't got something to contribute, please don't bother!!, thanks!

[*(]

[Artman]

Mr. Robin Parsons, I have followed several of your posts and I find you to be intelligent and well spoken (written). I don't wish to be offensive, but I also sense that you are defensive and perhaps have a case of paranoia.

I agree that in your present condition, you would not be employable. Even though you are obviously intelligent, the question of why you haven't been employed will haunt you.

If you don't mind some constructive criticism, I would recommend you divorce yourself from all thoughts of government (seriously) and see a therapist to talk out your situation (there seem to be some deep rooted problems there). Find yourself some help, such as someone willing to get you some decent clothing, or a place to stay (everyone needs a hand of some sort from time to time).

I don't imagine it is easy. I can only imagine that it would be very hard.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Artman
Mr. Robin Parsons, I have followed several of your posts and I find you to be intelligent and well spoken (written). I don't wish to be offensive, but I also sense that you are defensive and perhaps have a case of paranoia.

I agree that in your present condition, you would not be employable. Even though you are obviously intelligent, the question of why you haven't been employed will haunt you.

If you don't mind some constructive criticism, I would recommend you divorce yourself from all thoughts of government (seriously) and see a therapist to talk out your situation (there seem to be some deep rooted problems there). Find yourself some help, such as someone willing to get you some decent clothing, or a place to stay (everyone needs a hand of some sort from time to time).

I don't imagine it is easy. I can only imagine that it would be very hard.
WOW you ever off base, that and it is quite clear you don't understand the situation (thats OK!) and are NOT addressing the question posed, why?

P.S. You constructive critism, isn't, you would want for me to "see a therapist", why?? do they need to learn something from me?? cause I can assure you they would NOT be able to help me, a lawyer, perhaps, but definitely NOT a therapist, OYE!

[Artman]

Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
...and are NOT addressing the question posed, why?


As I understand it, this is the question posed:

Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
...Hence my curiosity is expressed herein inasmuch as I would like to know just how simple/complex you think it is, to "start back" out.
[/B]


I said " I agree that in your present condition, you would not be employable. Even though you are obviously intelligent, the question of why you haven't been employed will haunt you."

and

"I don't imagine it is easy. I can only imagine that it would be very hard."

I don't really know your situation, all I know is what I can sense from your posts. No offense intended. I could indeed be way off-base.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Artman
I said " I agree that in your present condition, you would not be employable. Even though you are obviously intelligent, the question of why you haven't been employed will haunt you."
"Not employable" is relative to certain conditions I need to meet for any employer, the "question of why.....haunting me" is a joke, at best.... it is Not at all!

I know quite well, by God's grace, the 'why' and 'who' of my current situation. (most of you don't! OK!)

It is NOT stated anywhere that "I am NOT employable" I asked what do you think I need to go through to re-achieve employment, what does it take, to start out, from the bottom, at 47, with no money, and no home, and little clothing, no food, no help.........

[Monique]

Very true, without a house, no social security, without a house, no insurance, without a house or insurance, no job. Without money, no house.

[Artman]

Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
"Not employable" is relative to certain conditions I need to meet for any employer, the "question of why.....haunting me" is a joke, at best.... it is Not at all!

I know quite well, by God's grace, the 'why' and 'who' of my current situation. (most of you don't! OK!)

It is NOT stated anywhere that "I am NOT employable" I asked what do you think I need to go through to re-achieve employment, what does it take, to start out, from the bottom, at 47, with no money, and no home, and little clothing, no food, no help.........

You aren't seeing my point. The thing that a 47 year old man needs most to get a job, IS a job. Your lack of employment is haunting your search for employment (not you specifically). Yes I know this is unfair, but most people get their employees by stealing them from their competition.

Employers aren't looking to give someone a break, they are looking for someone to help their business. If you have been employed, making money for someone, can demonstrate that you can make money for your potential employer, and can do the job better than any other candidate, then you have a chance of getting that job.

[megashawn]

I've tried to keep up with Parson's saga, but everytime I get into it I simply get more confused.

For instance, I do not understand why a person who posseses the knowledge you have cannot find someone to help/support his plans.

I've lived on my own before, without a job and whatnot. I had a car however, fast car, so I didn't worry about insurance. I did odd end jobs, making anywhere from $20-100 a week. It is hard not being able to lay your head down in the same place, or atleast a comfortable bed every night. And if you have been royally screwed by the government as you've described in the past, I can understand not wanting to work for a legit company that requires you to pay taxes to the people who put you in this predicament.

If I was you, I'd head south. I could probably get you a job on a siding crew if you're interested, and know how/can learn. Somehow, I doubt this will interest you much.

Plus, its got to be getting cold this time of year. With said possesions, do you not find it difficult to remain comfortable(temp wize) in the winter?

[Nereid]

Mr Parsons: I asked what do you think I need to go through to re-achieve employment, what does it take, to start out, from the bottom, at 47, with no money, and no home, and little clothing, no food, no help......... I am ignorant about what social services are available for someone in your situation in Canada, but in other countries with which I have some familiarity, there is a wide range of social support available. This may include:
- central/state/local government assistance for the unemployed, the uninsured, the homeless
- private charity groups, of many different kinds.

If you have access to the internet, finding the names of such institutions, their roles, locations, contact details, etc should be quite easy.

From these compassionate, experienced and professional people you should be able to get good, specific, concrete advice on how to become re-employed, given your background, capabilities, desires, and circumstances.

Becoming re-employed can be looked at as just another problem to be solved - what do you have? what do you want to do? what can you do? what are you prepared to do? Then, on the other side, who is offering employment (of a kind that meets - to some extent - the answers to the earlier questions)? what is your competition like (others who might seek the same work)? what distinctive characteristics do you have that make you more attractive to an employer than your competition? how can you develop some of these quickly and easily? etc. As usual in problem solving apply Pareto (aka the 80/20 rule).

[Monique]

I am not sure about your situation, things would be greatly simplified with friends/family/aqueantances (sp?) giving you an address. Without an address you are nobody. How is one supposed to get social support without having an address for them to send it to?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Artman
You aren't seeing my point. The thing that a 47 year old man needs most to get a job, IS a job. Your lack of employment is haunting your search for employment (not you specifically). Yes I know this is unfair, but most people get their employees by stealing them from their competition.

Employers aren't looking to give someone a break, they are looking for someone to help their business. If you have been employed, making money for someone, can demonstrate that you can make money for your potential employer, and can do the job better than any other candidate, then you have a chance of getting that job.
My apologies for my abruptness, you do have a very clear point inasmuch as what you express is what most potential emloyers would see in me, little if anything, and that is probably the most common perception. (even if wrong!)

But that is a part of it, if I cannot prove, adequately, that I have done what I have tried to 'prove' I have done, then how can I prove to anyone that I have the ability to generate value.....it is the absence of "Laurels" (Public accreditations) in my life that is what is the problem.

But this digresses into social studies, the original question is what does it take to get back out from this starting point? Getting a Job is a small part of that, if you think otherwise, you are mistaken.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Nereid
I am ignorant about what social services are available for someone in your situation in Canada, but in other countries with which I have some familiarity, there is a wide range of social support available. This may include:
- central/state/local government assistance for the unemployed, the uninsured, the homeless
- private charity groups, of many different kinds.

If you have access to the internet, finding the names of such institutions, their roles, locations, contact details, etc should be quite easy.

From these compassionate, experienced and professional people you should be able to get good, specific, concrete advice on how to become re-employed, given your background, capabilities, desires, and circumstances.

Becoming re-employed can be looked at as just another problem to be solved - what do you have? what do you want to do? what can you do? what are you prepared to do? Then, on the other side, who is offering employment (of a kind that meets - to some extent - the answers to the earlier questions)? what is your competition like (others who might seek the same work)? what distinctive characteristics do you have that make you more attractive to an employer than your competition? how can you develop some of these quickly and easily? etc. As usual in problem solving apply Pareto (aka the 80/20 rule).
This can be addressed, but I have to go for my meal now, soup Kitchens dictate my agenda for the day, so........

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So what we have are two options, one is to go on welfare, the other get a job.

Getting a job entails the needs of washing myself, my clothing, (of which, I haven't the right kinds, or amounts, for either, office, or labor work, labor requiring special things like "steel toed boots", something like a waiter requires black shoes, minimal stuff, + etc.) getting to, and from work, (without developing a sweat as cycling does cause to arise) and the most important of all of the needs, where the heck do I now eat, because, the scheduling of the soup kitchens is arranged as to attempt to ensure that working people are NOT taking advantage (misusing) of them.

At best, it is a two week wait till the first cheque, at that point I now have the earnings of a maximum one weeks time, first and last months rent is required as deposit in Kingston so I do NOT have enough to acquire housing, even if I can get ten or twelve bucks an hour (snicker snicker, not likely to happen as they know I want to leave the country so they will attempt to ensure that I get as little as possible for wages.....don't believe that, it is the "Why" I have gotten no accreditation/(public)Laurels) the most I would have after forty hours of work @ $12.00 is $480.00 less taxes, ~ 30% so about $350.00 clear/net (Yes I know it isn't exactly 30%, don't care, either, as it is close enough for what we need to see!) and I have needed to feed myself, clothe myself, and wash, without facilities for any of that.

And I now need to go through, how many more weeks? before I can accumulate enough money to be able to pay "first and last" on an apartment, which, here in Kingston, the Average rent is about $525.00/mo..................

There is lots more I could tell you but, I suspect you might be able to figure it out for yourselves.

Option one "go on Welfare" (state assistance) been there, went like this, after giving them enough personal information to have satisfied the Stazi, they agree to give you monthly support of $520.00 per month, of that $325.00 goes to your rent so you will not be given that money unless you have already acquired a rental, have a signed lease. So they will give you the remaining $195.00/mo as that is the sum total of monies that they estimate it takes to live for a month.During that time you MUST do minimum of 30 hrs. per week of job searching, again filling out paperwork as to prove you have done enough paperwork to satisfy the Stazi, using the $195.00 for whatever you need like food, bus fare, and everything/anything else.

My receipt of welfare lasted all of two and a half months as during the third month my worker told me (on the phone) that if I didn't get an apartment by the end of the month I was to be cut off, (That's illegal BTW, but done on the phone, I didn't have my handy tape recorder on me for that one, so no ability to "prove it" legally) me, I simply didn't even bother handing in the paperwork for that month and accepted the loss of the clearly ensnaring system that Welfare seems to present.

So, any suggestions? Questions?

[Monique]

Become a street artist, no taxes involved :) Not sure what kind of talents you have, you could try setting up philosophy sessions or something at a local market.. there was one famous philosopher that actually did that.. *thinking* ..Socrates! You are a free man, you should be able to read up at local libraries.

In Amsterdam we actually have quite a lot of street artists, some need the money, others hold respectable jobs and probably earn lots of money. They just like to express themselves and brighten someones day.

There is this one guy who I really like, he seems to be standing there every few days.. a business man, in a suit, running, his tie is waving behind his back by the aircurrent of his speed, he is pointing out his hand as though to grab someones attention, maybe to hold the tram for him. The only thing, he stands there like a statue. Perfectly still, vivid expression on his face, no blinking, atachè case in his hand, tie waving suspended in the air behind his back, in the middle of the busiest tourist street of Amsterdam, outside of the central trainstation that leads to the major shopping streets, thousand of people passing him by, trying to get somewhere, while he, he just stands there.

[Artman]

Along the lines that Monique just said, have you thought about writing a book about your experiences? I've read several of your posts. You can write, and your experiences on the street could make for interesting reading.

J.K. Rowling, the woman who wrote "Harry Potter" was divorced and living on public assistance when she outlined the entire H.P. series.

I know that her story is the exception, not the rule, but writing would be a productive use of your time until some other avenue opens for you.

[Monique]

And you DO know the earnings of Stephen King.. [o)]

I think it is an excellent idea, the same as Socrates on the marketplace, only a tat more modern.. I wonder how many markets there are in Canada anyway?

[Monique]

I think you just sold your first few books [:D]

[t)] <- me! artman -> [:))]

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Artman, Monique Thanks for the support, I already wrote a "book" years back. That's another story altogether.

Humm, why not just try this as an "exercize in understanding" as opposed to actually finding me, personally, solutions. The understanding being what people have to go through sometimes, through no fault of there own.

Oh Yes, just to keep one part perfectly clear, I mention the Supreme Court of Canada, the Justices thereof were/are the only ones who had/have treated me with the respect of acknowledgment, so to be sure there is no "Derrogation of Repution" towards the Court, there is NONE intended, un-intended, meant, implied, tacit, or to be assumed, as it simply isn't there! They remain to me, as they started out with me, Faultless Thanks!

[Artman]

Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons


Humm, why not just try this as an "exercize in understanding" as opposed to actually finding me, personally, solutions. The understanding being what people have to go through sometimes, through no fault of there own.


Understood.

(But it still sounds like your life would make for interesting reading. [t)] Very intriquing little snips coming through in your posts.)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Artman
(SNIP) (But it still sounds like your life would make for interesting reading. [t)] Very intriquing little snips coming through in your posts.) (SNoP)
AHHHHhhhhh, if you only knew........... [o)] [a)] [:)]


There is so much I 'cannot tell', (At least not yet) and there is so much (more) I can, YEOW a ToE too!

[Andy]

What was this thread about anyway?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Andy
What was this thread about anyway?
Hummm, I suspect (but it is only a suspicion) that if you look at the t-i-t-l-e or read the "initial posting", you should be able to figure it out for yourself! [6)] [a)] [o)]

[Andy]

Lol

[Monique]

Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Humm, why not just try this as an "exercize in understanding" as opposed to actually finding me, personally, solutions. The understanding being what people have to go through sometimes, through no fault of there own. I can understand, I've seen children wrongfully being taken away from parents by the government and locked up in institutions, so called 'child protection'. Even the best lawyer won't be able to argue against such institutions.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So, apparently some people don't get this writing, it is about starting back up from the bottom of the ladder, at 47 years of age, with nothing to assist to that end.

When This arose in Calgary, for the first time in my life, it worked out simply, inasmuch as the organization in Calgary was well set up to deal with homeless people, and how to re-establish them in society, if they wanted that.

This means that, firstly, the immediate needs (Services) were met, inasmuch as they gave us a place to sleep, a place to eat, there were laundry machines that you could use (free) for washing your clothes, and there were shower facilities for washing yourself.

I was bussed to a warehouse, every evening, (my choice) to sleep on a mat, in that warehouse, with ~200 other people. You needed to supply your own bed linens, I had a sleeping bag, so it was simple enough for me.

Next was work, they had a "Work Office" at the Downtown drop in centre (where I ate) that ran by lottery (pick a number to await any possibility of incoming work, I got # 1 on my first try) so you could be on a list for work, if available. Calgary was booming a bit while I was there so they had lots of work, and I was sent out first day, to be paid daily (supposedly) by my employer. They, the downtown drop in centre, would also assist with little things like sandwiches for your lunch if they had the extra food available.

Within eleven (11) days I had enough money to acquire a room in a rooming house. The person I worked for was helpful, in little ways, but it was even then clear enough, it was in his own self interest that he acted.

This is a short explanation of how I started back out again in Calgary, and it belies several realities of the experience, the obviousness of the fact of the feelings of Violence, and Fear, that permeated the Drop in Centre, palpable feelings.

Calgary is a city of 800,000 + people with a reported (at that time) homeless population of roughly 4000 or about 0.5% (that is a "disgustingly stated" Good figure, good as it is only 0.5%, disgusting if you are one of those 0.5%) and has established the requisite services to deal with the people who are the homeless.

Here in Kingston the situation is somewhat different, as the base population size is smaller, the number of homeless is smaller, and there are more people dealing with "low incomes" as problem, then the problems that I got to see in Calgary.

Here there is no permanent shelter to live in, a winter one opens up on Nov 17 to allow us to get "In from the Cold" and that will permit me to stay there from 8 pm to 8 am, showers and laundry facilities are available there, and sometime even food!

There are two other shelter options, but both of them permit only a five night stay (without justification) and they require "sixty clear days" passage before they will let you back in, again.


There is so much more, WOW!

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

It was easier in Calgary to secure lodgings as the amount of money that I needed was ~ $150.00 as that would pay the rent on a room, for two weeks, which was what the owner wanted to start out.

Here in Kingston with a housing rental market that has a < 1% vacancy rate, finding a place is a bit more of a challenge.

While trying on Welfare I had to use the "Intent to Rent form" provided by welfare, and that its the 'whistle word' for the landlords telling them that you are a recipient of welfare, hence all of what they have learned over the years about welfare tenants kicks in. Some said things like, "Well, we'll want a $200.00 dollar deposit to fill out those forms" (They know you only get $195.00) others you can hear the change in attitude, over the phone, when you use say you have the "Intent to rent.." and many other things like that.

But it is not totally against the landlords that they behave in the ways that they do. Having been one myself who has had to clean rooms, after people have left, having heard about some of the ones around here, the mountains of garbage left, and the needles, makes cleaning it a "Bio hazard", so how could you fault the "Once (perhaps more) burned"?

And it isn't as if the Sensation of 'violence and fear' that I felt in the Calgary center, is the faulting of anyone, other then the very nature, and structure, of sociality, as many of the people who end up needing to use these type of services, are people who have just been released from prisions.

If you buy that line about how you will "do your time and pay for your crime", WOW, it ain't like that, you come out of prison, if you don't have assistance, you is gonna wait till it gets there, with no money, no place to live, no food, assistance, nothing if you cannot figure it out really fast, and society is stacked against you.

No, I have never been in prison, but I have spent a fair bit of time in the presence of many a person who has, and gotten to see, and somewhat feel, what society does towards these people when they get out...it isn't pretty, and they are really, generally, (if they don't either get or find the assistance they need) pushed back towards the only thing that ever worked for them, life of crime, and the Circuit of imprisoning. (heard that it's best to get a winter sentance)

Very educational experiances these, and more, any questions? answers?

[Monique]

One time, about two years ago I saw a documentary at the Detroit Institute of Arts, Film Theater.

It was about homeless people in New York living in the underground subway system, there was one guy filming the whole thing. I think he actually had the habit of becoming 'homeless' once in a while to appreciate the things he had going for him.

Anyway, so he knew the places where homeless people hang out so he decided to make a film about it.

I was amazed by the people living there, there was one guy who had lost his family and his house in a fire.. without money he ended up on the street. Throughout the documentary this was not told, you got to know the person, very cheerfull and mischievous in a good way, resourcefull, he made his own house from scrap down in abandoned subway tunnels, where he complained about people stealing his 'posessions', merely makeshift objects. Finally when he start telling the story of how he became homeless (reluctantly) a world opened up: homeless people needn't be criminals and anyone can easily end up the same way. I believe this guy actually had a good job and lost it after a depression due to the fire.

The issue also came up that people would commit petty theft and make sure they were caught before winter started, a small crime with a sentence long enough to last the winter. But this one guy was released early, since the law inforcement knew the purposs of the crime..

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

That's a bit like one of the people I met in Calgary, good card player, good math mind, couldn't get past binge drinking though. Had had an appartement, but lost it when he lost his job from a bout of 'the drink', same cycle, repeat till, well, he may still be doing it I don't know.........didn't really seem to have the coping skills needed to 'keep enough together' as to be able to handle the complexities of modern life.

[Nereid]

So how are you doing now, Mr Parsons? What are your goals for the next few days/weeks/until the end of winter?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Nereid
So how are you doing now, Mr Parsons? What are your goals for the next few days/weeks/until the end of winter?
I'm surviving, thank you, and that would be my 'goal', as well, survival. (no, Not Sarcastically, truly.....)

That basically entails the continuance of my "daily agenda" being established by the soup kithcen's schedules, some time at PF as access permits.....(this is a rock bottom production rate, 1543 posts since end of March, for me...sorta.....) and well, sleeping(?) perhaps, library napping sessions, who knowS??

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Just FYI, since I started "Camping" here in Kingston, I've been here for 25 months, take off ~5 for time in shelters and you get ~20 months, at a rate of ten miles a day, (five in/five out) thirty days a month (avg), equals about 6000 miles of riding, I have biked the equivalent of across the Country of Canada, just riding into Kingston, and back out, each day.

Since I started on PF 3.0, in late March, I have biked ~1500 miles, the last time I did that I arrived in Carman Manitoba, this time I can't seem to get anywhere, ([6)]) other then Kingston, ([6)]) sorta like "Ground Hog Day" the movie, without the woman, the money and the food, just the every morning/day like every other morning/day.....sorta...

As for the rest, well it is by the Grace of God, and of the Head of State of Canada, that the work was as employable, in the world, that it apparently was/has served.

That the representation of the Peoples of Canada deems it that they do NOT reply, never correspond, hide in the wells of dark willful ignorace, little I can do about that.........apparently(?).. but you can get to know them for what they truly are, by this example of them!
(The Canadian Government, representative of the Canadian Peoples)

[russ_watters]

Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
You constructive critism, isn't, you would want for me to "see a therapist", why?? do they need to learn something from me?? cause I can assure you they would NOT be able to help me, a lawyer, perhaps, but definitely NOT a therapist, OYE! I haven't posted in this thread before and I will freely admit to not understanding your predicament, HOWEVER, I believe I understand what Artman was saying and can expand:

The way I see it you have two choices - they are the same choices everyone has regarding some bad thing happening in their past:

1. Try to correct it or otherwise deal with it.
2. Let it go and take a different path.

Choice 1 in your case apparently requires a lawyer. Choice 2 you may be able to do on your own, but if not, a therapist (or a friend you can talk to) might be able to help.

Everyone has been in this kind of situation, though obviously the magnitude varies (including me - I've moved on from mine but it still haunts me). The choice is always about the same. I realize however that that doesn't make the choice easy, nor does it make the right answer always the same (or mean there always is a right answer). Given your current situation though, I would speculate that there is a better path than the one you are taking now.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

choice #1 is (sorta/maybe) being worked upon.....
choice #2 been there, done that?

"Letting it go" sorta isn't an option, not in my lifetime, if it isn't somehow resolved.

Currently, I am aware that I have choices, but not really, as all of the choices are limited, having that particular situation resolved opens up all of the choices, so much more, that it is (would be) patently stupid to attempt to proceed without it!

All I seem to be facing is an irresponcible Prime Minster who is unwilling to make "The Expression of Gratitude of the Peoples of Canada" that he is required to make, on behalf of the Citizens of the Country. His current representation of them (The Peoples of Canada) is as a bunch of un-gratefull, in-gracious, egocentric, selfish, Obnoxiously-Arrogant-Snobs, something that, (although I am rather certain that there would be one or two in the entire country) IS NOT a TRUE representation of the people of this country, probably more just of himself (his Ego!) as he has been pinned in the press as notorious for making his junior party memebers (Junior Ministers) wait upon/for him.

He (the PM of canada) make decisions, and agree's to give them what they want/need for their riding, and then, apparently, loves to make them wait, needlessly(?), and ignorantly(?), just to press his power upon them.

Some kinda guy, probably comes up with the "Well I did it, didn't I" at the end, as to make certain you cannot say anything about him not acting, cause "he did it" in the end, right??
(doesn't care about anyones else's time, only his is important)

That was in one of the articles that I had read about this person's "Leadership style". He's retiring, well, no one seems to know just when, and he loves to do that too!

If you figure it out well, In the amount of Money that apparently was saved by the Canadian taxpayer, (by the GIFT of writing I made to/through this country) ~$40 million, I PAID for this Person's (The Prime Minster of Canada) ENTIRE 40 YEAR SERVICE CAREER, (plus retirement, PLUS CHANGE LEFT OVER, LOTS!!!!) and as his JOB, as Prime Minster, wherein He is required, BY LAW, to make the "Representations of the Gratitude's of the Poeples of Canada" as they cannot make it themselves, nor do they ("the people" aside/outside from/of the court, and the government) even know about it, as they (The Government) will not even so little as admit to it......

This, to me, is a disgusting Man!

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

There is also the simplicty that this man was the Minister of Justice in Canada (in his fourty {40} year political history) and that his party, the Liberal Party of Canada, has (apparently) attempted this kind of legislation (restricting pedophilic artworks) before, it failed, as the problem of "Works of the Imagination" had been, unbeknownst to me, a real pernicious problem on the face of the planet in the legal speaking communities that use the English language.

Consider simply that this guy is a lawyer, and maybe he is simply ashamed/jealous/envious of the fact that he was 'Bested' by moi. (it was God's Grace that allowed me that, NOT my Ego!)

There is also the manner of history inasmuch as the government was following a pathway that many governments follow, pass the law, and then hope (and wait) till someone tries to get it changed by a challenge through the Courts. This allows the law to "stand" for as long as it takes, for citizens who care, to amass the money to go fight it, psuedo law sorta, and once it is overturned, in a legal challenge, they simply rewrite it, in another wording, to try that pathway again, cycle, re-cycle, re-re-cycle..........

[PrudensOptimus]

Can someone translate the first post please?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So, my stating the above, "bested by Moi" is NOT a manner that I, personally, think in, cause to me to state something like that, is arrogant because it is patently false!

Yes, I, By the Grace of God, did come up with a solution to a perniscious International legal problem respecting the "Rights of the General Public V Pedophiles" and am the 'first' one to do that.

But clearly I had/have advantages, in my ignorance of the law inasmuch as I, being outside of the field, was NOT subjected to the intimidational forces of the "Water Cooler" talk amongst lawyers, people in the legal system, that would be making very clear the extent of "other" law that such a definition would need cover, without changing any of it! a very humbling and Intimidating concept, to be sure.

Never mind the Simplicity that this man is a trained Lawyer, not a chance I could best him at the Law, not in any kind of real contest (lest it be a court case and (provable) truth is on my side) of legal Knolwedge, he'd whomp my Butt.

So, this changes little for what this thread started out to be, sorta, but it is a venue of speech, Free speech, soooo......

The solution itself is simply a "Proof", in a manner of speaking, even though, normally, a Court cannot accept the unsubstantiated testimony of one individual as a proof, ordinarily, this circumstance is, and was, different, as the work itself, when read, reveals somthing of the inside of yourself, how an "assemblage of your understanding", (words) fits together, and when sequenced out properly, illustrate the function of the flowthrough of information in a human's "Realm of the imagination", thus rendering that expression "Works of the Imagination" as a 'self description'.

This is (some) of how I got.......here???

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by PrudensOptimus
Can someone translate the first post please?
Why? don't you understand English? would it have been better if I had put it in French for you?

[Zantra]

OK now I'm curious as to what exactly you used to do. I've been around since before march, and I haven't a clue what your story is(granted I have periods of time where I wasn't reading here). So mayhap you could englighten us with your story so we could better know, and perhaps even offer some semmblence of informed advice?

Based on what you've said you were not a lawyer, but some kind of advocacy group activist? You seem to be intimately familiar with the legislation in Canada, so I'm definitely intrigued.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Zantra
(SNIP) Based on what you've said you were not a lawyer, but some kind of advocacy group activist? You seem to be intimately familiar with the legislation in Canada, so I'm definitely intrigued. (SNoP)
Some of that gets more personal then I want to get here, but no, no advocacy group, simply one individual, me.

A friend, I had just recently met, in Calgary, challenged me one day, sorta telling me; "If you think your so smart solve this one", and then proceeded to explain the John Robin Sharpe case and how Sharpe lawyer was attempting to obtain the legal right to produce pedophilic pictures (artworks/drawings) from under the "Charter of Rights" (and Freedoms) here in Canada.

His thrust was using an expression "Works of the Imagination", and he (the lawyer) contended that the legal system was acting like the "Mind Police" in policing the (artistic) "Works of the Imagination" that Mr. Shapre had produced. He also conteded that Mr. Sharpe had the legal right to produce such works, and was attempting to get the Courts to agree to that, as to protect Mr. Sharpes rights under "Freedom of Expression", thus showing that the law, in that case, was unjust, and needed to be struck down/invalidated.

Because of the rights of the present owner of the copyrights, I cannot reproduce what I wrote, sorta anywhere, ('cept in the defence of my reputation!) so I cannot show you how that Issue, (works of the Imagination) central to that case, was removed completely by what I wrote.

Does that help?

[chroot]

So you're a pedophile?

- Warren

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by chroot
So you're a pedophile?

- Warren
Ha ha hahahahahahahahahahaha

Not a Chance! God's Grace, I am the guy who helped in stopping it!

Actually, Artist! as it is/was my knowledge of artwork that assisted in my explaining "Imaginations" functioning, flowthrough of 'words and pictures'.

[chroot]

So what is the point of this thread, if you won't even tell us what "happened to you?"

- Warren

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by chroot
So what is the point of this thread, if you won't even tell us what "happened to you?"

- Warren
I have told what happened to me, NOTHING, (Government has never responded!) that is what I protest, but that is followed by the simple reality of employment, and the consequential details of all of that, and as I put it in the beginning of this thread, someone seemed to think that all I needed to do was to get a job, doing just that isn't anywheres near as simple as they seem to think, that was what I had wanted to help them to realize, it ain't so easy to get back up from some places............along those lines

[chroot]

So you had some bright idea about pedophiles, and the government didn't respond. And? Somehow this led to you living in a tent?

- Warren

[PrudensOptimus]

Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Why? don't you understand English? would it have been better if I had put it in French for you?

OK, type your first post in French, and I'll let Babelfish to translate it into English.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by PrudensOptimus
OK, type your first post in French, and I'll let Babelfish to translate it into English.
As I had suspected, your request was redundant, you already have the services of a translator, (well suited to you, I would Imagine) "Babelfish" you call them, isn't it?

Salute! (French, means BYE!)(....sorta)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So, the Employment part/aspect, how the heck could I ever get a Job, as something like, "a writer" perhaps(?) if everything, and anything, that I write, NEVER-EVER sees the Light of Recognition public OR private?

Humm.....

As for the Prime Minster 'Whomping my Butt' at law, Humm, well he is 69 years old, been a Politician for Fourty (40) years, I am 48* so I was Eight years old (8)* when this guy started out his career in the 'crafting', and 'enacting', and 'adminstrating' of the "Living Tree of the Law", so when it comes to 'Legal knowledge", if he can't "Whomp my Butt" somethings wrong!

It has been here, at PF, that I got my first "Public Accreditation" actually, the 'Humor Award' that I got.....

I've mentioned the distances that I bicycle before, and there is some discrepancy 'tween the last time, and this time. Simple, sorta, my inability to accertain to any more accurate degree that actual distance, short of counting the rotations of the Crank, and ensuring pedalling pressure all the way.....the pedal pressure part I have had to do, (insert small statement about air/wind resistence.....Ignore it??? WHAT???) as when pedalling "Into the wind" all of the force that you apply to forward motion is immediatly applied in a counteracting measure of wind resistence. (A ten Kph cycle speed, into a ten Kph wind, gives you the equivalant of riding into a twenty kph wind, faster you push forward, more you increase the resistence)

Ahhhh yes, the "I can't tell you that/those part(s)", Humm, lived with other people in my life, and have a requirement of respecting their privacy rights, not to publish a "one sided story" on the internet, even if, By the Grace of God, I can do Justice to their side of it, it just isn't fair without there prior consent.....soooo

But I can tell you things like this, see, when you do something like this, (The Sharpe Case thing) are ignored by the responcible party in Government, then attempt to seek the attention of 'Said' Government, you need to tell people what you have done in order to be able to go about it, in doing that, some of those people will believe you, (as the truth is convincing) and some of them, in believing, will attempt to turn you into their prey......soooo, when you get to that point, in your own life, you will know what I mean, if Not, Praise God!

*Edit 47 years old, see 'end' (not for long) post for answer!(?)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
Actually, Artist! as it is/was my knowledge of artwork that assisted in my explaining "Imaginations" functioning, flowthrough of 'words and pictures'.
Actually, it is more like Artist/writing/science.....or an Artistic person, who writes his thoughts down, (better @ talking) and thinks in a "Scientific Manner" seeking Accurate Knowledge through Judiscious Observation of Reality(ies), and reporting on it, that's the 'un-accredited' writer part......Hummmm, makes me wonder, sometimes........??!!??

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by chroot
So you had some bright idea about pedophiles, and the government didn't respond. And? Somehow this led to you living in a tent?

- Warren

Yes I helped in a Constitutional challenge that went through the Supreme Court of Canada concerning a Pedophile seeking to gain "legal right", assisting to stop that by offering Proof (sort of) that "Works of the Imagination" was, well, "self descriptive", (in the end) as a legal defence.

Some of the rest I cannot (can, should NOT!) tell, see the posting above as to why.

[wasteofo2]

*ignore this post*

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by wasteofo2
*ignore this post* WHY?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

I actually wrote this for 'somewhere's else', as posting, but can use it here just the same with minor alterations that you will never know about (*Insert Evil laugh*here*....just kidding) so that the points of it are still relevant, hopefully.

Loren Booda had a Thread (http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=9135) asking if anyone in the forums had ever done something 'noteworthy' sort of, thing/type, I had watched it, to see if anyone said anything, nothing.... Hummmm.............

Just in case you aren't quite to certain what a "Previously Unrecognized, Self evident Truth" look(s/ed) like, there is a thread in "Astro and Cosmo" (http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=846&highlight=proof+and+cause+and+gravity)* that was titled "The Proof of the Cause of Gravity" (Caps? the "the"....Idaknow!) in which, after taking a 'Newton' (or two) over the head, we finally arrived at their understanding of Gravitie's activities, within the planet, thus we came to my explaining, to them, the measure of mechanical pressure, and the manner of numerical explaination (R=5, R=2) that resolved the reality such that it was clear enough that their method of 'perception' was in-operable as to create the known, and proven, pressurization, and that was (had been) the question that needing explanation.

Basically the current theory says that gravity lessons towards the center, the R=5 R=2 explaination 'demonstrates' how that cannot give rise to the already observed/know pressurization of the core....

That fact of 'mechanical pressure' that I used, is "Currently Known Knowledge", just that it seems that I was the first to point it out...in this application, Previously Unrecognized/Self Evident Truth

There are some others in there, from Myself, God's Grace! you see, not a function of ego.......self.

So this is/was something that goes against currently recognized convention, (Current theory) is provable, (and proves "current theory" must be wrong!) but is ignored as per reactions from people.

It is along the lines of "instructions to a game" that had been played upon me, wherein everone is instructed to act as if "they had known it all along", as to not look stupid, (in front of me) and to make certain that I didn't think to highly of myself as to become 'egotistical/egocentric' about my knowledge.

Kinda 'dumb/idiotic' Game to play inasmuch as I had remarked to people that getting to this level of abiltiy requires that you admit to what you "don't know" similarily to admitting to "what you do", from that point of perspective you can more easily know whether (or not) the knowledge you diseminate (at that time) is Currently "known knowledge" (or not) such that, you simply end up with people, openly, (and known to me) lieing to my face.

It can be fun playing with an open faced liar....especially whn it is provable that they have just lied....

Ain't life fun!?

BTW, I had even included a Hint at more in the signature that I had used at that time....this one;
Originally formulated by Moi
¤Spark le and ¯Shine!!

Anyone (ShhhGreg) got a guess at just what that really means.....Huh?

*If you want only what you "need to read" (Sorta) Start Introduced Here (http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=846&perpage=12&highlight=proof%20and%20cause%20and%20gravity&pagenumber=23) or directly to the point Here (http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=846&perpage=12&highlight=proof%20and%20cause%20and%20gravity&pagenumber=27) (sixth post down, cause your at page 28 now!)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted 12/01 by Moi
As for the Prime Minster 'Whomping my Butt' at law, Humm, well he is 69 years old, been a Politician for Fourty (40) years, I am 48* so I was Eight years old (8)* when this guy started out his career in the 'crafting', and 'enacting', and 'adminstrating' of the "Living Tree of the Law", so when it comes to 'Legal knowledge", if he can't "Whomp my Butt" somethings wrong! (Sans SNIP/SNoP as I cite myself...)

* Wrote this Monday, had biked 'out and back' to the tent, twice, on Friday, missed the only meal on Saturday, cause of Friday's rain, Sat's snow, then Ate Sunday evening, (first that day) biked 'in and out', then biked in Monday (tired, walked a little) and had noticed late Monday that I had experianced some "Head Rushes" from in-adequate dietary intake...not enough food, affects the brains workings, so I slipped at the age thing, then again, generally, my mind tends to start thinking of my approaching age change well before it happens.

(as to acclimatize myself to the change?)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So lets see, recent history, Biking in the snow and the rain, of recent, driving blizzard the other day and I had to go back to the tent to get the "laundry" off of the line, ("laundry" here means wet blankets) as the field had had opportunity to freeze, (the ground froze) after we had had some rain, so the rain that fell after the 'freezing' couldn't penetrate the saturated 'frozen' ground, and resulted in a slight flooding of my tent, wetting the 'bedroll' that I keep there.

It got colder again so everything froze, (the wet blankets) but the wind , with the stuff out on the line, will subliminate the ice out of the blanket ("freeze drying") and I will eventually get back to drier apparatus and the aditional bonus of the possibility that the freeze drying of the 'items' might result in a lower, (or a ridance{?}) of the mold that has been a plague to the air in the tent, for some time now.

I'll tell again, as I have said it before, it you don't think that air resistence counts? ride a bicycle! Want some really good exercise (that stimulates circulation!) as to enhance cranial perfomance? Ride a bicycle....in the snowbank! InTo the Wind!

YAAAAAAAAHWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWHO!!

Gotta go back out there again, sorta daily ritual of riding a bike (as long as it holds up, in winter's abusive 'clime) as I haven't gotten anything really dry yet. The forecast for the Kingston area includes a rising temperature that is coming with rain, so I "bagged" all of the stuff in the tent, sorta in plastic, and hope that, if it floods, again, that the frozen blanket (that I cracked in two to get into the bag, yesterday) doesn't get even futher wet.

Least I don't need to ride in the snowbank, the sides of the roads are cleared now, (takes a day) and aside from that I have "shelter time" so inside, in a bed, breathing warm air (like everyone else) while I sleep....in a room with 'X' other people....

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Well, been out, (and back) 'couple' more times, frozen Blanket in a bag becomes wet blanket in a plastic bag, noting that the humidity in the tent now seems less then outside (cause it's raining outside) and the humidity that develops on the inside of the tents sides is still "wetting my back".

Forecasts are sorta 'cold' now, 'warming', but 'raining...coming', so no chance to dry out anything, and no real opportunity to get it to a washing machine, least not yet.....(Uggh the smell!)

Gotta go, (back out too) make sure it doesn't collapse under the weight of any snow that falls, cause it will.....

[Monique]

You are still staying in that tent.. aren't there shelters where you could go to? Hang in there..

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Monique
You are still staying in that tent.. aren't there shelters where you could go to? Hang in there..
Thanks for the concern, but I am in a shelter at present.
(Mentioned that, above...)*

The reason for the tent report is because that is where I need return sooner or later, that and all of my clothing (what little I have left is there) so it is getting "aromatisized" (self generating at this point) and 'whatever else' occurs in all of the shifting temperatures, (soon to occur, again) and today I need to go back out (maybe) to remove the snow that is falling....ever live in a shelter with X + other people?? Not exactly the "social situation" that I had been, from my life's history, accustomed to...nevermind the one(s) who would wish to use this opportunity to 'force' themselves upon me as "My friend(s)"....how do you tell people that you do NOT want to talk, without talking?

EDIT *Ooops! thought I had mentioned it before, guess not...sorry

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Just came in from walking around, found out today (as I haven't been keeping up with the schedule changes) that there is NO food today, nor tomorrow, and probably not for the day after that too, but I don't know that far ahead just yet.

The early (AM) meal only returns on the 5 of Jan, the other place, I haven't a clue what has happened there...Hummm this oughtabe fun!

P.S. (Don't worry...it really doesn't help...worrieing, that is) I'll know better tomorrow, I guess(?)!*%

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Ahhh got food at the shelter, and cereal this morning, so it ain't so bad..so far...

Wanted to tell it yesterday, Happy New Years, but two sorta problems, one is that if I celebrate all of the festivals/rituals/religous ceremonial events that are available in a year, well, it is every day, all of the time, the other was the timing of it in conjunction with telling you I wasn't finding food.

I had wanted to tell you it yesterday cause I wanted you to realize that in my character I could still do that, even in light of that kind of news, in my own life, cause that kind of news isn't really all that bad it's is still not a death sentence, plus respecting everyone else's right to still enjoy their own lives, is kinda nicer, I think/thought....just had wondered if I cuold have pulled out the emotive in type, looked inside and found it, just didn't try typing it out cause of the other restraints upon me, presently.

Yikes [o)] is this looong.......not "Instant Messaging" now is it..."Sup?"/

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Artman
Along the lines that Monique just said, have you thought about writing a book about your experiences? I've read several of your posts. You can write, and your experiences on the street could make for interesting reading.
J.K. Rowling, the woman who wrote "Harry Potter" was divorced and living on public assistance when she outlined the entire H.P. series.
I know that her story is the exception, not the rule, but writing would be a productive use of your time until some other avenue opens for you. Sorry for the looooong wait for a responce (musta missed this one) but have done that already, back in 1991 and that is what precipitated some of the problems that ensuied...

But what I had recently noticed (in Canadian News) was the police Raid on a reporters home, and all of the newspeople, up in arms about "their Rights", how their right to report on the things that the government does, that are wrong, and how they and there sources are to be protected....Weeeehoo is this a reek of double duplicity if I ever had to tolerate a maloderous aroma, the stench of "We protect you, so protect us" just arises from the kinds of discourse that comes out of events like this, and all the while I get to remember the Person on the Phone whom, after I had explained a little of just what it was that I had accomplished, asked me "Oh and whats newsworthy about that?" ahhh how I would like to send in the Swat team to raid that idiots brain (not really) see if there is anything there other then the ongoing Conspiracy of Canadian society to further my imprisonment and my deprivation of accreditation by willful Ignorance....and they wonder why I end up in the place where I want to tell people how much is SUCKS to live in this country...(The {Imagined/heard} retort: Oh no! you can't say that! just look at all you get, you get to eat and you get to stay in shelters and stay warm, why aren't you grateful?)

BTW that is what had been going on in my life, a form of 'Identity theft', and it is now in the hands of the "Representatives of The poeples of Canada", and they do......? (Nothing!)

It's been in their Hands before, offical, legal complaint,...politic'd

[Evo]

Mr Robin Parsons, can you fill me in on the missing information prior to the first post on this thread?

You really are an enigma...

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

You mean the 43 years prior?

[Andy]

You really shouldnt get him started Evo. I got in to trouble just for trying to find out what this enigma was all about.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Evo you could try reading some of this thread In this Forum (http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=1084&highlight=Personally+and+wronged) (please Do NOT re-start it) as it might be able to fill you in a little more, if not, please tell me as I can probably find more....after all. I've got like "Lots and lots" of posts in these forums...over 2000!

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Lets see, served My own country, ~30 million people, Apparently, by The Grace of God, and the Queen of England, served in more places in the World then I could Name....And if you look in todays edition of the local newspaper (Kingston Whig standard) you will see, front page, a picture of one of the Homeless people that I shelter with, his second (recent) appearance in the local paper, and in respect of what I had mentioned (the post) above, concerning journalists wanting their rights (to keep their sources private) respected because it is a defense of the Rights of All of the citizens in the Country, that a FREE PRESS reports (tattles) on the member(s) of the Government who don't behave/act/re-act properly with respect to their obligations concerning citizen interactions, and the very clear BIAS/PREDJUDICE that is being excersized against myself (by WAAAAAY more then just the local paper as I have tried with MANY Canadian News Organizations) that is aiding and abetting the 'government' to remove, and strip, from me, my right to choose for myself, well, anyone can figure out how something like this, if it was going on in your life, would PISS YOU OFF (just a {little} bit) right?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Humm apparently the guy who was in the paper yesterday, got something like four (4) offers of assistance....me, Ha, couldn't even get the legal system to function without (Social) prejudice, in what I had attempted to persue to have some of what was going on, in the past of my life, stopped, it didn't work, cause I was lied to, again, and again, and again, and at this point, it seems that their is NO ONE, (else, aside from me) in the Entirety of this country, who feels/thinks they have an Iota of responcibility towards me...what a crock of.....(deleted)....What a clear misrepresentation of the people of this country, by the representation/representatives of this country NO reflection at all....then again it is a social conspiracy so there are "Canadian citizens" (other then just the politicians) involved, deeply...

Just to keep certain things clear, the Supreme Court of Canada Acknowledged what they could, in the manner that they the Justices are allowed, or permitted, to acknowledge such things (their hands are 'handcuffed' behind their respective backs) inasmuch as the acknowledged reciept of My envoy of my "Opinion" as that is all that they are permitted to do, inasmuch as it was/is the subjective attestament of one person, and cannot be acredited, By them, in any other manner....it befalls the Rest of the Federal Government of Canada to pick up the trail and finish the Job....just that, they profit more from keeping me un-known, after all, it is information that I have, that is important, and precious, and that is much easier to steal then any material object, all you need to steal is the accreditation for being the Origin of the message....steal the messengers credentials and the messenger is no longer known as such, (I have been "kept hidden" longer then most of you will ever know....) someone supplants them...

This all really (expletives deleted, respect for PF, and it's readers)!

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Interesting to me, the last number of years in my life, can't even do anything to help myself past working for someone else, can't start out to work for myself cause any time I do I need to contact "someone" (whomever) and that starts it out all over agin, "Who is this guy?" "how come nobodies ever heard of him before" followed by either, they "cannot help", or watch it 'fly out the window' of the inability to prove anything, absent of having a reliable witness (Ha hahahahahahaha) nearby (hee heheheheheheheheeeee) and "it's a gone befores I knows", it's done! (but I can tell that it has been made gonzo....ain't that stupid, even if the liars that have lied to me, (that I knew where lieing to me, so I didn't tell them that I knew) kept up with the lies, ergo fooled themselves Big TIME! into thinking..."He doesn't know"....Shhhh, "don't tell anyone", "Yes! he does!")

Gotta be one of the most comical of things to watch people intentionally ignore something that keeps attracting their attention, un-intentionally, as well....(sometimes, intentionally other times...past...)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Oh yes, (BTW) "they" have been 'predicting' my imminent demise (2 to 5 years) for the last ten to fifteen (10 - 15) years...so

There is an enormity of things that "they" do, and do not, know, about what really goes on, with me, but I can assure you, some, simply attempt to use 'whatever' they can, against me, no matter what....others have helped, so it isn't simply all bad or one sided...but the helpers have been waaaaaay fewer then the agressors Ahem!

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Hummm one of the other items on the list Paradoxical comedy...the idea that I should, while I am awaiting 'the' (or any) sign of intelligent movement on behalf of the federal Governement of Canada, well, they would like it if I quit smoking...Humm, to quit smoking one of the things that is greatly assistant (and beneficial) is an absence of stressors, tensions and or DISTRACTIONS...humm, this all awaiting any kind of resolution is a GREAT distraction, potetnial for stress and most inportantly, especially the way they like to play this, that they keep you in the dark and un-informed, (to the best of their abilities) generates Anxiety and as anyone who has studied these things to any degree should very well know anxiety and depression are currently thought to the the initiators of smoking in the first place.

Dealing with me, by absenting yourself (from dealing with anything...the cowards method) and hiding simply exacerbates the situation and basically assures that quiting smoking would be even harder for me due to the un-due un-warranted un-needed un-earned stresses and anxieties that this kind of willful ignorance can generate....No I don't really suffer the anxiety that I used to have as a child, Ya learn over time, (just that I seem to still have some Huge gossip {idiot} attempting "story control" on me, ergo they will tell you "why I act the way I do", it will "look" like it, but it is nothing more then them fooling you...and you falling for it, in ignorance! and absence! of any kind of fact verification due to them telling you "not to tell me" {about them, I already know!} as to keep them in "story" control...this is a gossip! nothing more, a malicious! and abusive! gossip!, so stop aiding and abetting them!) and it has followed, in my life, the quitting drinking, and the ceasation of the 'other' stuff....absence of distractors and anxiety inducements would, simply, assist...anyone could figure this out, the government already should be smart enough to recognize the consequences of their own actions right? they should realize that their inaction is simply one of the things that furthers the time of my smoking cause it ain't something I am going to move up on the list to attempt to resolve without this other situation being resolved first, way to much possibility for anxiety stress and simply the distractions of the mind as I have a need of this being resolved....dislike unfinished business....

Anyways, shows that the government is working against it's on better ends, sorta like 'them' sitting back, and awaiting me suing them, planning failures and planning to make a real dirty ugly mess out of something that was simply nicely done and assistive to the entire Country, and all simply to play (Liberal) 'party' politics, not a lick of the "Countries Best interests" at hand/heart/mind...NOTHING!

Just passed the three year aniversery mark, Jan 29, Sucks to live in this country, willfully ignorant specious observers clearly intentionally acting in a manner that is contrary to just about every principal of good government and democratic rule that you could think of, just that, well, most Canadians don't know right, ha, ha, ha, not as much as they would like you to think....country full of willful conspirators...don't give a damn who they screw...

P.S. Have you noticed how much of an issue "homelessness" has become lately in Canada? do you wonder why....?

[jimmy p]

how do you afford to buy cigarettes?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by jimmy p
how do you afford to buy cigarettes? With difficulty, to say the least...don't buy them actually (and I don't steal them either!) but it's not a good topic, ya figure?....

That question did arise in the interviews with the homeless, recently, here in Kingston, apparently they responded to a letter to the editor that asked the same question, of one of the guys, in one of the pictures, as he had had a smoke in his hand, one that the camera man (someone like that, from 'the crew') had apparently bought for him... they are apparently in a local forum, through the local newspaper "Kingston Whig Standard" here in Kingston, in the feedback section, but I haven't read any of it....

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So the product is thought, hence vulnerable to abuse by knowledge, thereof, such that it is effectively taken as It is presented immediately in a way, (Insert {GSS} GIANT SUCKING SOUND!) so the people here would like me to belive that they have ignored me due to: #1) They Like me and #2) is that it is being done "For the Good Of the Country!" hence we discover that the accessories 'at the fact' are, actually, with their above reasons(ing)(ings), aiding and abetting the GSS!...

Humm...

I have to go now, some "friends" of mine have donated some Cigarette butts to me, so I can empty out what is left of the tabacco, and re-roll them, to smoke....Thanks, BYE.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Oh yes, BTW not everyone is guilty of abusing me, not even close, most people's experiancing of me is small, lots of times stuff is given and 'nothing' is the price, (other then the memory) it's been done "freely"....just that, as you begin to approach the root of the problem, well, that became what it was, is it still? (Trust?...No!) (proof? un-needed!) and has waaaaay led to the present situation, plus...

Perhaps you would notice my penchant for time, after all, mine, not unlike yours, is limited...

Where does having "The Right" come from?, well...simple, you earn it!

Now where is that piece of paper?...Huh??...

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

...and the other one, the other day, the Government of Canada is going to "Underpromise and Overpay" (something like that) works really, really well in my life, cause God is the one who has helped me to know that I have enough of the answer to safely be confident enough to admit to it, (or at least to admitting to it as my opinion) hence the appearance of "underpromise" thereafter clearly the overpayment inasmuch as, in explaining it, more comes out (God's Grace!) more then I knew I had, so it ends up appearing as "overpaid"...but that is NO WAY to run a government!
(unless you can prove God is helping you, specifically, as proven by the overpayment, that wasn't there when you made your underestimate...God's Grace I can get away with that....cause, as I clearly keep telling all of you, it is By God's Grace!...and you?)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Heck, if anyone had "bothered" to respond, perhaps the government could have been spared the embarrassment(?)...

[jimmy p]

I dont understand this Underpromise and Overpay malarky...please explain!

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by jimmy p
I dont understand this Underpromise and Overpay malarky...please explain! I read about it in the newspapers, it, apparently, (acording to the paper I saw) was in the 'Canadian Throne Speech'...heres a Search link that brngs you newspaper reports on it....but you will need find the specific words yourself...
O.K.?

*HERE* (http://news.google.ca/news?q=Canadian+throne+speech&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=nn)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Hummm, now I need to go look for that newspaper, that I saw that stated (statement) in.....oye!

[timejim]

Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
So apparently some of the people herein (1? zoob) think that all I have to do is "get a job" which tells me that some of you haven't a clue what it is like to "start back up", from the bottom.

Having arrived in Calgary with $35.00 in my pocket, the clothes on my back, a tent, backpack with change of pants, top(2), shorts and underwear, (no socks!) bout as much as I could carry on a bicycle, I started back up from the bottom, at 43 years of age so's I probably have a better idea of what the problems are, then any of you.

Hence my curiosity is expressed herein inasmuch as I would like to know just how simple/complex you think it is, to "start back" out.

BTW what I did for my country, and it's resultant use around the World, the apparent savings, to the Canadian peoples, of Approx $40,000,000.00 dollars, the redeeming of the legislation from the pit that is was 'perhaps' about to be thrown into, again, hence the assitance in the protection of the children of Canada, are all rendered meaningless by the current Government, so don't wonder 'why' I would rather "do nothing" then give anything to them ever again.

(By extension so am I!!, {Rendered meaningless/worthless/useless} But No, I do NOT feel that way, so don't be stupid, it is simply an acceptance of the clearly expressed belief and practise of/by others)

P.S. if you would wish to start, well, I presently live in a tent, have no money, a bicycle, (and I am 47 now!) and basically nothing else......so, GO for IT!!!

you must have a computer and electricity and maybe a phone line to go online or how else could you post??

[Mattius_]

From what I have read and understood, I ask the question...

Why is recognition important? Isnt the fact that you did something positive for the canadian people enough gratification for you to get back up and do it again?

It may be subjective of me to say, but, you seem to preach being a man of principal more than a man of egocentrism, If that is the case, than why must you be apart of a movement you created? Why cannot the individual suffer, (Toi), for the common good?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Mattius_
From what I have read and understood, I ask the question...
Why is recognition important? Isnt the fact that you did something positive for the canadian people enough gratification for you to get back up and do it again?
It may be subjective of me to say, but, you seem to preach being a man of principal more than a man of egocentrism, If that is the case, than why must you be apart of a movement you created? Why cannot the individual suffer, (Toi), for the common good? Something about working earning an income living a life that is not one of poverty and sufferance needlessly inasmuch as the ability to contribute is NOT something that I should be letting anyone else take credit for as then they would be accreditd at tsomehting they, in truth didn't do, and I end up participating in their lie...not really something I want to do, if it isn't something that I willingly (in accordance with God's will) gave away to them....

It would help me to get a better job, not that that is very viable at this point in time, once they try to make you famous by using word of mouth, (only) sad, and disgusting, what begins to happen to you when Other people dream you are going to be "Rich", (with money) they beset you for whatever they can, and when they find out you have no money, they attempt to punish you for that too...

Aside from which why in the world should I have to suffer needlessly for the common good, (For some other idiots ego!!?) my suffering is NOT for the Common good, it is demonstrative of the Government NOT adhereing to it's required principals in it's interactivity with it's people, it's stated objectives in rule of the Country.

You tell me, serve 30 million people, donate and give away a piece of work that is a part of better then 40 years of your lifes learning, and watch others take accreditation for your work, watch as it is used to serve more places on the planet then you can name, and watch as others take credit for your work, again....that has gone on for more then ten years now, this was a place that I figured that their was just no way I could get Robbed again, certainly NOT right in front of the Supreme Court of Canada, but....

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Just so we keep some of this clear, originaly, Waaaaaay back, I had told the "Government" that I had wanted this to remain PRIVATE, all of it, including their (required) responce to me, cause what I am missing is the ability to Independantly prove that I have done this.

The press worries that the Courts wording of recognition of "my opinion" leaves it too open, to stand alone as a proof, what the other side of the "Twin Towers" of Government (the system used, here in Canada, is seen as "Twin Towers", {Adjudication of law, and Writting [proscribing] of law} in the US it is "Three Branches") has a responcibility to recognize, even if only PRIVATELY, as to ensure that the LEGAL History of the Country, is properly told....that is also one of the very reasons why Members of Parliament are given the protections, from lieing, in the parliament, so that the Truth of it can still come out, without legal recriminations against them, it is to take away the "Fear of the consequences of their Honesty" as only an 'Honest Government' has the 'Right' to Govern, it is also relevant to them 'upholding and maintaining' their individual, and collective, Rights to the Title of "Honorable" Person(s)...something that really isn't what I think of certain ones...but that too, is only a "personal opinion"....

....does that help?

EDIT the other thing that I, personally, note is the absence of support for independant thought...complete and total absence of any willingness to support independant thought....and that, independant thought, is what brought them the answer that served, in the World, so well....no even so little as a word....just willfully ignorant silence when they owe the responce, even if only to tell me "NO!".....

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

apparently, I am about to be banned from these forums, sooo

C:\YA!

[Mattius_]

Why?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Mattius_
Why? Good question answering will simply bring the risk of it back, so if you would excuze me, I would not respond in full to it suffice to say it was an "informational dispute" ...

That stated, and the above about recognition etc. It is in the history of my life that I had the opportunity, God's Grace, to know what Might be coming towards me, inasmuch as it is seeming to me that I could author a omplete T.o.E. hence the idea of fame, is relative, as such an emission from myself would probably bring World Wide recogniton, that is why (partially) I knew that I could take this one, with the Canadian Government, and successfully execute the result privately....still had opportunity/potential for Great Fame, something that I was, neither, looking for, nor shunning, but simply accepting it as it is, or becomes, a responcibility in my life, a social responcibiity........means I have to do it, and, by God's Grace, I know it, and accept it...no problemo...

Anyone tellng you different, is lieing, and there have been a few of those surrounding not me persay, but my life, inasmuch as they seem to have set themselves up as people who "know me" and thereafter abuse me by that insinuated knowledge that is perhaps partially true, yet wholely provable for anything that I wrote (just ask them to see the letter where I stated whatever they are trying to tell you I said, thereafter net postings...Uhmmmm trust adulterability, well, do you trust net generated evidence? but that's another story altogether) and thereafter anything that they would wish to tell you, that I have, supposedly, or purportedly, told them, well you open the door of the 'Lieing gossip' as that is mostly what was spread about me, for many a years...

That's another story all-together, just that it posits a forwarning about people claiming to know me, claiming to be quoteing me, claiming to know my thoughts (Oh ya?....prove it!) people who will use, and abuse, you for there end of getting at me, stopping, and/or impeding me in my quest for a proper venue for the presentation of a T.o.E. over in England/London/Britain (seat/cradle of democracy and democratic right in/for this past millenium) as I has already exhausted all means of venue in the US.....(actually I didn't exhaust them, an American exhausted them for me, but it works out to the same ends, the answer was/is 'NO') and venue in Canada is simply unacceptable, why, heck go back and reread all of what I have written cause you don't see the way my own country is treating me, which only suffices to ensure their exclusion, based upon their willfull ignorance, as attempt at control....soooo

But I can tell you, what they wanted me to know about fame, simple, make someone famous, without their knowing how your 'spreading the word' (of mouth) and you can do a lots of damage to that person, especially if you can get the social ostrasization thing going as has/had been done with/to me, then again I also suffer the lack of $ocialability (Can't be "Social" if you have no Money!) that comes from fame without fortune, added into the beseting of the few (adds quickly) in society that want only for taking whatever they can, from others, anyway they can....and I have had to live with some of them soooo......... (sorta like "Sleeping with the Enemy")

Anyways.....if I don't get banned, perhaps more, later...

[hitssquad]

Originally posted by timejim
you must have a computer and electricity and maybe a phone line to go online or how else could you post??
...From a public terminal.





-Chris

[jimmy p]

Barring you?? Why thats INSANE!!!

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by jimmy p
Barring you?? Why thats INSANE!!! No it's fixed....and the one above,...also, a public library, or a (Nice) Universitie's library....so long as Respect is maintained...(EDIT by me! towards 'them'...The students/faculty/staff etc.)

(lookitthat! 241)

[firefly]

Yippeeeeeee!!!!! What would we do without our One Man Thank Tink of occasional Thunkful persuasion! [:)]

[phatmonky]

Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
So, my stating the above, "bested by Moi" is NOT a manner that I, personally, think in, cause to me to state something like that, is arrogant because it is patently false!

Yes, I, By the Grace of God, did come up with a solution to a perniscious International legal problem respecting the "Rights of the General Public V Pedophiles" and am the 'first' one to do that.

But clearly I had/have advantages, in my ignorance of the law inasmuch as I, being outside of the field, was NOT subjected to the intimidational forces of the "Water Cooler" talk amongst lawyers, people in the legal system, that would be making very clear the extent of "other" law that such a definition would need cover, without changing any of it! a very humbling and Intimidating concept, to be sure.

Never mind the Simplicity that this man is a trained Lawyer, not a chance I could best him at the Law, not in any kind of real contest (lest it be a court case and (provable) truth is on my side) of legal Knolwedge, he'd whomp my Butt.

So, this changes little for what this thread started out to be, sorta, but it is a venue of speech, Free speech, soooo......

The solution itself is simply a "Proof", in a manner of speaking, even though, normally, a Court cannot accept the unsubstantiated testimony of one individual as a proof, ordinarily, this circumstance is, and was, different, as the work itself, when read, reveals somthing of the inside of yourself, how an "assemblage of your understanding", (words) fits together, and when sequenced out properly, illustrate the function of the flowthrough of information in a human's "Realm of the imagination", thus rendering that expression "Works of the Imagination" as a 'self description'.

This is (some) of how I got.......here???

Well I have done some research on the Sharpe case, and am I to follow that you wrote the basis for the original 1993 child pornography law?

I make this assertion based on you mentiong this "going on for 10 years", the Sharpe case, and the quote about victory for children (which was "astounding victory for children" as far as I can find in my searching).
Let me try to piece this together:

-I don't know what you did before this period of time.
-1993 rolls around and you put together a 'proof' to base a law on for determining the difference between an innocent pic of kid in the bathtub and real child porn.
-You offer this to the government in good faith, or perhaps a deal.
-The government screws you. Legislators and lawyers put it together in legal mumbo jumbo, pass it as law, and enjoy their success.
-You mention your solution to the Sharpe case in Calgary (or elsewhere in an earlier time) and someone else (possibly the person you spoke to in Calgary) and they take credit for it (part of me asks whether this is connected to the other person at your Shelter who has been in the paper twice now with offers of assistance. But that could just be me wanting to piece all of your life back to a single point ;) )
-Through outside pressures, and the powers that be, you are made a social leper of some sort.

I don't follow what these pressures were, assuming they were external, and I don't follow exactly who in America has swindled you as well (unless you 1> sent your idea here and a duplicate event happened 2> your work has been used as a foundation for other countries to follow)


Well, let's see what response this generates.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Speaks of the abilities of communication in written English language...
Originally posted by phatmonky
Well I have done some research on the Sharpe case, and am I to follow that you wrote the basis for the original 1993 child pornography law? NO, the law was challenged, starting in the courts in British Columbia, to the Supreme Court of BC, then to the Supreme Court of Canada, I had nothing to do with the writing of the original law...

I make this assertion based on you mentiong this "going on for 10 years", the Sharpe case, and the quote about victory for children (which was "astounding victory for children" as far as I can find in my searching). You are starting to blend together parts of my life in a manner that they are, NOT blended, by myself, nor in the manner that I have told it...the 'ten years' (plus) is/are other things..."Victory for all the Children of Canada..." was the quote I had heard, and read, at and around that time...
Let me try to piece this together:

-I don't know what you did before this period of time.
-1993 rolls around and you put together a 'proof' to base a law on for determining the difference between an innocent pic of kid in the bathtub and real child porn. TOTALLY WRONG
-You offer this to the government in good faith, <--Yup...Nope---> or perhaps a deal.
-The government screws you. Legislators and lawyers put it together in legal mumbo jumbo, pass it as law, and enjoy their success. Again totally wrong
-You mention your solution to the Sharpe case in Calgary (or elsewhere in an earlier time) and someone else (possibly the person you spoke to in Calgary) and they Ahem the government of Canada Took credit for it...the Liberal Party.... take credit for it (part of me asks whether this is connected to the other person at your Shelter who has been in the paper twice now with offers of assistance. But that could just be me wanting to piece all of your life back to a single point ;) ) Nope, and yup
-Through outside pressures, and the powers that be, you are made a social leper of some sort. Actually organized social gossips...et al and the medias complete absence of respecting it's required legal social obligation >> licensed broadcasters after all...
I don't follow what these pressures were, assuming they were external, and I don't follow exactly who in America has swindled you as well (unless you 1> sent your idea here and a duplicate event happened 2> your work has been used as a foundation for other countries to follow) That was 'other work'(s), not this/ (/that...the Sharpe one) particular piece of writing


Well, let's see what response this generates. Hows this?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by phatmonky
(SNIP) Well I have done some research on the Sharpe case, Well, let's see what response this generates. (SNoP) No offence, but, one that would question, either, your patience with yourself, respective of you 'having read' and not taken the time to arrange the presented (by me) thoughts, or one that asks of your reading Comprehension skills inasmuch as (speed?) 'read', but, clearly, not understood, nor assimilated in what is it's presentation, as evidenced by your responce to me....that kind of generated responce....again, no offence [a)]

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

BTW phatmonky my impression(s) of you are not really what you seem to be demonstrating yourself to be, in that last one, but, as that is just my opinon, I could be wrong....but, please, don't try to 'goad' me, cause......
[!:)] then you [*(] , soooo....O.K. [8)] [?] [a)]

[phatmonky]

Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
BTW phatmonky my impression(s) of you are not really what you seem to be demonstrating yourself to be, in that last one, but, as that is just my opinon, I could be wrong....but, please, don't try to 'goad' me, cause......
[!:)] then you [*(] , soooo....O.K. [8)] [?] [a)]

I dont follow. I'm not sure what your impression of me was before. 'Kind of response' was simply a comment from me on poking in the dark trying to catch up on something you have been discussing since long before I joined this board. Pardon me if I missed some points that you hold to be common knowledge (after all, you'd be surpised how much easier it is for you to understand your own posts, and references to other posts, than it is for someone else). I did the best I could with your allusions to other threads, in this thread, and quickly following links to other links.

That said, there's no 'goading' involved here. I was simply tryign to catch up with the rest of the crowd on what is associated with this situation, and what is reference to other parts of you life (disassociated.)


P.S. No offense taken, if you won't take any when I say "you write how you think". Not really a bad thing per say, for I do it as well, but it does make it hard to follow (as a total outsider) when you reference something, someone asks abotu it, and then you reference something else already said (and then repeat). I don't often take much time to read other people's lives online (i simply don't usually care to), so part of it is my lack of patience on trying to catch up without knowing if the answers I want were even posted before.

[chroot]

Why in the world is this thread still going? Gah.

- Warren

[phatmonky]

Originally posted by chroot
Why in the world is this thread still going? Gah.

- Warren


Because you and I can't stop posting in it. Gah?


- monky

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by chroot
Why in the world is this thread still going? Gah.

- Warren Because of me..... why else?

P.S. phatmonky agree/agreed/agreeable/agreeably.....(sometimes me too!)...no I don't assume it's "common knowledge" but I understand the perspective, try to write to compensate, and know that that is mostly the problem, for me(?), the amount I need to explain to get them even close to what it is that I "know"....and all that follows that.....

Insert whomever twisting your arms to read this....NAH!

[Andy]

I always ask myself why i am still reading this thread, and i havent a clue why. Phatmonkey, i dont think anybody knows what it is the Mr Robin Parsons did, other than himself and the government involved. I have been a regular for about one and half years now and have had many discussions with MRP about this subject and have never got anywhere.

Would be interesting to find out just what it is though.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by Andy
(SNIP) I have been a regular for about one and half years now and have had many discussions with MRP about this subject s-t-r-e-t-c-h-i-n-g it just a little.....aren't we?
Would be interesting to find out just what it is though. (SNoP) Pssst they call it r-e-a-d-i-n-g....then comprehension....then again... [6)]

[Andy]

Good to see that your still here.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

U2 [6)]!

[Andy]

Cheers, been away for the past 2 weeks doing a really boring course about motor vehicle's. It wouldnt be soo boring if the other students werent quite so stupid mind you.

Bit off topic but i dont care.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So then start a thread on it...."bore away" at your boredom [6)] thread yourself in...you know **** it

(Ohh Andy, MRP used a bad word!) [o)]

[6)]

[Andy]

Nah i cant be bothered to start a thread about being bored. I will just hijack one of your threads.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So if anyone else has questions, or answers, please go ahead, otherwise I'll probably just keep going on, as I have, throughout all of these times....Tanks!

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Have been listening to the latest scandal of this Liberal (party) government, people wondering if the present Prime Minster "knew", as the last Prime Minster Should have known (which clearly he did, as that would be why he had stopped short the last session of parliament, just as that Auditors report was about to become public...hence he delayed it's release and dropped it into the hands of his (then) rival, the Present Prime Minster).....makes me wonder if I could prove that "they know".....Humm, person who was Attorney General, at the time of the Sharpe case, is NOW the Deputy Prime Minster! (?) so how is anyone gonna tell me that the former Attorney General, who is/was required, by law, to tell the then Prime Minster just how the Constitutional Challenge (to the Countries Constitution/Charter of Rights) was solved, somehow doesn't know this any more, and has done NOTHING to tell this to the Current Prime Minster, who, as a member of the Liberal Party of Canada, should know as they, The Party, were sent the information, and know of the problem, should know, from several levels of positions within that party, and the simplicity that it is a responcibility of the Office of the Prime Minster of Canada, so he should have been told in the official exchange that took place when the office's powers and RESPONCIBILITIES were passed to him....

Makes me wonder what they wait for, as waiting is simply irresponcible...makes me wonder what is wrong with the Canadian media, "no news reporting on me" or this case, something that would have allowed them to 'skewer' the present government, wonder if they are playing political favoritism as Not taking a chance to "skewer a government" in defence of one 'ordinary citizen' is about as far from what these people do as you can get, and they have gone to that point "volontarily"...means they are in on it, NO DOUBT!

What a disgusting place to live, gives me lots of reasons for wanting to get out of, what they have turned into a S*** hole for me now, and never come back....

Really truly represents making this country into one of the worst places on earth to live if you have even an Iota of Brains, and no paperwork to back it up, cause they are disgusting thieves!

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Funny, reading todays Globe and Mail, a National newspaper out of Toronto, inside is a printed letter from a Canadian Senator that is supposed to be a private communications with other members of the Canadian Government during Caucus meetings, led in (headlined) by the newspapers observation of just how difficult it is to keep a secret!...unless it's me....

As to the leaking of information by the members of a Caucus, to the Media, I would support the idea of Members of a political party who, knowing that they do not have enough power to have it addressed properly, thinking that it might not be being done "in the countries best interests", seeking assistance 'covertly' from the media, in this manner, as they get to keep their respective representation of the population/people who/that elected them...so heres to freedom of speech, it helps keep the interests of the Country at Front and Center of the (media driven) Nation's (National) attention...

So...anyone willing to help me move? (not much 'stuff'...brain is "highly portable"...come with it's own head! [6)] )

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Oft have I wondered....how much longer?

[zoobyshoe]

Originally posted by Mr. Robin Parsons So...anyone willing to help me move? (not much 'stuff'...brain is "highly portable"...come with it's own head! [6)] )
Where you headed?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by zoobyshoe
Where you headed? It's in here....first choice (now?) would still be London, if possible, second Choice London (Great Britain, not Ontario) third choice would follow as "The City of London" In the Land across the Atlantic Ocean called "Great Britain"...and well, I'd like to see somewhere where democracy had roots, and is rooted in history, for milenia, and Well London England would sound nice, so, whadda ya tink?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So just went to a coffee store and was entertained by a man, telling his child, with him, not to "look at that guy, 'cause he's a Pot Smoker"....looking at me...Hummmm

Lets see now, just coming out of 12 to 13 years of social (Canadian!) abuse, at the hands of malicious gossips, making false accusations about me behind my back, and the fact of my complete social ostracization precludes me (half the time) from even knowing what is being said about me behind my back and now this...

If there is a single one of you with proof, please take it to the police and have me arrested immediately, otherwise, perhaps you should simply act like a little bit smarter adult and know that there are stupid, malicious people, in society, who will intentionaly start any rumor they can about anyone whom they think they can target that way....you should know it is that, cause otherwise, I would be In a courtroom being CHARGED with a CRIME by the PERSON ACCUSING ME!!!...otherwise, it is you who "aid and abet" the commission of a CRIME....

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Read the above posting before you read this one cause some of you need to figure some things out, like the consequences of your actions, and inactions, inasmuch as the stress levels, and the just plain FRUSTRATION that what has been going on in my life for the last umpteen years is the kind of thing that "DRIVES people to DRINK"...that expression you'll accept, but if I was to say "it drives someone to use marijuana", (Medicinally a SEDATIVE!) you'll freak out, and scream, and complain, and cry about it...if it had driven me to drink, then I might have made the papers by now, for the problems that I would have caused, freaking out about all of this, while drunk...but that hasn't happened, and isn't going to...BUT the point needs be noted by all of you as it is that kind of situation wherein you are probably more responcible, cause anyone put through this kind of Societal/social ABUSE, ABUSIVENESS, is someone who will be looking for some kind of emotional release, stress release, anguish release, release from the appearance of hopelessness and despair that all of this kind of overt lunacy and complete idiocy and mockery of Canada and Canadian Justice rights law causes, this attempt at complete and total piracy of My very Life, the idea that I should, now, sue the governement for redress is simply a confused attempt to Extort Me of even more of my time, extortion by process, as TIME is all I HAVE!!!!!!!! and "Ya" it is clear, that is what you all want of me, to stay here, go F*** yourselves, will ya, cause you are truly disgusting/revileing/abusive/cruel/blackhearted/ignorant/stupid/and INSANE! (and you would be/are the driving cause of it!!)

Your/this ruse is disgustingly obvious, and proves you to be, what you are!

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So I've got two 'stories' to tell, this one first....

I Have admitted to "Previous Use" why haven't I been arrested for that....well in law, if you do not have proof of the crime, you cannot proceed/prosecute, nor are you allowed to just assume it to be so, you must be able to prove it!

Having Marijuana (THC or THC Delta 9) in your bloodstream, is NOT illegal, the law is for Possession....if you partake of some by means of a method called a "Shotgun" (One person inhales the smoke into their mouth, and blows it into the open mouth of another person) in which the THC can be effectively ingested, it is without direct possession of the drug....that is why people who admit to "Previous Use" are not (generally) persued in/by the law...(Ross Robagliati {SP??Pardon}) inasmuch as there is (must be) the Presumption of Innocence (that protects your sense of Freedom!) and the Law is NOT allowed to simply assume that because you admitted to having had it in you, that you had therefore possessed it, just NOT allowed, as it runs over individual Rights and Freedoms, left, right, and sideways!

It had been that I had wanted to be honest about it if I could as I knew that that was the only manner in which truthful information can come out...tell me, how do you craft good laws if you don't have any idea of just what the item you are criminalising does, is used, affects people and social situations, etc. etc. etc. it is only in honest discourse that we can arrive at manners of treating the root causes of addiction that begats the activity....otherwise we start criminalizing all sorts of what we see as deleterious activity, based upon our knowledge that they are addictions, and we start jailing Overweight people, Politicians for being addicted to their own egos, 'Cept that that is exactly what you NEED to be a politician, especially a good one, so on it goes...

Does that help?

The other one comes tomorrow, if possible....

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So, in the spring of last year I "lucked out" and found myself a Nintendo game Boy, Color, in the snow. Showed it to some of the Younger people, that I knew, at one of the shelters that I have frequented.

Shortly thereafter, I have this couple approaching me, claiming that it is actually their Game boy, and they want it BACK!

So I ask the questions, what color is it, what make, specific model (if possible), type of game already in it, the female half loses out on all questions that cannot be referenced to me having told the younger people of the details of some of it, wrong Color, Wrong model, Wrong game in it, wrong characters inthe game, has no clue where it was lost and I know that were I found it is NOT one of the places that I have seen this particular person spending lots of her time...wrong side of town for her....

So they try to play "Good Cop/Bad Cop" switching their hats faster then you can see, and when if finally becomes clearly apparent, to the both of them, that I Know that it is NOT theirs, they know it isn't theirs (it shows! and they know it/ that! too!) one of them sits down, to eat, at the same table as me, and starts telling me how angry he is at being ripped off, how he is being robbed ....

To this day, they will persist with this line, even though they know I know it isn't/wasn't ever theirs, They know that I know that this is just another attempt at a rip off, they still keep trying.....

The guy has, so far, in the time that I have known of him, tried to set me up, well this would be about the sixth, or seventh, time, by now, is/has tried to have me 'set upon' by others, once telling a new release from Prison, who stayed at the Drop in, that If he wanted any Pot, all he had to do was to roll me, I looked at the guy when I heard that said and he (the instigator) chirped up "And Don't be fooled by that innocent look on his face" (mine).....

It was a fair sized guy, who had just be released, and didn't know anything about what was going on in this place, or anything about me either, and that is simply one of the times that this has occured....

The things I have been told, could be just hearsay for all I know, no Idea if what some of them are telling me is true, complete lie, partiallity of truth as to endevour to redirect the focus (in the telling) as to make it look 'otherwise' from what it really was.....OYE!

Don't wonder bout why I get upset...Served the Thirty Million people of Canada, Saved them apparently ~40 MILLION dollars, and I, because of the direct, and indirect, ignorance, of the responcible party(ies) end up in a place where I feel as if I am being subjected to punishement for what I did....wonder why the Idea that I would end up bad mouthing my own country, why I would want to leave it, why I would tell you that I simply "will not come back", cause you are about the most ungrateful people I have ever known, as per your representation, that goes to cruelty...intentionally withheld accreditation, intentionally withheld acknowledgement, therefore intentionally withheld potential for my own prosperity, therefore intentionally withheld future, MINE!

More to come(?)........

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So further to the persons causitve of problems in the local community ala Gossip, similar to the couple with the Gameboy, a "couple" the guy talking to me, and me, making it clear that I no longer wanted to talk, his partner starting in on it, the usual stuff from them, "What time is it" "Got a light" anything verbal to continue the connection to me, anything to be able to say they still "talk to/with me" something that I ceased/stopped, as best as I could, in my own self defence, then followed by them deciding to tell everyone else in the local "poverty stricken" part of the community (and it flows out, from there, to the rest of the local community, you can be sure) that, "Oh now he thinks he's better then the rest of us" that went around for some time, followed by the rest of the 'Poverty Stricken' trying to prove to me that I am just like them....O.K. PROVE IT show me where you served the ENTIRE COUNTRY and Saved the CANADIAN TAXPAYERS ~40 MILLION DOLLARS.... Just like me!

STEP UP!

GO FOR IT!

Prove to me that you are equal to me! by showing me that you have accomplished the same, or better, in your lives!

The rest, Hah, if you only knew.....

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Just so's we all stay on the same (or similar) page, something that I revealled, some time back, was that, there exists the distinct possiblity that, in all of what I know, spread out to the right people, one (or more) of them would find a Room Temperature Superconductor.

And I have strong reason to believe that, they believed me...
Government....so you could realize that, given that, at stake (so to speak) they might just want to be, well, careful in, well, with that going on, it is quite possibly the reason why there is no Accreditation (being) offered...see, they accredit me and they think that they lose control over my "whereabouts"...(Pssst, they never had control over that....still don't!) either that, or I will find another way to do this, and they might be cut out (Yes I know, unfair imposition upon the backs of the Scientific Communities in a manner that I (probably) don't really have the right to.....Uhmm A little bit of right, they are handing it to me (Shovelling it at me is more like it) but I would still attempt to respect the rights of persons in the Sciences...as best as I can) but what the Government(s) is/are doing...OYE! [o)]

That said, the Idea of a Room Temperature Superconductor is a little bit of a "duck", sorta, Ground Temperature is the one to aim for, as that is the most consistent temperature 'scale' available upon the interior face of the planet.

Here in Canada, an operable Superconductor that would be used outside, for Long Distance Transmission, would need a range in temperature of at least 70 C, as, in Canada the Temperature can range from -35 C to +35 C, just about everywhere ('Cept Southwestern B.C. {et al, I know}) so an exterior use would require greater temperature limits then one that would be buried, as the inground temperature remains quite consistent, just six to eight feet down, at around 15 C...YEAR ROUND.

That said, I personally don't know the specifics, (need help I guess) but I do have it, hummm...on an "Authority" (so to speak...am I allowed?) that it is quite feasable/do'able, soo, as I had said, I have good reason to believe that, they believed me....everyone wants The Wire! (got any idea how much a ground temperature Superconducting Wire would be worth on the Open Markets of the World?? HUH???)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So lets see, since I posted that item on Saturday concerning, well, I have admitted to prior usage so....one person started showing up....this guy showed up Sunday, (long story there...sorta) then Sunday evening at a meal that I hadn't seen him at in a little while. I sat in a chair against the wall, by myself, (No table) he comes over wanting to talk even though HE KNOWS I want nothing to do with him, I move off to go get my meal, take a seat again against the wall by myself across the room from the last one, he moves in again, I move out again....I leave the meal, (no incidents cause to many "straight people" there) then go about looking for lost coins, under the parking meters, as the snow melts and the re-emerge, walk into an intersection, see him and his 'Partener' across the street so I go further across as to be kitty corner to them, he sees me and starts calling out (yelling) that I am a "Rat", "There's the Rat" he is screaming towards me, his partner chirps up and asks why he doesn't simply go across the street and get me, "no Backup" is what he retorts to the partner.....

So I have reason to suspect that this is the one who had been promoting the idea that I am in possession of marijuana......hummm, this is a guy who told me that he Has a "Dangerous Offender" designation from Prison (a DO) told me he had had a "Rock and Roll lifestyle" financed by drug sales he claimed where in the $30,000 per
month range (he is, to the best of my knowledge, a {very} capable liar, so take that as meaning, well, whatever, it could just as easily be a lie) and he is, apparently, attempting to "Rat me out" (for an addiction) cause he seems to think that I should have been a "good and honest citizen" and go turn myself in, after all, I am, according to people like him, just as much of a criminal as he is/was.....humm he admitted to me that he had been an intravenous drug user, needles, but, apparently, he seems to think that, because he was once caught for his crimes, (not all of them, that is probably quite certain) he is no longer a criminal, cause he has paid his price, and is now a good and honest, upstanding, citizen....makes me wonder though, how to reconcile the ideas, inasmuch as, he seems to think that people should turn themselves in, if they have committed a crime, fess up, be honest, pay the price
(you know, like he did) which sounds really nice, save that he seems to have forgotten his bragging, last spring, about what he had done in prison, what he told me he wasn't convicted of because no one in the prison, who had witnessed his crime, would talk....he also told me that that was because they were all afraid of Him....truth is, they are afraid of the "Rat code" cause in prison they murder "Rats". (people who tell on you if you commit a crime)

Then again, this person has spent some time talking in front of me, (some of them like telling things, that they know are illegal, right in front of me, because they know, damn well, I don't like it) and it is clear enough from expressions he uses, like; "this entire town is full of rats" (that is sorta comical, cause, as I get his meaning, if he is outside your house, breaking into your car, you step outside, see it, and yell, "hey buddy stop breaking into my car or I'm going to call the police" well, he now has you as a RAT, you are a RAT simply because you wanted to use the societally accepted pathway of getting the police to help prevent crime...lords knows how or what he thinks is the right way of doing it other then that...back to Cro-Magnon man, and "head busting" (physical Violence) for the right to proprietorship) "Everybody in this town is a spy for the police" and several others, along the same lines, just pointed more at specific groups of people....even the people at the library, (are you laughing yet...cause it is funny, but NO it ain't funny, at all, this is {potentially} a very dangerous person) so what is the
difficulty in reconciliation here? well, he needs to lead the way, (for me, and everyone else) he needs to show us all that the proper manner of doing it, is to go to the Police, and turn yourself in, for what you know you have done, that is criminally wrong!


Just as he is attempting to, what? get me to do...on what criminal charge does he want me to cop a plea? admitted prior use of Marijuana, GLADLY, just as soon as he goes down there and admits to what he bragged and boasted about having done, in Prison, while he was incarcerated....cause I can tell you, something simple, If I was just as guilty as he is, then we are both criminals, something He thinks makes us equals...just that, the crime he wants me to admit to is one, wherein, if I had committed it, "possession", it would have been for my own personal use, so I hurt only myself, unlike him (who claims to have been a dealer and therefore has hurt, well God only knows, cause I doubt even he would know) who's crime, that he told me he had "gotten away with", well, that one certainly ended someone’s hurting, completely/permanently.....but only if anything he says has any
truth to it, me, not really certain of anything other then him telling me (and several others there at the time, and YUP, don't think for a second that any of them would tell, they won't, guaranteed) the things, he did tell me, that he has/had done. (His Claims)

And oh yes, just in case you are someone who knows me, (at least Claims that) and is running around telling everyone that we "got high together", well, I have put here how someone can accomplish that, without the criminal offence of possession, so if you were getting High, with me, you must be the one who was in
possession, right?

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P.S. Just so's we keep's it staright, most of the "Disenfranchised" people that are the Homelees, or poor, that I have to spend time with, are nice enough people, to the point that I realized that there are, amongst them, ones that I (sorta) miss talking to, as I had to stop talking to everyone, or no one, that is the only choice you get when you have been, what? made famous by "word of mouth" alone.....that, BTW is a conspiracy and it deprives me of my right to privacy, my right to choose for myself, and my right to know what the heck is being sid abuot me behind my back by the people initiated and continueing thses kinds of, what? ventures(?)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Just so's we understand (hopefully) knew an "Intravenous drug user", (needle injector) said he wanted to "weld steel plates" over his arms, to stop himself, but he admitted, and he knew, that even that wouldn't work, cause he would just find another site to do it.

He's admitting to what every addict needs to see, recognize, and learn to overcome, deal with, his own personal weakness. Not an easy thing to admit to, I have had to do it myself and in the very face of it after having, once prior, quit, seemingly easily enough, but having gone back, OYE! year and a half of "I don't want to do this", and going out, and doing it....you need within you, a 'skill set' that will allow you to accept you addictive behaviour, forgive yourself (a little, for slipping) in a manner as to keep alive the chance that you will find, within you, the strength to stop, completely.....but only when the time is right. (Rock Bottom usually helps you to see which way is Up)

But how do you do that, when the substance that you are addicted to, will, because of a need of possession, to regularily use, have you charged with a criminally prosecutable offence?

So there is no difference between someone who uses a needle to deliver the drug and the one who uses a bottle, both are addicts, neither are really criminals for it, but one risks criminal charges, and prison, for admitting (not really, but getting caught in possession...) to their addiction. (the other, Nah!)

Putting someone in jail for an addiction is only compounding the problem....a little like being a carpenter, and accidently hitting you thumb, while nailing up the roof, (I've done that!) then deciding that, since you hit you thumb, well lets hit all the rest of your fingers too...that is what compounding problems is really doing..."smashing the rest of your fingers!"

The rest is simply your judgement, being a judge isn't anywhere nears as simple as some of you would like to think it is, not if you wish to be fair about it, that is why placing people in prison is supposed to be for people who cause and/or create and/or present a danger to "society" (the rest of 'us') Not when they only present a danger only to themselves....an addict who can afford their addiction....

P.S. Being this open about anyone this close to me is sorta a breech of protocols, for me, sorta, sometimes exceptionally so, there are exception needed to be made, but really rare...

And I am missing some, so maybe later, maybe not...tic tocking

P.S. that meal (Sunday's) has at least 25 to 50 regular diners, the shelter has 5 to 18 customers, the other places are "full of people" please don't assume you know who anyone really is....(other then me)....Pp. Ss. ssst sorry bout the edits old, slow, machine....my fault, actually.....

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Counting this one, 127 posts, 50 of them NOT mine, the rest are

and BTW back on Sept. 1 2001 I didn't know any of the people that I now "live with"....some of the ones mentioned above, hadn't had a clue that they personally even existed, but, not unlike the rest of you, I had known of them being there, Had been aware of the existence of such people, from the same sources as the rest of you, read about them in the newspapers, saw it reported on TV, heard about them on the radio....but that doesn't teach you enough for you(?) (well me, at least, my opinion) to be able to sit in judgement of them, though, not even close, not if you care/want to be fair about it, or just...otherwise waste our breath in erroneous judgementalisms and help to what punish them farther. (not all of you do!, and, lots of you still seem to be willing to help, so, thanks!)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Read a letter to the editor, in a local paper, someone questioning the 'view' of a police cruiser "Fish-tailing" around a corner, aren't 'they too' subject to the law...?

Well, as someone with lots of winter driving experience, professional winter driving experience, (snow removal equipement, and related items) I can attest to the fact that driving a rear wheel drive vehicule, like a police cruiser, around a corner can be accomplished faster, and in a controlled manner, even though it causes the car to fish-tail! The fishtailing is as a result of the rear wheels driving the back end of the vehicule around the corner just a little bit faster then the front ones (sorta) which gets the car around the corner faster....

But there is NO danger if the Operator of the vehicule is trained, as police officers are, because the rear end (wheels) is actually driving the car, forward, releasing the throttle (letting off of the gas pedal) simply brings the rear end of the car immediately back in line with the front end, and has NO effect upon the operators ability to steer the vehicule throught the rest of the corner....it is a very safe manouver in a rear wheel drive...

It is not a safe manouver in a front wheel drive inasmuch as your front end will sideslip with the loss of steering control, a four wheel drive tends to "Powerslide", all four wheels lossing traction and the vehicule simply sliding sideways with NO steering or real 'speed' (up or down/gas or brake) control...

It would be nice if someone else could pass this on to that guy, cause what the police officer is doing is exactly what the public judges them upon, responce time...it is noteworthy to say that, if it is demonstrable that an officer has proceeded to the scene of a car accident, wherein it has already been established that their services will simply be that of "Legal secretary" with respect to the need of an 'independant witness', for insurance purposes, (enough monetary damge value) and a review of the responce time indicates an average speed needed to 130 Kph and it is also known that the area that the officer has proceeded through to get to the scene is a generally limited 50 Kph zone, well, you could be quite certain that that officer will be facing the law....from the other side...but they are allowed discretions, and they are allowed to speed to emergencey scenes, as far as I know...there's been that "red light thing" that I am uncertain what the last outcome was....after that....well, the officer in question was simply doing their job properly, and efficiently, even though it might "look like" it's more dangerous...it isn't.

Very simply put, if you know how to drive like that, trained, you know that it is a very controlled way to get around a corner, faster.....and that is "what we pay them to do"...not really, don't know that there is enough money in the world to pay someone to do what some of them have had to do, some of the rest, "I" imagine is better though...believe some of them still admit to that too....

EDIT'ed lots of schepellinking mistakenersuhmmmsererrs

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Interesting, just posted in a thread about global warming, makes me think of that 'wire' business, the possiblity of a superconductor that would work underground...

Had thought about some of this before, looked at Quebec's Hydro Electric grid, from James Bay, to Montreal, the distance, and the idea that the transmission lines lose electricity in the transmission, ranges around 30% plus/plus, so if you could replace that transmission wire with a superconductor, well it is like getting a 30% increase in generating capacity, for free, and forever...but you still need pay for the wire, and installation, so it ain't cheap....but it helps the environment, that is priceless.

The other problem is, naturally, the waste of time that is going on, with respect to me, inasmuch as it takes a long enough time to develop a "discovered" product, (this one needs discovery first) as in this case, you would need to test it, so minimium of one years use, in a test study, alone, makes for "it's a ways off yet!" never mind the reality of I haven't even had the chance to tell the rest of what should amount to be a T.o.E., yet, never mind the need of organizing that, never mind that......WOW what a waste of resources, in me, spending my time picking up money from beneath parking meters, apparently there are people who seem to think that that is the best way I could/should spend my time, because Clearly there isn't ANYONE who thinks differently.... cause if there was, I probably would have heard from them, by now, don't ya think?

Fun eh?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Tell me, have you read this thread page, Generates Economic Activity just by thinking...*HERE* (http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?postid=154812#post154812)

Followed by, that guy that I wrote about above, just as a thought/perspective, this would be (if He is/was being truthfull about his {past/previous} "occupation") a "drug dealer" accusing, his "customer"? of being a criminal?! for having been his customer??!! HUH???...clearly, some peoples logic is (really, really) twisted!

Libraries aren't dangerous....everywhere has that same potential for "danger", especially when you don't even know what you have been made "famous", by word of mouth, for, cause you are not included in that word of mouth thingy.

The other one is sorta simple, when you are surrounded by a group of people (that expands/grows, over time) all of whom have turned their backs to you, they are feeding off of what you create, you do know what happens when people eat? right? long enough time, days, weeks, YEARS later, do you know what it is that they have been creating around me, with their collective "rear ends" expelling the remnants of what (God's Grace) I have fed to them....and I, apparently, am standing in a little 'hole' in the center of all of that big pile of.....no one can apparently see any opportunity to offer me any assistance, help, nothing!, absolutely NOTHING!.....that is sick, disgusting, cruel, psychological cruelty, as well....and you want me to tell them all what??? that you are "nice" people? HUH??? something wrong with you?

[jimmy p]

you found a Gameboy Colour?? WOOT!! go you! and those people BLATANTLY dont own it so keep it. All you gotta do is find batteries! to make your hours of gaming last!

[ShawnD]

Let me see if I understand.

-The government screwed you somehow so you let your life fall apart .
-You refuse to work because you are too arrogant to get a job that pays less than $50,000 per year with full benefits.
-You feel it is wrong to pay taxes yet you are leeching off the welfare system which is solely paid for by people who you think turned their back on you.
-You are trying to survive yet you can somehow find hours and hours to blow on the physics forum.
-You think everybody on the forum is stupid because they can't understand your posts, which are basically just random thoughts about how you are so hard done by, and how the system has failed you.


Correct me if there is anything I have missed.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by jimmy p
you found a Gameboy Colour?? WOOT!! go you! and those people BLATANTLY dont own it so keep it. All you gotta do is find batteries! to make your hours of gaming last!
Nah got bored with it and sold it to a friend for cash (for {CLEAN} nic') so's I don't got it....no more [a)]

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by ShawnD
Let me see if I understand. Obviously, you need glasses!
-The government screwed you somehow so you let your life fall apart . Wrong word, cause I've been more on the "lets keep trying/going" then you know....obviously...
-You refuse to work because you are too arrogant to get a job that pays less than $50,000 per year with full benefits. Ya thats it in a nutshell, you, actually, in a nutshell, makes you the nut!
-You feel it is wrong to pay taxes yet you are leeching off the welfare system which is solely paid for by people who you think turned their back on you. Hummm what part of: "By God's Grace, I saved this country, that now pays me NO welfare money at all ($3.00 PNA {Personal Needs Allowence} from a shelter, FOURTY MILLION (TAX) DOLLAR$....and you want to call me a leech??? Huh??? What??? YA Stupid???
-You are trying to survive yet you can somehow find hours and hours to blow on the physics forum. One hour in one library, half an hour, in the shelter, sometimes more, Hummmm "Hours and hours" Yup! you confirmed it, you don't really have a clue what you are talking about, neat!
-You think everybody on the forum is stupid because they can't understand your posts, which are basically just random thoughts about how you are so hard done by, and how the system has failed you. WOW Fantasy Land in another's brain....do you "smell 'toast' burning"...or are you really just adressing yourself....
Correct me if there is anything I have missed. O.K. You missed on everything, cept that limegreen part

Including this part, the system didn't fail me, the Supreme Courts Justices acted, well, perfectly, kept me out of the papers, the news, and everything, just what I had wanted, to remain "private" and not have to come out in to the open, like this, to face, well, whatever you actually are, in places, like this, without have the accomplishements, in my life, acknowledged, clearly by someone, or some people, with more authority, and intelligence, then you are demonstrating herein...that's real clear

It is the other half of the 'Twin Towers' that has failed me, the Representation of the People part...won't admit to what I did, won't admit that I am alive, or, that I exist....can't keep 'doing it to me', if they do that, acknowledge that I did that, now could they

That you cannot follow it all, well, doesn't surprise me, that your judgemental about it all, even though you clearly haven't a clue what your saying, that too, is no real surprise either...just a reflection of the malice, in some people...

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

ShawnD, clearly, as perhaps you can tell, you scared me!

How could anyone read what I have written and come up with the conclusions/questions you did, Wow!! not a clue....

BTW got any idea just how much $40 Million is....$1000.00 per day of government services for approx 120 YEARS, about $5 Million short of running the House of Commons, for an entire Year....requires about Half a Billion dollars of 'economic activity' (sales) to aquire, using the 7% GST tax....

Buddy this ain't chump change but the government of Canada is definetely treating me like I am less then a 'chump'

Please if you respond, at least try to have read, and understood, what I have endevoured to explain....I know from my own experience abuot what happens when things are read to fast, or responded to too quickly, or their is simply to much to read and absorb in one shot...

Thanks

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

P.S. I do realize it isn't 120 years exactly, I had said "approx" and it is more like 112 years something like that...

But if you figured it as something like, that had been a 'tax return' to me, and they had waited this long, three years, to pay me back, they would owe me near (enough) five million dollars, in interest alone, calculated on their return rate...so it ain't 'chump change' at work here...never mind that the 'opinion' that I had provided to the Justices of the Court S-O-L-V-E-D the "Works of the Imagination" defence for all time!

Had they not had that expression of 'opinon', they would have had to pick from the three 'other' choices, all of which, it is reasonably assured, would have cost the Government of Canada MORE money, then more still for some of those possibilities....

Aside from which, had they simply acknowledged that I had done it, by letter, I probably could have gotten myself on radio (again, as I have done that before, other reason though) and from there well who knows much greater opportunities for prosperity, for myself, from there, right? can't you tell?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Lets see governmental responsibilities....Humm, have tried really carefully to not be impuning upon the reputation of the Supreme Court of Canada or the Justices therein, as that would be wrong of me to do.

That aside, the justices were fair, inasmuch as, they had thier lawyer provide me with a letter admitting to the receipt of the mail I had sent in respect of the 'Solution' to the "Works of the Imagination" writing...as to my presenting these things, herein, this thread, well the Justices of the Court are meant to have the same right to 'presumption of innocence' that everyone else has...lest you can prove that they know this is here...but the Government has been told of these things, these forums, my writing(s) herein...and they have a responsibility to ensure that the reputation of the Supreme Court of Canada is upheld, and NOT repudiated by persons missappropriating elements of the truth as to create there own separate, and/or unsupported, agenda...

What that says is that the Canadian Government, the poeple in the House of Commons, have a responsiblity to ensure that the Courts reputation is not being abused by, well, anyone, actually...so what it comes down to is that you cannot assume agreement for what I have said in these threads from a position of the Justices of the Supreme Court, but you can certainly accept, and see, that the governmental officials, who do know about these type of writing(s), of mine, do NOT have me arrested for it...and they would need to, if I was lieing...so why is what I need still missing?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Funny, been a manager before in my life, ran a 'company' for other people, outlet actually, you get to know about HR (Human Resources) and how that applies in business.

If you have good people business works better then if you don't...what a brainstorm!...right?

So in Government and in business there are very many similarities to the operations, and executions, of procedures, but the 'basal', or fundamental drivers/purposes/Raison D'etre's are different, and therefore the results are different...especially in law.

To ignore an employee (citizen) who saves your company (Government) $40,000,000...Well, we be reeeeal Happy you don't run the HR department, to cost that employee (citizen) three years of their lives, simply trying to prove that, publicly, to right the wrong of the "ignorance of it"...Well you see in law Governing is different cause we now have a position of media and government both ignoring this reality, completely, and without having ever once discussed anything with me, not a thing, not a sound, not a word, complete ignorance of all responsibilities...

Can you tell that something is wrong? cause surely you don't actually believe that I think that this is normal? (do you?) what is going on here?....you would have to be, either, nuts(?) or, incapable of reading...and comprehension of the written word... (God's Grace...Clearly) I'm not that bad at communicating with these "word thingies"...

So why does a Government ignore completely a citizen who saved them Forty Million, and let them waste three years (plus) of their lives trying to prove it....(in the Face of the Supreme Court...well, not really, more like "after the fact" and even greater rudeness upon the reputation of the Court By the Government of Canada) in a public manner, that was clearly something that he hadn't wanted, and probably JUST as clearly HAS DONE to the satisfaction of lots more people then have ever been willing to admit it....one guy so far, back in 2001, just upon my word, sad, and I'm sorry for what followed that one, but I still can do nothing about it because of.....what?

Who's in charge of the HR in Canada? Oh right, because of the manner of the operation of the law I can only know, defacto, of the 'guilt' of one (or two) people, hence it amounts to a targeting by the Highest Office in the Land, against an Individual Citizen...what you are doing to me, is what you will be doing, to yourselves...soon enough.

God's Will be done....about to end the 48th Year of my life, and enter into the 49th..."Go ahead! Waste my Day(s)!"

(So many 'other' possible things, that might have been solved, by now)

(When do the words actually mean enough, to any of you, that you would act, HUH?...)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So, here in Canada there is a Scandal currently running in the governemnt of the country, the Scandal involves about $100 Million ('missing') out of $250 million at that department.

The payouts were apparently 'corrupt' in their lack of needed, and wanted, verifications of performances, things like that, but in the budget of a country, like Canada's (runs tween $300 Billion and $350 Billion in tax revenues) if we examine the monetary issue, from the perspective of persons who need operate with such amounts, we remove the first six zeros, and the result is viewed as a $350,000 per annum "income" ('household budget' right?)...Now, the $100 Million becomes $100.oo out of a $350,000.oo per annum income,,,so how much money do you want to spend to go after the responcible party(ies)? $20.oo ? (It is really $20 Million) $30.oo ? $40.oo or more ? to find that the money was dispersed in Canada (Helped the economy, none the less, if it was, but, agreed, that Doesn't Justify it!!) Assuredly unrecoverable, least ways the vast majority of it probably is unrecoverable...

Lets see Apparently By God's grace I saved the Government bout $40 Million dollars (Now $40.oo) so if you spend that amount chasing, well you will have spent what it cost to have me live in this country all of my life (1 Million Dollars) and to have paid the Entire Civil Service Career (including retirement) of someone like Jean Chretien (40 Years of service < 1 million a year) and Change left over after those two items...no doubt! it is a lot of money for most people...

Which begs the Question of just how much do you spend going after people, legally, when the result is mostly "muddied" names, The definition of a politicians job is to be held accountable and responsible for that which they might not have real and actual "complete" control over, Never mind that taking people like that, from that level of operation of a government, and placing them in prisons, well if the crime justifies it, yes, monetary crimes question that warrant upon such forms of punishments, especailly when 'power and control' tends to want to rest responsibility upon the (one) person who had the control to stop it, knew, and didn't...it's that "Knew" thingy that is sooooo difficult, to establish, in a Court of law...but not always.

If you were a "Working Stiff" Making $350,000.oo per annum, how far would you go, how much would you spend chasing after a lost (possibly stolen) $100.oo ?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So, lets see, still no answers from anyone, not a sound, no contact, nothing....In any other country in the world they would have been grateful to have someone who could solve such a problem, but not in Canada...here in Canada, Nothing...No Justice, No news, No answers, No responses, No responsible people anywhere's it seems...

Oh wait is this as a result of what went on on the internet before I actually started posting on the net? like the person who tried to create a reputation for me, behind my back, outside of my knowledge, well, not completely because like any crook they wanted me to know so I was subjected to forced eavesdropping (so they could tell you all "He knows he knows" even though that was BS) and lots of 'Hinting' (psychological warfare tactics) around me in any social situation they could catch me in....


Lets see, it goes a bit like this one, Guy wanted his Tractor fixed, I checked out the tractor told him I needed to disassemble the motor, as on a compression test, it had less the 45 lbs on at least two cylinders.

After removing the entire front end of the tractor, to get at the motor I started to disassemble it, taking off the oil pan revealed two sets of shattered sleeves, for the cylinders, sitting in the pan.

Further inspection of the cylinders (minus sleeves) told me very clearly that the repair would only suffice to fix it long enough for it to occur again, as I couldn't fix, or remove, the causative problem of the shattering of the sleeves, which was as a result of the pitting in the Blocks cylinders that would cause differential heating of the sleeves relative to the Block...the sleeves were cast iron and the block was steel...so...I informed the owner of the costs, and the simplicity that although I could easily repair it, it would simply do the same thing all over again as I couldn't fix the pits in the cylinder walls....his options were, repair it, and use it till it simply broke again, (which wouldn't have taken long) or, repair it, and sell it to some 'Dupe'....He choose not to repair it, to expensive, and he was simply too honest a person to be willing to go out and fool another like that....so it was eventually sold as scrap...

Nothing big in there, is there? well that was used against me by way of telling people; "See he is NOT a mechanic, cause he never fixed the tractor" He never put it together again" "What do you figure? cause he couldn't! right?" (leading, to a conclusion, that is false..but it leads there well, and most people ask no more questions past that) as was evidenced, to me, later, while at a garage, being told; "Oh yes! we've heard about you! and your mechanical skills" (sarcastically stated)

Stuff like that went on for years, all because no one ever bothered to check it out with me, or anyone else who would have known the truth of it, rather then the misappropriated truth, that was told....like all of the stuff from the net...not like I didn't know, tell someone I was the discoverer of the Gravitational particle, and I could tell if they were net connected, or not, simply by their response, net people; "uhmm uhmmm oh ya, beam me up eh Scotty" non-Net people; "What are you talking about?" Obvious isn't an adequate enough word to cover it...and could I get help from the Justice System, Ha! that was little more then a bad joke, at the least, criminal at it's best, same thing with the various media outlets that I endeavored to contact, they went about it absent of consulting me what-so-ever, let everyone else make their case (against me?)and didn't even so little as tell me what was being said/done behind my back, same as now, still going on...

Oh yes the media outlets, and everyone else, in receipt of Copyrighted (private) letters, that are, legally, un-quotable (because they are un-published) so how do they go about it, without violating the laws of copyrights? HUH? (They violated them, me, and lots more...and still are?)

So is there still someone out there pretending to speak for me? responding for me? as NO one has that right, not at all, then again that is how you go about stealing someone's life from them, isn't it? and that is just what they want to do, steal my life from me....or just the ideas, in me, in my life....

What a disgusting Country to live in....Your not fooling me, you just think you are....so really your just fooling yourselves, and punishing me in the process..."Thanks" is NOT what comes to mind to tell you, more like (expletives deleted)!!!

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So when all of this has been ongoing, I have wondered the Idea of not "Speaking ill, of the dead", I agree, just that I am not the one raising the spectre, (That is whomever is continueing that persons words, and/or persons who followed {aided and abetted} that person) not to the best of my knowledge, and that is simply because it has never been 'cured'...sorta like my side of the story, almost in anger, now, cause of all of the time that this has been permitted to continue, in this society, without any resolve, or attempt at resolution, of anything....comes down to, if I have committed a crime, then arrest me, otherwise, you have to respond to me, you too have legal obligations, not just me...Oh yea, they just tried that...well, sorta....but I don't think I had committed any crime, (ended up appearing as I had not, as I was set free...so it was a cold wet night, in a wet sleeping bag, in a tent) if I had been a "wanted felon" or 'accused' of Anything, I would have been kept there, no question of that one, then again, had any of this been responded to, by anyone, who has a legal responsibility to society, then none of that would have occurred....humm talk about creating a story, by ignoring one in process....


So I had wanted to remain private, that cost me on the day of the judgement (Jan 26 2001) inasmuch as I had mentioned to a "Someone" that I might be mentioned as "Involved" in that case, and they found out the answer to that one before I did...seemed to be rather unhappy with me, as I then appeared as a liar, and unbeknownst to me...found out later that I hadn't been mentioned but recalled that I had mentioned that I had preferred the pathway of remaining a private citizen, soo this was good, hadn't known, or thought, that the Justices of the Supreme Court could have accomplished that, but they had, THANKS!

So then the next part befell the Government of Canada, legislative part inasmuch as, in not having made it public, the Justices had, responsibly, (Legally bound) not proffered any opinion upon the nature of the work, and it's affect in that case, at least not publicly, but the Attorney General needed to know, as did the responsibility of the Attorney General oblige the then Prime Minister, to know, as well, (required by law, Governance of Eminent Domain, the resolution to a Constitutional Challenge) so for me to have, simply, the ability to "Prove It" they were, and are, (To the best of my knowledge ) to act on behalf of the people(s) of Canada, and respond to me!

Why this is yet to happen, three years plus later, YIKES!....there oughta be a LAW...Oh wait, there IS!

Where?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

BTW in the above writing, I mention that the Justices "offered no opinion" (so far) as to the nature of the work, or it's effects, so I don't have that either...all of what has been done, herein, and eslewheres, By me, is on the strength of the Fact of it being a "self evident truth" that had been submitted, by myself, one that, to the best of my knowledge, is "previously unrecognized" as a self evident truth....

So the strength of the ground that I stand upon is, well God's Grace, the truth, as in that work, and in the verdict....But you see it is still possible (highly improbably, and unlikely...BUT) that I could simply be wrong, that there was another way to do it, and it is simply that the Justices don't know of this effort of mine...that being the only reason why I would not be in prison, presently, If this is wrong........

EDIT it is like three years of "waiting for the other shoe to drop" still waiting....

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So, lets see, (like it, when I say that?) lived in Quebec for 44 years of my life (basically), and there in Quebec they have some of the toughest Privacy Laws in...well, North America, so there shouldn't be anyone there speaking about a guy (moi) who admits to having been socially 'ostracized', spending most of his time alone, (very little social contact, other then things like, the video store, work, out riding my bicycle...Oh, had to stop that cause of the..."whatever"...but that was why I had gotten 'fat' in '99) and had precious little interaction(s) with anyone....and it isn't like Quebecers can't keep secrets, cause that, simply, isn't true...soooo

The "net stuff" followed me to Calgary, knew that...heck "R&R network" (you 'guys' do know what the word 'Broadcast' means, right?) ensured that to some degree, plus (simply) there it arose that I had a clear need for media help, or proper government response, heard tell of possibilities of 'Working on future stories"...innocent enough, and having a "blackard" tipping the scales, (against me) behind my back, wouldn't have helped in a situation where lawyers would already be nervous enough with the ideas of broadcasting 'the issue' so that is sorta OK, 'cept the 'little tiny' rest of that, immediately personal things, but certainly not in a Big (enough) picture that anyone there did anything immediately (criminally) wrong, not even close (as far as I know)...so that's sorta OK...

Now Kingston, well they didn't know 'bout me, at all, when I got here, well, they had, sorta, some of them, but really few, (as in less then what 10, 20, people that I know of...) so that has changed, apparently, but is still sorta difficult to "objectively" prove, as is the stuff with the Court...without further, or any, confirmation of fact(s)

So where does that leave me....HUH?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Ever learn from your mistakes?

Ever think that you were the first at something but found out later that you hadn't been, Did that with a "solution to Fermat's", Thankfully an avie named "Leviticus" (CBC/Forums-Canada) helped me out, telling me where, in 'Greek Math History', to find who had originally discovered it, Yikes!

Another time it was talking to an employer, explaining vegetative habitat(s), Said to her that "the only thing that was (is) permanent, was (is) change" as she had stated that she had wanted something to remain in the un-naturally groomed state it had been sold in...found out that it was someone Named Heraclites (SP?) who, apparently, had been the first 'recorded' to have uttered said expression...(another Greek...of History)...but I tell ya, the look on that woman's face, the expression of comprehension that crossed her face, that's priceless...even if I wasn't first 'up at bat' still got a hit, it seemed...

And the bonus of having had that Sense/a(tion) of Discovery arise, from within, that is a git to the inside of one's-self, from....well, you know my answer, yours is whatever You want......Believe....Know(?) HUH? ....(subjective!)

[olde drunk]

i failed to include the quote from Parsons as to what do you do at 47, etc etc early in the thread.


first, accept responsibility for your present situation!

if you blame others, you will misdirect your energies. if you accept your role, then figure out why you did it. that should be your answer to yourself.

peace,

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Originally posted by olde drunk
i failed to include the quote from Parsons as to what do you do at 47, etc etc early in the thread.
first, accept responsibility for your present situation!
if you blame others, you will misdirect your energies. if you accept your role, then figure out why you did it. that should be your answer to yourself.
peace, Nice advice, but (pardon) inappropriate to the situation inasmuch as it clearly is NOT my fault that the government of Canada hasn't, yet, responded....

Soooo......

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So Olde Drunk, some advise perhaps, when giving advise it is good to know just what it is that you are truly advising the other, to do...But I understand that this is a long thread, lots to read, but a bit like a 'Resume' for me, 'Abridged' to say the least, (only manner I can shorten that, is to write 'Janitor' accreditable, as such, you see) so it is simply enough to understand why employment of myself would/should(?) be specialized, to say the least(?)....

But it interests me, Having, By God's Grace, been able to serve a Country, then to have had that service carried to more places then I can name (BTW Can any of you name them all?? Huh?) with the "Originating" 'source' (God, through me!) of the usefull knowledge being 'hung out' absent of service to himself (me) of even so little as the proof of the truth it....OYE! YIKES!!! (...Yes! God knows 'who' did it...I need not prove that to him, either)

So it is clear enough that I have done more then a 'Janitors' employment, and it is also clear enough (at least to me) that, By God's Grace I have been pushing the ball forward/along in both Society, and Science, for a little time now, sorta...I know that too....and there is a Planetary Industry that does nothing but look for people like me, to make them (and me) money, and I hear, what?? silence?? not really can hear the sound of the ball rolling, and all of those (people) following that rolling ball, (Can hear there footsteps?)...Oooops...wait...."loose cannon"...(that's what I was "Tagged" as) so...careful, Loose ((Cannon...(coming through! (BOOMIN!)????Huh? nah....


Tell me why, before you tell me to stop.....or at least, no offence, know what it is that you are asking me to give up upon.....

Cheese, the read count...where is the e-mail tracking bot?...where did I put that?? (Oh ya! right! it's back in the tent, with my computer..........sarcasm? ya figure? see it coming out of me commonly?)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Isn't the story, on the CBC Television network, Here in Canada, (Any US coverage of that story?) simply educational...to say the least, some time back, the Iraq War a team of American Hockey players was, well, treated sorta badly by people with very strong feelings about that War...and Now, it is Fixed....the Team was re-invited to return and play again, and the place where it happened is demonstrating that it was not intentional, in a personal mannerism, that it arose, as it had....treating them with "due respect" and "kindness" [b]does]/b] seem to work, to make amends, for past wrongs...I suspect the word is "restitution"...making at least an effort to remedy the clear errors, of past times, as it is in that that forgiveness can be found, in the first place, the healing of honesty (even if 'limited honesty')...and to Accommodate 'losses' that have been incurred, because of the error of 'timeliness'....

Then again the CBC and me ain't on it to good I suspect, chopped the whatever out of that thread(s) making it look like it was my fault that my fellow Canadians were ganging up on me calling (or making it look like it was) ME, the liar, when it was the 'other', No Question 'bout that! Not for me....

They also have this lovely piece of 'prejudicial propaganda' that they seem to not even realize it's affect upon the public...a continuing commercial, of themselves, that repetitively...Ohhh I have been seeing this one for a Looooooong time now, on there broadcasting, easily months of repetitions, and always the same questions about the Governments idea/plan of "decriminalization" of Marijuana, "A) increased hard drug use B) relief for pain sufferers C) American relations up in smoke" always the same, over and over, Pavlovian Background Impingements! that don't even need be there, if they would simply alternate the choices, occasionally/sometimes....WOW can't even tell when they are beating there own customer over the head.....


But that story of 'Someone', well, a Townspeople's, actually, atoning for temporal misgiving, really nice and sooo obvious that that mannerism of activity is Healthy for Society/people....exactly what governments want to be known, for being able to be, promoters of good social (the 'peoples') health, overall health, (includes mental health) not just physical, and social interactivity amongst the Worlds peoples...You know, outside of Canada...the rest of the World! where I, apparently, (God's Grace!) served as well...sorta...

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

BTW I haven't "Fallen through the (proverbial) cracks" I was abandoned, by Society, by Government, by Canada...

Left at the side of the road, to fend for myself, abandoned for the illusion of "everything’s OK...He doesn't really need any help, forget about him, it won't amount to much" stuff like that followed by the reality of; "Well, why isn't he working? What’s wrong with him? What's HIS problem? (All of you! at least those 'responsible', who haven't been)Why doesn't he just get a job, and shut up!(?)"

But that's been a part of that, all along, just 'get a job' so then everything "looks just fine" "no problems here' but
that is the problem me going along with some (idiotic) perception that I am stupid, or something, that the best
use on me is as a Janitor, (Whoa! what YOU been smoking?) that what I have to offer doesn't, mean a
damn thing to any of you...(clear enough! never a response!)...tell me that, please...cause, God willing I will go
away....

...who? (in their right mind!) would want to live in a society that behaves as all of you have behaved towards me?

Janitor discovers electrons being manufactured (illegally?) in collusion with lead atoms, as led on by a
generator...film at...well, there isn't any film, that is kinda the problem, now isn't it? ("Psssst don't tell him cause it'll
go to his head".....Pssstback (IDIOT!) that's where it came from!)

If I don't put it here, I don't get credit for it, cause I cannot get it put anywhere’s else, nor, apparently, does anyone
seem to think that I can earn anything from writing...even if it's only an autobiography...YIKES!

Can ya tell that something is afoul? something’s wrong!? can you tell?

[jimmy p]

[8)] [8)] [8)] what??? have i missed something here, i have been keeping up with this thread but i must have autopiloted somewhere, what are we talking about now? [t)]

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

In respect of what jimmy P...?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

It's sorta comical to me once again the suggestions of "why don't you get a job?" re-start, so answer me this question first, why would I want to pay a dime in taxes towards such an abusive, ignorant, and idiotic country? Why should I support the willfully "ignorant idiots" who abuse me? it would be like paying a crook to rob you, how stupid are you all?

How stupidly does the representation of this country portent this country to actually be?....(NOT just a perception!)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So I heard that expression about "Suppressing one person, for the greater good of All" again, and I wonder just how much of an idiot, anyone, who would fall for that, must be?

If you suppress the rights of one individual, then you have effectively suppressed the rights of ALL of the individuals, so it is IMPOSSIBLE that you be "Working towards the greater good of All" it is a house divided...(and in case you haven't heard, "it cannot stand!")....and if you know of anyone, professing, any form of spirituality, and
following/espousing that kind of activity, (wilful suppression of another) then you an easily figure out that that person wants to pervert the 'Greater Good of All' principal, to serve themselves, it is "A House Divided" ergo, from spirituality, you would find it would be the work of Evil!....a black hearted attempt at perversion, and subversion, of what is "The Common Good" which is meant to be truly for All, not falsely!

Till there is an answer, there is no atonement, there can be no forgiveness, and time is "costing".....

What a sick and perverted bunch of idiotic individuals, it must be, that would so willingly undertake to suppress me...YIKES! THIS IS DISGUSTING!

[Chi Meson]

Mr. Parsons:

I have just read a great book. It needs a little editing and maybe some embellishments, but this thread, with others' comments and your reactions, is a great read. Maybe I scanned over someone already suggesting this, but you could get this "conversation" published.

[jimmy p]

In respect of what jimmy P...?


in respect to the couple of quotes before my last post.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Mr. Parsons:

I have just read a great book. It needs a little editing and maybe some embellishments, but this thread, with others' comments and your reactions, is a great read. Maybe I scanned over someone already suggesting this, but you could get this "conversation" published.
Thank you... Appreciate the input/feedback... :cool:

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

in respect to the couple of quotes before my last post.
please, elucidate,as I do not understand (or know) just quite what it is your 'think'ing of, writing it down, for me to read, helps me! lots!

[jimmy p]

actually don't worry, i have re-read it and it makes sense now. So, what's new in your life?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

actually don't worry, i have re-read it and it makes sense now. So, what's new in your life? IT's a new day!! God's Grace!!that alone is beautiful, and full of promise, otherwise they are politicians....does that answer the question?

[jimmy p]

well actually i was quite captivated to hear about your social interactions. It's strange, i'm not interested in "reality tv" but I am interested in hearing about how other people lead their lives. I guess i was more interested to hear how you handled the predicament with the Gameboy that you found, and how you are getting on with people. Obviously your frustrations with your lack of government support and recognition (yes i know they are huge understatements and not the whole story) but i would like to know how the "life" side of you is going. If you care to divulge...


ps. hope no-one is giving you trouble anymore. :smile:

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Gotta sorta be reeeal careful 'bout that.....maybe later, maybe not.....

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Well, my social interactions, at present, are about as limited as I can get them to be, not wanting to talk with just about anyone, due to the reprecussions of it, and the ensuing problems of that one, plus apparently more people wanting to talk, then I can accomodate, in the Homeless "entourage", that and the "Everything that comes out of his mouth, teaches someone something" (near enough it seems) dilema....hence a preference for silence, in the company of the present 'mileux'....then there is the sleep deprivation issues, then there is the lost any sense of privacy issue, then there is the Why isn't there any reporting on what I have, By the Grace of God, been able to accomplish Really BIG Issue! then there is the what I get to look forward to in the immediate future...just lost on one of the few creative venues/opportunities that I had liked having, A Signature in these forums, but I cannot keep up with anything that requires money...so I lose out there to, one more thing taken away...then there is the soon to be out of the shelters, as they close for the summer, so I go from $3.00 per day, back to nothing, back to a molding, wet(?) tent, need bike repairs, tires, and a chain, have nothing, and have been deprived of what I have an earned right to, can't find a single person, in the entirety of this country who is willing to lift a finger to assist me, other then the "blind charity" that is offered to anyone/everyone....not much else new...well yes, but as I stated above.......But, at least, no one is threatening me, at present....

Other then that :cool:

[tribdog]

Okay, this is my first post in this lengthy thread, but I am probably the most qualified person here to respond. Having gone through the same situation myself. I was homeless for a while. I lived behind the local library in a sleeping bag, ate at soup kitchens, etc.
Here's my two cents worth:
1. You've got a tent? be grateful for the luxury, I woulda slit your throat for a tent.
2. Not wanting to work because paying taxes is "giving" money back to those bastards in government is asinine.
3. Go out and get a job. If illiterate, illegal aliens can get a job around here I'm sure you can find something. Don't want to do menial labor? Who cares what you want, do what it takes to get on your feet then worry about a better job.
4. For now all you need is a kick in the *** for therapy, but once you get out of the gutter, professional help is a good idea. People who think therapists are out to get the goods on them are a perfect example of people who need therapy.
5. You like being homeless. You are High King, Super Genius of the Homeless. Nobody is half as smart as you in your peer group. You'd rather be King of the Nobodies than a nobody in the kingdom.
6. Other than two or three people here no one would buy a book of your situation, and they would only do it out of kindness and the fact that they know you.
7. Everybody here is too nice to you. Feeding your feelings of being **** on by "the Man" giving you an excuse to continue your current situation.
8. If you don't like what I'm saying get on your bike and peddle your homeless butt down here and kick mine. At least then you'd be moving in a certain direction towards a goal.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Tribdog thanks but Nah...."tent" what is left of a thirty + year old (rags) now, it was coming apart (ripping) from the wind last year...

"Working and taxes", apparently, you just don't get it...but that's OK too...

"Menial work" apparently you haven't read enough to know I was a janitor, menial work isn't new to me at all, and it isn't because of meniality.....God's Grace I have earned the right to better then that!

"Kick in the what" therapy? for what? no reason, no need......Therapy is for people who cannot handle their emotional problems, Again God's Grace i haven't those, just ignorant/ignoring people problems....

"Super genius of the homeless" what a good joke! you should write humor...

Now your a pulicational consultant, experiance in the pubishing trade equals...what? so I know whether, or not, your qualified to advise me on such matters...(personally, I think, NOT!)

"everybodies feeding me feelings"? WOW news to me...there ignoring me, especailly the Press/media/newspeople who have a legal responsibility to reporting to the People of Canada the News of Canada, they are derelict in that, with respect to me, and the Peoples of Canada, the assignors of there licensed right....it's like they are slapping the Canadian people right in the face....

On my way to Arizona...nice place BTW for what little I have seen of it, who's a gonna feed me so's I can whomp, well, no-one as I don't behave that way that would be childish, ignorant, and stupid...and contribute nothing to a solution....waste of energy and time and talent...YIKES!....

Have been moving towards a goal, getting this solved responded to been moving towards that for some time, just no one esle will either, help, or respond....sooooo

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

BTW, Tribdog weren't you from "Cajun land" previously, Mississippi River Delta, and 'peripherally' North thereof...?

Might have gone there, but not to fight someone....Humm, cycling to "Cajun Land" what ~1500 + miles, by bicycle, so's when we meet, for what you seem to want to "invite" I will just have spent whatever number of days cycling 50 + miles per day, developing stamina (I suspect, OOOOPs nope, I By The Grace Of God, Know! that one...personal experience) so's we can then what??....no thanks, nothing to prove that way...and It would seem a little more intelligent to not be busting someone who's only thing going for him is the Grace of God's Gift of Intelligence, in the head....not a demonstration of intelligence, (although, in a bad way, {'possibilities only' thought[s]) it could be a demonstration of 'Brains') now is it, not by me either, sooo

Tell me though, since I have been honest about wanting to Start in London, do you think there will be enough time left, in my life, (especially given "everyone's" ***'umption{s} of my "imminent" and/or 'terminal' life expectation) for me to ever get anywhere's near places like that, after all there is all of the rest of the World that follows a Path through London, Europe...(as example)...the 'Other' parts of the Globe...places Like China, Russia, India, Australia...to name but a few...getting all over all of that, by Bicycle, is gonna take some time...right?

Oh yes, another BTW...How do you know how many people know about me?
(you Don't...but that is just My opinion....based in some, well, a 'little' more knowledge, of myself, and my life, then you....so Who cares?) Right?


Oh yes, last time, BTW, I could be wrong about you living in 'Cajun Land', sorry, if I erred..... :cool:

[tribdog]

If by Cajun land you mean Mesa, Arizona. Then you are correct, however, I've found the Creole population to be rather scarce in the desert. As far as me knowing anything about your life I only know what I infer from your posts. Well, what I infer and the 2Gigabytes of info downloaded from the chip Big Brother implanted into your head before conspiring to place you into "Experiment #899C" or "Operation Homeless" as it is more commonly known.

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

apparently I do not know the US like I thought I did, sorry, as for "knowing me"...well YIKES! :cool:

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

...of the (legendary?) Canadian who gave a piece of his lifes work to his country, Canada, to serve the peoples of Canada in the restoration of peace of mind, in the populace, a triumph of the Democratic sytem of law inasmuch as the Servitude protected the Charter of Rights of the Peoples of Canada, but especially because the Victory, Cheered by the Officers of the Peace, was seen as a Victory for ALL of the Children of Canada....this all furthered by the Workings of the Connectedness of the Canadian Government, extrapolating the Victory through more of the World then most Canadians, or their children, (who are busy learning Geography!) could name, such that it became a Victory for the Children of the World, (Well, at least in the 'Democratic {Rule Of Law} World') and the Man who authored the work, waiting more the three years, simply for his country, his place of Birth, to acknowledge that it was he who had authored the work, that had affored the 'Easy Victory'....and so the Children ask; (insert your child's voice{s})


"Mommie-Momie, what did Canada Say? How did Canada respond?"


"Daddy-Daddy, tell me if Mommie is telling me the truth!"

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

you might want to read this post #37 linked herein (http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=17164&page=3) as it has some relevant information sorta like about the time(ing){s} of "stuff"....kinda....maybe....well, only if you want to....sooo.... :cool:

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So lets see, this guy didn't even mention the money, cause that is a part of the Adult perspective of things, right?

We find a man who can simply admit that he has recognized that God gave him an opportunity, in his life, and proved it out, showing him that the work that he had done, had served in the World, served the Children of the World, and the Adults of the World...

Further is the Adult perspective on things, the Money, lets estimate, a little over this time, lets say 80 countries and precluding the furthering of the need of Expenditure(s) of Tax dollars (cause no one knows just how much longer it could have gone on, or where) defending against the, now known as moot, "Works if the Imagination" self-defense, hence we will arrive at a cost saving of ('averaging' a little) 5 million dollars, per country, equals 400 million dollars saved.....Hummm, and they ignore this guy? YIKES!

So, 40 million Canadian, if you work at a job earning $100,000 per annum, pay 50% in taxes, in a 40 year career path you will pay 2 million in taxes, (Why you never hired an accountant we will never know!) so to catch up with what I had, by the Grace of God, saved the Country, you would need do that for 20 lifetimes!!

Lets see now, "responsible adults would NOT be ignoring this guy...."

Have I made my point yet?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So I want to know why I came to this site and looked at this posting, twice! refreshing the page between, and the post count did NOT change, an iota, was at 2599, and stayed at that number, while I perused this posting, twice!, on a dial up system, unregistered, or 'un-signed in'....so why didn't the post count go to 2600 when I viewed this page, twice!!!!???

[jimmy p]

maybe it had a case of page-freeze... or maybe the government is on to you! :P

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

The governement? which one? The Canadian one should be....the US one? well, no rights over me!....anyone else? no idea! (sorta).....ooooooops uhmmm, :cool:

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Funny, just reading Thursdays Montreal Gazette , well Over $100 Million dollars being assigned to "Research Chairs"/"research" to bring into Canada, Foreign researchers to offset Canada's Brain Drain....

....Yet here I sit, having demostrated an Intelligence that exceeded many others, (inasmuch as being the first at solution) and they won't even, so little as, admit that I have done it.....

......Now try to tell me that they don't know about me, that they didn't PLAN these things, that they are NOT intentionaly, and maliciously working and/or conducting their manner as to ensure that I have to stay in this country, against my will!

Try telling me that it isn't intentional, cause you'll be wasting your breath, it is, and I have known that for alot longer then most of you will ever know, just like I knew that thing about light permeating the Universe, known that one (God's Grace) for a long time now.......

BTW do you know how many letters I had written and mailed out snail mail to the Government of Canada in 1999, alone? Do you know how many e-mails I sent to pm@pm.gc.ca (The Canadian Prime Minsters Office) and a long list of others, hundreds.....and there was that e-mail that was from the Office of the PM....so they MUST know who I am, how could they miss someone who solved such a problem...

...and yet here I am still living with the homeless, in a shelter, eating at soup kitchens (when they are open) worrieing about 'them' gossiping about me, cause that is how it was done before, and I still have no protections from any of it, complained to the Government about that one too, waaaaay back, so would you wonder what my opinion of this country is? would you wonder why? need you?

What the heck is wrong with you people? tell me, cause you must be incredibly sick, mentally, to allow this to continue like this, what a disgusting statement, about, and by, a Country...Canada, what a lie!

[jimmy p]

the problem is none of us can do anything about it... what are we supposed to do??? If the Canadian government wont listen to one of their citizens, how is a 19 year old British guy gonna make a difference?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

e-mail them and ask for yourself, (I don't blame you!) but wouldn't you think they would know, they knew I posted on this site and they have seen some of what I have posted, with furthered explainations, sooo, you would tend to get people's interest, at least you would think that, unless of course everyone you ever contacted, or tried writing to, with was comletely apathetic and ignorant....

Aside from that, I don't mean to knock Science 'funding' but, they just spent $33 million, on a computer, hummm guy tells of belief in ability to produce a T.o.E. shows evidence thereof ,as both, abilities, and knowledge, proves himself further, and explicitly, by volonteering assistance to the Supreme Court, of His Country, surrendering a Work Earned as knowledge of his lifetime.....and Not a damn sound outa anyone! (except the Courts Letter of acknowledgement)

Not one person in Canada is interested in talking to me, No media people, No educators, not a single person in the Government of Canada, but and/or except, of course, the homeless/dis'enfranchised that I must live with, because of the Direct, and overt, and obvious, ignorance of me!....Nothing could be clearer!

What a place to live, in trying to prove to me how safe it is, you are ingorantly endangering me......real "bright lightbulb" 'whomever' thought (HUH??...NAH!) of that one! (That's SARCASM...case you missed it....)

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

But you see the most disgusting of elements pieces of evidence is the reason why they are buying researchers a $33 million dollar computer, because after upgrading it should have 4 teraflops of RAM computing power, 4,000 GigaBytes Per sec (Anyone tell me how long to count an Avagadroes number, at that rate) is because the don't want to waste the researchers time.....They don't want to waste their time ever hear that expression from anyone else? know where they learned to recognize that element from? Disgusted yet?

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

OH BTW, jimmy, you might not need think (or do) of anything to do, there are elections coming up soon, in Canada. and the person who is 'Prime Minister' might change (never know!) perhaps they would be the one that gives me a letter "Thanking" me, on behalf of my fellow Canadians, and then i can go out a sue the Liberal Party of Canada right into Bankruptcy!/Extinction!

:cool:
WhooooHoooooo!!!

[jimmy p]

so things could be looking up then :) i never see the point in money spent on computers... like this "deepthought" computer that plays chess.... BIG WHOOP. I still get beaten by the chess cpu on my computer... People are so lazy nowadays, i admit i'm guilty of being lazy too, but spending that much money on a computer seems like a lot of a waste...

hope you sue them for every penny...barstewards..

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

Thanks Jimmy, but the computer is a good investment for them, and should serve the researchers well....

....Can only do that if the currently ruling party loses in the next election, AND the new PM gives me a letter, (the Proof!) otherwise I am still stuck with the "same old, same old" stupidity that is currenty (apparently) the new 'Norm' in my life, not in accordance with God's Will for me I, am rather (quite!) certain, but they don't really care bout that none, either......sooooooo

God's Will Be Done!

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So in a recent conversation I heard that in the recent interview given by President Bush, he was asked what was his greatest mistake to date, apparently he admitted to having made "No mistakes" (Please correct me if this is wrong, please!) to which it was pointed out that the reality in Politics is such that admiting to mistakes can cost a Country money inasmuch as there are Fiscal responsibilities involved in running a Country, the Taxpayers purse is to be gaurded from those who would use Honest admission of error as advantage to make themselves richer with the Taxpayers monies.....so there is a sense of the reasons for the pretensciousness of political lives/life...but there is room for admission of personal error/failure, if any can be found, as that would not entail unforseen restitutional costs to the taxpayer.....

This is applicable to the situation, in my own personal life, with respect to my current position repective of the Government of Canada.....

But something else struck me, personally, as it was something that I had been reminded of, recently, in passing, by someone who 'sheltered', (At the shelter I stay in, recently, briefly) the Axiom of the Bible that tells of God telling that he (God) "Stays Distant from the Proud", begging the question of President Bush's position as a Born Again Christian, with respect to his personal relationship with God, is he in error?, or being Kept Distant? By God Because of Pride?, as that would be an error, and one that is not politically irresponsible inasmuch as there is NO cost to the Taxpayers purse for such a degree of Honsety, simple Christian Honesty, but there is a cost, to someone who willfuly self decieves, themselves, thinking that they are close to God when actions speak waaaaay louder then just about any Words you can find, cause actions always speak Truth, words? well........

This is applicable to my own suituation, in the idea of the responsibility of the Taxpayers purse, for at this moment in time, for the Government to give me a letter of proof, is to supply me the means to sue the people of Canada for the lack of reciept of that very same letter, in a timely fashion, and what it has now cost me to get to a point wherein, I can get them to respond? this need to "go public" about myself, and the Work(s) that I have, and can, do....the Homelessness is involved in that, soooo

The last (previous) Prime Minster is known for having stated that; "In Politics, the Perceptions are sometimes more important then the reality" which has some truth to it (politically speaking) but an astute politician needs to know when the reality is actually more important then the perception, and act accordingly.....

Clearly there is a need for some form of restitutuion to me for what I have had to endure in this endevour, clearly for me to go the Court route is time consuming and costly to the Canadian peoples, but worse is the potential political costs to the Counrty itself, am I acting responsibly, myself, if I can get an investigation of the Government of Canada Launched by the Supreme Court of Canada as to accomodate my right to the accreditation, hence Quite possibly disrupting the operations of the Country itself, possible causeing great damage to the political structure(s) of the Country, possibly changing the politcal landscape and nature of Canada, foreever, and what is that to cost? cause that might just be too much... to me, much safer they admit the error, we fix it, and go on.....but it is their move now, not mine......

Have a nice evening! :cool:

[Mr. Robin Parsons]

So I am just a little curious, about this writing, too...cause I would appreciate feedback, if at all possible....I cited myself, for a reason, carried the explanation, further? do you know the range of knowledge required to know the depth of knowledge that this kind of writing makes evidence of, as being within me?

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Originally Posted by Mr. Robin Parsons
*Ok then you would like to know the "relativity of light intensities", hence shadows, because even in the shadow, there is light....and one last (perhaps) insight, if you deal with "light" as what it really is, EMR (Electro-magnetic radiation) and stop dealing with it simply on the level that we see, (visually) then the entire Universe is flooded with light, everywhere! no exception, just 'relative light intensities' due to travel times, and paths....

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Just to be certain that the emboldened is understood well enough, try to realize that when I stated "everywhere", I meant e-v-e-r-y-where, as light looked at, as EMR, operating in the Universe, gives us EMR right down into the Core of a Neutron Star, permeating into the Stars very core, from the without (outside) of the star.....that gives us EMR, EMR in areas of greater activity, then more so, extreme activity, (and activity rates) while amidst the appearance of 'centers'.....comes from the Bible actually, my sourced inspirational thought, "There is NO darkness in Him..." and there is, in truth, no darkness (absence of EMR) in the Universe, anywhere!

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The second one, and the first one are both posted at/on this page:
Here (http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=5536&page=8&pp=15)

Don't know if it does it for you, (did/do you understand it all?) as it can change your perception of solid things, like rocks, or boulders, they are simply an accumulation of 'Centers' and EMR, binding itself according to rules, means that the Rock/Boulder is really made of, or composed of, 'light'/EMR...that's how "Solid" it is, and how it gives that appearance, and that reality...(too!)

* If you really want to understand shadows you need understand sourcing of light, as all Natural Light (from Stars) is cast Omni directionally, (3D) hence, no matter where you would be, you are in a directional "streaming of light", it is then assured that one side will receive more light, then the other side, hence Shadows, as not all of the light is 'blocked' (although it would seem way more appropriate to say The "medium of it's presence" is/seems more fluid about it, in it's behavior, then it would necessarily be seen, or known, as) sooooo......

[AlsoKnownAs]

So on the 19 of April at about 10 AM EST Chroot/warren had started trying to goad me into a further post war, after the lovely one with him, and Tom Mattson, to which end, he Cut off my account, as to ensure that I could no longer respond to him, censorship...he then started a thread in Theory development; "More MRP misunderstandings" which is now Google linked to either spelling of my name, Mr. Or not.

Please, tell them all! (I had asked Greg to do that But, he no longer accepts my e-mails, something about this site trying to slander me)

So, know the people you are dealing with.

For myself I no longer will post in these forums, have NOT since the above date, you can be sure this account will be shut down just as quickly, if I could sue the little **** I would.....

Thanks for the time Mr. Robin Parsons


BTW chroot, I lied, I had finished Chemsitry Physics Biology and the maths back in 1972, Oooops that's BEFORE you were BORN!!!!!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Andy]

hmmmm, what a predicament.

Take Care

[Mattius_]

Still there Mr. Robin Parson's?? Was just wondering how things have been going lately. I always tend to go over and read this thread again again so it would seem that I am displaced by your absence.

[Math Is Hard]

I wonder too... especially since the "what would you do if" and "ask a stupid quetion" threads went quiet.

[The_Professional]

The username AlsoKnownAs is also MRP, perhaps he left permanently.

[jimmy p]

Mr Robin Parsons informed me in a PM that he HAS left permanently. He managed to get on as AlsoKnownAs, sent a few PM's posted that last message and said "For myself I no longer will post in these forums".

A pity really, he was a nice guy. Eccentric, but mostly harmless :biggrin:

[Andy]

Stark Raving bonkers. his wife was quite nice though.

[Mattius_]

his wife??

[jimmy p]

Long story, one time MRP and Andy were having an arguement or something so Andy created a new user called Mrs Robin Parsons. Most amusing.