Which Book on Lie Groups and Lie Algebras is a Classic?

In summary, there are many choices for books on Lie groups and Lie algebras, and the conversation focuses on finding a classic text for understanding E8. The recommended books include "Semi-Simple Lie Algebras and their Representations" by Robert Cahn, which is free and does not refer to any physics applications, and "Representation Theory: A First Course" by Fulton and Harris, which starts off terse but becomes more readable. The conversation also mentions having trouble understanding Lisi's paper "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything" and the need for a PS viewer or PS2PDF converter to access some of the recommended books.
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waht
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I'm looking for a solid book on Lie groups and Lie algebras, there is too many choices out there. What is a classic text, if there is one?
 
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waht said:
I'm looking for a solid book on Lie groups and Lie algebras, there is too many choices out there. What is a classic text, if there is one?

Tough question.

How much rigor?

Are you interested because of the beautiful math?

Because of applications to elementary particles and quantum field theory?

Just Lie groups and Lies algebras, or representations, too.
 
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Just pure maths, grad or undergrad, but rigor not blown out of proportions. My end goal is to understand E8, and see what's it all about. Some texts I looked at are aimed at physicists, like Gilmore, or Lipkin. Amazon generates a continuous spectrum of those, I need to settle on one book (eigen-book if you will), with a reasonable eigen-price. :smile:
 
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I would also like to learn about Lie Algebra for the same reason as waht. E8 seems very interesting and Lie Algebra just seems so fundamental for quantum field theory. A great tool to have, but how should one learn it? Waht, have you checked out Lisi's paper, "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything?" I am having trouble understanding much of anything from it, and I think learning Lie Algebra would be a great start.

Here's his paper: http://arxiv.org/abs/0711.0770
 
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I too am having trouble with Lie algebras - I'm just getting into classical field theory, never mind QFT. I'm going to need to brush up on my maths to get anywhere with this.

The main problem that's foxing me with them at the moment, and I'd like to find a good answer for, is why it's the commutation relations that are fundamental and not the operators themselves.
 
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waht said:
Just pure maths, grad or undergrad, but rigor not blown out of proportions. My end goal is to understand E8, and see what's it all about.
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Semi-Simple Lie Algebras and their Representations[/URL] by Robert Cahn is a free book (wasn't free when I picked it up!) on Lie algebras that has a chapter on the exceptional algebras. This book was written for physicists, but doesn't refer to any physics applications.
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Representation Theory: A First Course[/URL] by Fulton and Harris, a standard math text, starts off terse, but becomes very readable and (maybe too) expansive in its middle. It's cool to see quark multiplet diagrams (as representations of [itex]sl\left(3 , \mathbb{C}\right) \cong \mathbb{C} \otimes su\left(3\right)[/itex]) appearing in a pure math book, even though the book doesn't identify them as such.

I have never really looked at the representations of the exceptional Lie algebras, so I can't comment on the treatment in either book.
 
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pediejo said:
I would also like to learn about Lie Algebra for the same reason as waht. E8 seems very interesting and Lie Algebra just seems so fundamental for quantum field theory. A great tool to have, but how should one learn it? Waht, have you checked out Lisi's paper, "An Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything?" I am having trouble understanding much of anything from it, and I think learning Lie Algebra would be a great start.

Yes, I'm familiar with this paper, it's the main reason why I want to learn all the Lie stuff.


George Jones said:
"[URL
Semi-Simple Lie Algebras and their Representations[/URL] by Robert Cahn is a free book (wasn't free when I picked it up!) on Lie algebras that has a chapter on the exceptional algebras. This book was written for physicists, but doesn't refer to any physics applications.

Thanks George, that's an excellent book on Lie Algebra, already learned something at first glance.
 
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I am actually having trouble viewing this book. What do I need in order to view it?
 
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The chapters are in PostScript (.ps) format, you will need a PS viewer like GhostScript to open them. Alternatively, if you have a LaTeX distribution installed, you could use the ps2pdf program which is included in that to convert the PS to PDF.
 
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You don't need LaTeX by the way, the PS2PDF converter is also freely available as a separate program:
http://www.ps2pdf.com/
 

FAQ: Which Book on Lie Groups and Lie Algebras is a Classic?

What are Lie groups and Lie algebras?

Lie groups and Lie algebras are mathematical structures used to study continuous symmetries. Lie groups are groups that are also smooth manifolds, while Lie algebras are vector spaces equipped with a bilinear operation called the Lie bracket.

What are some practical applications of Lie groups and Lie algebras?

Lie groups and Lie algebras have applications in various fields such as physics, engineering, and computer science. They are used to describe and study symmetries in physical systems, and are also used to solve differential equations and represent rotations and transformations in computer graphics.

What are some recommended books for learning about Lie groups and Lie algebras?

There are many excellent books on Lie groups and Lie algebras, but some popular options include "Lie Groups, Lie Algebras, and Representations" by Brian C. Hall, "Lie Groups and Lie Algebras for Physicists" by Ashok Das, and "Introduction to Lie Algebras and Representation Theory" by Humphreys.

Are there any prerequisites for studying Lie groups and Lie algebras?

A basic understanding of linear algebra, abstract algebra, and calculus is necessary for studying Lie groups and Lie algebras. Some knowledge of differential equations and topology may also be helpful.

How can I apply my knowledge of Lie groups and Lie algebras to my research?

Lie groups and Lie algebras have a wide range of applications in research, particularly in theoretical physics and mathematics. You can use them to study symmetries and transformations in your research problem, or to solve differential equations and analyze data. Consulting with a colleague or mentor who has experience in these topics can also provide valuable insight into potential applications.

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