What is the Mean of an Infinite Sequence?

In summary, the infinite sequence that the student was considering had a mean that was greater than any of the numbers in the sequence. The student used Wolfram-Alpha to generate the number 1.64493, which was the n'th harmonic number.
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Char. Limit
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Homework Statement


So, I was thinking about the mean of a sequence the other day, and you know how the mean of a sequence is usually written (I believe) like this?

[tex]\frac{\sum_{i=1}^n a_i}{n}[/tex]

So I was considering the mean of an infinite sequence, and I came up with an example. Now I want your help to see if I'm evaluating it right.


Homework Equations


[tex]\frac{d}{dx}[f_1(x) + f_2(x) + ... + f_n(x)] = \frac{d}{dx}f_1(x) + \frac{d}{dx}f_2(x) + ... + \frac{d}{dx}f_n(x)[/tex]

In other words, the derivative of a sum is the sum of the derivatives.

The Attempt at a Solution



So the sequence that I picked is:

[tex]a_i = \frac{i-1}{i}[/tex]

Thus, I believe the mean of every number in this sequence would be...

[tex]lim_{n\rightarrow\infty} \frac{\sum_{i=1}^n \frac{i-1}{i}}{n} = lim_{n\rightarrow\infty} \frac{\sum_{i=1}^n 1 - \frac{1}{i}}{n}[/tex]

Because this limit, if directly evaluated, would yield infinity/infinity, I'll try using L'Hopital's rule and the rule that says the derivative of a sum is the sum of the derivatives...

[tex]lim_{n\rightarrow\infty} \frac{\frac{d}{dn}\sum_{i=1}^n 1 - \frac{1}{i}}{\frac{d}{dn} n} = lim_{n\rightarrow\infty} \frac{\sum_{i=1}^n \frac{d}{di}\left(1-\frac{1}{i}\right)}{\frac{d}{dn} n}[/tex]

So, these derivatives can be evaluated, and so I will, yielding...

[tex]lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}\frac{\sum_{i=1}^n \frac{1}{i^2}}{1}[/tex]

So, I just need to find what the infinite sum from 1 to infinity of 1/i^2 is.

Using Wolfram-Alpha, I generate the number...

[tex]\frac{\pi^2}{6} = 1.64493...[/tex]

So, how did I generate, from a sum of a sequence of numbers from 0 (n-1/n for n=1) to 1 (the limit as n approaches infinity), a mean greater than any of the numbers? Is there a mistake here?
 
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Char. Limit said:
[tex]lim_{n\rightarrow\infty} \frac{\frac{d}{dn}\sum_{i=1}^n 1 - \frac{1}{i}}{\frac{d}{dn} n} = lim_{n\rightarrow\infty} \frac{\sum_{i=1}^n \frac{d}{di}\left(1-\frac{1}{i}\right)}{\frac{d}{dn} n}[/tex]

I'm fairly certain that this step isn't justified.
 
  • #3
jgens said:
I'm fairly certain that this step isn't justified.

Oh, I see. So I'm guessing that I have to instead first evaluate the partial sum, then differentiate it? Or do I even have to do the latter? Perhaps I can just divide the partial sum by n and then take the limit.

Just wondering, how exactly can you evaluate the partial sum of 1/i?
 
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Yeah, you have to evaluate the partial sum before taking any derivatives, because inside the sum, n isn't even a defined variable.

The way I would do it doesn't involve any derivatives at all, it basically does come down to dividing the partial sum by n and then taking the limit. The first term is easy, of course, but for the second term you wind up with
[tex]\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{1}{n}\sum_{i=1}^{n}\frac{1}{i}[/tex]
The result of that sum (without the 1/n in front) is called the n'th harmonic number. Since you're taking the limit as n goes to infinity, you can get an approximation for the value of the sum (at large n) by converting it to an integral. Or you can look up the properties of harmonic numbers in your favorite math reference, including approximations for the sequence at large values of n.
 

What is the mean of an infinite sequence?

The mean of an infinite sequence is the average value of all the terms in the sequence. It is calculated by adding all the terms in the sequence and dividing the sum by the number of terms in the sequence.

Is it possible to find the mean of an infinite sequence?

Yes, it is possible to find the mean of an infinite sequence as long as the sequence has a well-defined pattern and each term can be calculated without any error. However, in some cases, the mean may not exist or may be infinite.

How is the mean of an infinite sequence different from the mean of a finite sequence?

The main difference between the mean of an infinite sequence and the mean of a finite sequence is that the mean of an infinite sequence is calculated by considering all the terms in the sequence, while the mean of a finite sequence is calculated by considering only a limited number of terms.

What is the significance of the mean of an infinite sequence in mathematics?

The mean of an infinite sequence is an important concept in mathematics as it helps in the study of infinite series and sequences. It is also used in various mathematical applications, such as in probability and statistics, to find the expected value of a random variable.

Can the mean of an infinite sequence be negative?

Yes, the mean of an infinite sequence can be negative. It is possible for an infinite sequence to have both positive and negative terms, which can result in a negative mean value. The sign of the mean is determined by the overall trend of the terms in the sequence.

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