Velocity of a galaxy, is it the rotating speed around itself?

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The discussion clarifies key concepts in astronomy related to galaxy measurements and classifications. Distances to celestial objects, such as M13 and M31, are measured from Earth, not the galactic center. The term "velocity of a galaxy" refers to its radial velocity towards or away from Earth, rather than its rotational speed. The unit "MAG" denotes magnitude, which includes both apparent and absolute measurements. Additionally, clusters, whether open or globular, possess a center of gravity, influencing their stability and rotation.

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  • Understanding of light-years (LY) as a distance measurement in astronomy
  • Familiarity with radial velocity concepts in celestial mechanics
  • Knowledge of astronomical magnitude (MAG) and its implications
  • Basic comprehension of galaxy and cluster classifications (open vs. globular)
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  • Research the concept of radial velocity in astronomy
  • Study the differences between apparent and absolute magnitude
  • Explore the characteristics of open and globular clusters
  • Learn about the methods used to measure distances to astronomical objects
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good day,
well the coming fall I'm entering the astronomy faculty
and i started from now to study the NGC and M objects...
while i was searching for the names and numbers on the web..
i have found several descriptions, which i didn't understand:
1) when they display the distance in LY, is it the distance from the center of the galaxy through the center of ours or what?
2) when they talk about the velocity of a galaxy, is it the rotating speed around itself?
3) when they talk about brightness, the unit used is MAG, can anyone explain the meaning and the use of this parameter?
4) i do know galaxies have centers of gravity, why clusters don't.. if they do have then, they should have also a rotating speed?

i think that's it for now.. :)
it sure is beginner's basic info
but i would appreciate your responses
thanks
Joe
 
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A_I_ said:
good day,
well the coming fall I'm entering the astronomy faculty
and i started from now to study the NGC and M objects...
while i was searching for the names and numbers on the web..
i have found several descriptions, which i didn't understand:
1) when they display the distance in LY, is it the distance from the center of the galaxy through the center of ours or what?
2) when they talk about the velocity of a galaxy, is it the rotating speed around itself?
3) when they talk about brightness, the unit used is MAG, can anyone explain the meaning and the use of this parameter?
4) i do know galaxies have centers of gravity, why clusters don't.. if they do have then, they should have also a rotating speed?

i think that's it for now.. :)
it sure is beginner's basic info
but i would appreciate your responses
thanks
Joe
1) The distance is measured from US (Earth) and some closer objects can be very accurate, but the precision drops as distance increases. For M13, as example, it is usually listed at ~22,500 LY. That is from us, not the galactic center. M31 (Andromeda galaxy) used to be listed as ~2.2 million LY, but has been revised to ~2.9 million LY. At that distance, from us or our galaxy center really wouldn't matter.

2) "The velocity of a galaxy" would almost always mean its radial velocity toward or away from us, not its rotation speed.

3) MAG is magnitude. There is "apparent" and "absolute". see: http://www.astronomynotes.com/starprop/s4.htm for both.

4) What kind of clusters? Open clusters or Galactic (globular) clusters? Any associated cluster will have a "center of gravity", it just depends on whether the gravity vs. the velocity of stars is enough to hold the association (cluster) together. Open clusters usually disassociate and Globular clusters usually stay "bound" for billions of years and do rotate as well as revolve around their host galaxy.
 
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