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Proof of Golbach's conjecture and the twin prime conjecture
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Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around a paper found on arXiv that claims to provide proofs for Golbach's conjecture and the twin prime conjecture. Participants express varying opinions on the validity and seriousness of the author's claims, focusing on the mathematical reasoning presented in the paper.
Discussion Character
- Debate/contested
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Main Points Raised
- Some participants question the legitimacy of the proofs, suggesting that the author's formula appears arbitrary and lacks sufficient explanation.
- Others assert that the paper contains multiple mistakes and fails to prove certain areas, with one participant expressing intent to demonstrate these flaws.
- A participant expresses skepticism, labeling the author as a "loon" and critiquing the mathematical observations made in the paper.
- Conversely, another participant defends the author, claiming to have several of his papers and noting that he has made claims about other significant mathematical conjectures.
- Some participants speculate on the author's reputation within the academic community, with one suggesting they will inquire locally about the author's credibility.
- There is a sentiment that if the claims in the paper were valid, they would have garnered significant attention in the mathematical community.
- One participant suggests that the paper is designed to impress those without a strong mathematical background through its use of complex equations.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of the paper. There are multiple competing views, with some defending the author and others strongly criticizing the work.
Contextual Notes
Participants express uncertainty about the author's mathematical claims and the implications of the paper, highlighting a lack of thorough examination of the content.
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TenaliRaman
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Interesting paper!
I believe that the author gave more explanation on his formula to his P(N). Right now to me it seems to have been just plucked out of thin air.
Anyways, intelligent nitpicks should be left for the more qualified.
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I believe that the author gave more explanation on his formula to his P(N). Right now to me it seems to have been just plucked out of thin air.
Anyways, intelligent nitpicks should be left for the more qualified.
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Zurtex
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This is not a proof, there are multiple mistakes and they have neglected to prove some areas which I believe to be untrue anyway. I need to head off to the shop, I might sit down later and try and demonstrate why this isn't true unless someone else has either done this or in fact shown me to be wrong.
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I go with loon.
As far as I can tell, the only thing he's done is to observe that there are three distinct numbers of the form:
\cos 2\pi(\frac{j}{3} + (N - 3)) + i \sin 2\pi(\frac{j}{3} + (N-3))
and two distinct numbers of the form
\cos 2\pi(\frac{j}{2} + (N+1 - 3)) + i \sin 2\pi(\frac{j}{2} + (N+1-3))
when j and N are integers.
As far as I can tell, the only thing he's done is to observe that there are three distinct numbers of the form:
\cos 2\pi(\frac{j}{3} + (N - 3)) + i \sin 2\pi(\frac{j}{3} + (N-3))
and two distinct numbers of the form
\cos 2\pi(\frac{j}{2} + (N+1 - 3)) + i \sin 2\pi(\frac{j}{2} + (N+1-3))
when j and N are integers.
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TenaliRaman
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Glad to know, i am not the only one not thinking that the guy is a loon. I thought people took that paper seriously or something, since no one answered it for quite some time!
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This guy is awesome. I have a number of his papers on my computer. He's also "proven" twin primes, Riemann hypothesis, and of course Fermat's Last Theorem.
This is at least a year old, does arxiv ever take out the trash?
This is at least a year old, does arxiv ever take out the trash?
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Zurtex
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I know a very pretty girl who goes to a college near that university, I'll ask if she knows whether people take him seriously around there.
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shmoe
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The "very pretty girl" contact...very good 
If they do take him seriously, they must think he's a mathematical god. On arxiv, he's also "proven" the Euler-Masceroni constant is irrational.
If they do take him seriously, they must think he's a mathematical god. On arxiv, he's also "proven" the Euler-Masceroni constant is irrational.
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Icebreaker
The only point of that paper is to impress the math-illiterate with fancy-looking equations.
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it seems clear that if any of those things had been proven the news would have circumnavigated the globe by now. hence the arguments are pretty likely to be bogus. admitedly i have not read the paper, but i am not likely to either.
but if someone gets a date out of it, hey all is not lost.
but if someone gets a date out of it, hey all is not lost.
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