[2 problems] Transverse Waves, Superpostion & Reflection

In summary, the first question involves finding the times at which a snapshot of a transverse wave traveling along a string at 9.6 m/s could have been taken, with the given values of A, ω, and k. The second question involves finding the next time the string looks exactly as it does at t = 0, with the assumption that the reflected pulse has the same amplitude and wavelength as the incident pulse. The correct answer for the second question is 16 seconds.
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Question 1
1. Homework Statement

The drawing shows a snapshot of a transverse wave traveling along a string at 9.6 m/s. The equation for the wave is y(x, t) = A cos(ωt + kx).
At what times could this snapshot have been taken? (Give the three smallest nonnegative possibilities.)

The Attempt at a Solution


Found the following:
A= 2mm
ω= 1507.96447 rad/s
k= 157.07963 rad/m

time1= 1.04ms
time2= 5.21ms
time3= 9.38ms

The problem I have is that time 1 is incorrect while the other 2 are. To find the times, I used the setup found in this post but with my values:
https://www.physicsforums.com/showpost.php?p=2690152&postcount=6

Not sure what I could be doing wrong. Also, could someone explain where the person got the 2pi, 4pi, and 6pi in the above link? Don't quite understand it.Question 2
1. Homework Statement

The pulse of the figure travels to the right on a string whose ends at x = 0 and x = 12.0 m are both fixed in place. Imagine a reflected pulse that begins to move onto the string at an endpoint at the same time the incident pulse reaches that endpoint. The superposition of the incident and reflected pulses gives the shape of the string. When is the next time t that the string referred to in the figure looks exactly as it does at t = 0? (Answer in seconds.)

Image:
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I have no idea what to do for this one. Just plain stumped. Any tips such as what equation(s) to use would be very helpful.

Thanks in advance to anyone that can help me with these 2 problems!
 
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What is the correct answer for time 1? I think your calculations are correct.

The pi's come in because they satisfy the equation:

y(x, t) = A cos (wt + kx)
0.002m = 0.002m cos ((1508 rad/s)(t) + (157 rad/m)(0.03m))
1 = cos ((1508 rad/s)(t) + (157 rad/m)(0.03m))
arccos(1) = (1508 rad/s)(t) + (157 rad/m)(0.03m)

arccos(1) = 0, 2pi, 4pi etc..


The second problem is confusing, I don't understand this part: "Imagine a reflected pulse that begins to move onto the string at an endpoint at the same time the incident pulse reaches that endpoint."

The pulse in the picture starts with a positive amplitude, once it hits the right end it will be reflected and have a negative amplitude. If a "reflected pulse" begins at the same time the incident pulse reaches the endpoint, I would think you'd end up with a wave that has an amplitude twice that of each individual wave because they would be in perfect constructive interference both pointing down at the same time and place. This is assuming the reflected wave has the same wavelength and amplitude of the incident wave, but they don't specify what the second reflected pulse even looks like, or what its state was before it got reflected.

If the question was:
"The pulse of the figure travels to the right on a string whose ends at x = 0 and x = 12.0 m are both fixed in place. When is the next time t that the string referred to in the figure looks exactly as it does at t = 0? (Answer in seconds.)"

Then the trick is knowing that the wave won't look the same the very next time the crest is at x=1.5m, because it has been reflected and is now pointing down. Is there any more information for question 2? If not, then :confused:
 
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For Q1, in which direction does the wave travel, to the left or to the right? This affects the value of k, since k can be either positive or negative.

For Q2, PiTHON almost got it. The assumption which must be made here is the wave won't lose its energy due to the collision, so that the amplitude of the wave stays unchanged after being reflected (note: Amplitude is a positive quantity. It always is. The reflected wave undergoes 180 degrees phase change relatively to the incident wave). After the 1st collision, the wave gets reflected the 1st time. Why isn't there the 2nd time, the 3rd time, etc? :smile:
 
  • #4
Q1. U don't even need to bother about k. Just take the displacement of the particle at x=0.

Q2. Is the answer 7s??
 
  • #5
@PiTHON:
I don't know the correct answer for time1. Using this webassign thing, and there's no answer key. If an answer's incorrect, it'll tell you, but won't tell you the correct answer.
& thank you for the explanation about the pi's. I understand now.

@hikaru:
Q1: The wave travels to the left.
Q2: This seems like it'll take a lot of counting...

@Swap:
Q1: Would that be 0? If so, I've already tried that, and it was incorrect.
Q2: Unfortunately, it isn't. Thanks anyways.
Edit: Got the answer for Q2. It was 16 seconds. Took a piece of graph paper, drew everything out, and started counting. Is there an easier way to do this?
 
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Swap said:
Q1. U don't even need to bother about k. Just take the displacement of the particle at x=0.

You're wrong. Substitute your answers of t in y at any value of x but not 0, you will find some don't fit the graph.

mfu said:
Edit: Got the answer for Q2. It was 16 seconds. Took a piece of graph paper, drew everything out, and started counting. Is there an easier way to do this?

Is there really a lot of counting in this problem particularly? :smile:
I believe there isn't an easier way.
 
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So am I to assume that there is nothing wrong with Q1 and that WebAssign is being a PoS?

And thanks to everyone that helped. I really appreciate it.
 

Related to [2 problems] Transverse Waves, Superpostion & Reflection

1. What are transverse waves?

Transverse waves are a type of mechanical wave in which the particles of the medium vibrate perpendicular to the direction of the wave's propagation. These waves are commonly observed in electromagnetic waves and in waves traveling through solids, such as seismic waves.

2. How does superposition apply to waves?

Superposition is the principle that states when two or more waves intersect, the resulting wave is the sum of the individual waves. This applies to transverse waves as well, where the displacements of the particles are added together to determine the overall displacement of the resulting wave.

3. What is the law of reflection?

The law of reflection states that when a wave, such as light or sound, is incident upon a surface, the angle of incidence is equal to the angle of reflection. This is true for both transverse and longitudinal waves.

4. How do transverse waves differ from longitudinal waves?

Transverse waves have particles that vibrate perpendicular to the direction of the wave, while longitudinal waves have particles that vibrate parallel to the direction of the wave. This results in different properties and behaviors, such as the ability of transverse waves to be polarized.

5. What are some examples of reflection of transverse waves?

Some common examples of reflection of transverse waves include light reflecting off a mirror, sound waves reflecting off a wall, and ocean waves reflecting off a cliff. These reflections can be observed in everyday life and are important in various scientific fields, such as optics and acoustics.

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