Can a Straight Line Intersect a Curve in Four Distinct Points?

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In summary, a straight line can intersect a curve in four distinct points when the curve has a point of inflection. This can be determined by graphing the equations or using calculus. This intersection can have significant implications on the behavior of the curve. It is also possible for a straight line to intersect a curve in more than four distinct points, such as when the curve has multiple points of inflection or a loop or cusp. Real-life examples of this include roller coaster tracks and parabolic arches.
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For which real numbers $c$ is there a straight line that intersects the curve $x^4+9x^3+cx^2+9x+4$ in four distinct points?

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Congratulations to MarkFL, kiwi, Opalg, and kaliprasad for their correct solutions. kiwi's solution follows:

Hypothesis: The required line can be formed iff the curvature of p(x) changes sign twice.

Proof:
Suppose we can draw the required line through p(x). We can rotate and translate the axes until this line coincides with the x axis. By inspection in this frame p(x) has either two maxima separated by a minima or it has two minima separated by a maxima. At the maxima the curvature has opposite sign to that at the minima so curvature of p(x) changes sign twice.

Conversely, suppose the curvature of p(x) changes sign twice. We divide p(x) into three parts each with curvature of just one sign. We now draw a line that intersects the centre part twice. The remaining (left and right) parts each intersect the line once and we are done.

The curvature of p(x) is the inverse of the radius of curvature and is given by:
\[\frac 1R = \frac{p''(x)}{(1+[p'(x)]^2)^{\frac 32}}\]

The curvature changes sign twice so $p''(x)$ must have two distinct roots.

\[p(x)=x^4+9x^3+cx^2+9x+4\]

\[\therefore p''(x)=12x^2+54x+2c\]

The discriminant is \(54^2-96c\)

which is zero when \(c=30\frac{3}{8}\).

Therefore, there are two changes of curvature and hence the required line can be drawn iff \(c \lt 30\frac 38\)
 

Related to Can a Straight Line Intersect a Curve in Four Distinct Points?

1. Can a straight line intersect a curve in four distinct points?

Yes, it is possible for a straight line to intersect a curve in four distinct points. This occurs when the curve has a point of inflection, which is a point where the curve changes direction and the slope of the curve is equal to the slope of the straight line.

2. How can I determine if a straight line intersects a curve in four distinct points?

To determine if a straight line intersects a curve in four distinct points, you can graph the equation of the curve and the equation of the straight line and see where they intersect. Alternatively, you can use calculus to find the points of intersection by setting the equations equal to each other and solving for the x values.

3. What are the implications of a straight line intersecting a curve in four distinct points?

If a straight line intersects a curve in four distinct points, it means that the curve has a point of inflection. This point of inflection can have significant effects on the behavior of the curve, such as changing from concave up to concave down or vice versa.

4. Is it possible for a straight line to intersect a curve in more than four distinct points?

Yes, it is possible for a straight line to intersect a curve in more than four distinct points. This can occur if the curve has multiple points of inflection or if the curve has a loop or cusp, which can create additional points of intersection with the straight line.

5. Are there any real-life examples of a straight line intersecting a curve in four distinct points?

There are many real-life examples of a straight line intersecting a curve in four distinct points. For example, a roller coaster track often has a point of inflection where the slope of the track changes, and a straight line representing the ground may intersect the track in four distinct points. Another example is a parabolic arch, where a straight line representing the base of the arch may intersect the curve of the arch in four distinct points.

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