Degrees of Freedom in Lagrangian Mechanics for a Fractal Path

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Degree of freedom along a strange curve from lagrangian mechanics point of view.
Degree of freedom along a parabola, or any such tame curve, is one from lagrangian mechanics point of view. It makes sense. However how does degree of freedom accompany a space filling curve. Intuitively degree of freedom is not two, since not all motions are possible along the curve. How would lagrangian mechanics work on a such curve. A fractal can have a non integer dimension, would that make its degree of freedom also a non integer.
 
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How does Lagrangian mechanics work if motion is confined to a curve which is nowhere differentiable, as a fractal curve almost certainly is?
 
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That's an interesting question.

The boundary to the Mandelbrot Set has a Hausdorff Dimension of 2 (as demonstrated here - jstor.org). That's an integer - but still a problem because it's the "wrong" integer. (The standard dimension of a curve enclosing an area is one.). Moreover, I expect that given any complex (r,i) coordinate on that curve, a dr and di (or dx,dy if you prefer) can be determined. If that's true, then the degrees of freedom would seem to be solid equal to one.

But it is also interesting if the dr,di cannot be computed. It would a geometric example of something inherently undefined - reminiscent of HUP.
 
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Related to Degrees of Freedom in Lagrangian Mechanics for a Fractal Path

What are degrees of freedom in Lagrangian Mechanics?

In Lagrangian Mechanics, degrees of freedom refer to the minimum number of independent coordinates required to specify the position of a system completely. Each degree of freedom represents a direction in which a particle or system can move.

How are degrees of freedom related to fractal paths in Lagrangian Mechanics?

In the context of fractal paths, degrees of freedom determine the complexity of the path taken by a particle or system. Fractal paths may exhibit non-integer dimensions, which can affect the number of degrees of freedom required to describe the system.

Can fractal paths have a fractional number of degrees of freedom?

Yes, fractal paths can have a fractional number of degrees of freedom due to their non-integer dimensions. This means that the motion of a particle along a fractal path may require a non-integer number of independent coordinates to fully describe its position.

How do degrees of freedom in Lagrangian Mechanics impact the behavior of systems with fractal paths?

The number of degrees of freedom in Lagrangian Mechanics influences the dynamics and behavior of systems with fractal paths. Systems with a higher number of degrees of freedom may exhibit more complex and unpredictable behavior, especially when dealing with fractal paths.

Are there any practical applications of studying degrees of freedom in Lagrangian Mechanics for fractal paths?

Studying degrees of freedom in Lagrangian Mechanics for fractal paths can have practical applications in various fields, such as physics, engineering, and computer science. Understanding the relationship between degrees of freedom and fractal paths can lead to insights into the behavior of complex systems and help in designing more efficient algorithms and models.

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