Elliptic function - does limit at infinity exist?

Ok, I think I get that a fixed ##m## can cover the whole plane with varying ##\epsilon##, but what about a fixed ##\epsilon##?I guess you mean a fixed ##|z|##. This is true: if we fix a complex number z, then the whole line ##\{z+mw, \ m \in \mathbb{Z}\}## covers the plane. But if we fix z, we can also choose ##\epsilon## as small as we want, and then |f(z+mw)-c|<##\epsilon## only for those m that are not too large.
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binbagsss
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Homework Statement



I am wanting to show that

##lim_{z\to\infty} f(z)=c## does not exist for ##c \in C##, ##C## the complex plane, where ##f## is non-constant periodic meromorphic function. (elliptic)

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The Attempt at a Solution



So I want to proove this is not true
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Beginning with the definition:

For any ##\epsilon >0## can find a ##R## s.t ##|z|>R \implies |f(z)-c|<\epsilon## (1)

Now let ##w## be a period.

Then we also have

##|f(z+mw)-c|<\epsilon##(2), for ##m## some integer

Now I attach the solution:

yoyo.png


Questions:

- I thought that (2) would hold automatically, from (1) by periodicty, without additionally needing to have ##|z+mw |>R ##

- Also this would hold following from (1), if not using periodicity, but simply looking at ##|z+mw |>R ##, for ##z## large since a shift by some constant is insignificant? Therefore in the solution, I do not understand the need to specify both, by periodicity and include this condition ##|z+mw |>R ##

- Finally I do not understand the conclusion itself, perhaps due to being unclear on the above points- I understand the goal is to show that if this limit exists it implies that ##f## is holomoprhic (since I then have the theorem that an elliptic function holomorphic is constant, and so proof by contradiction).

I do not understand the conclusion that

##|f(z)-c|=|f(z+mw)-c|<1## (3) implies the ##f(z)## is a bounded holomorphic function.

My interpretation is that since we can vary ##m## to cover a range of values of ##f(z)## which are bounded this conclusion is made? So ##m## generating a lot of points? However isn't this only for large ##z## ? We have only showed bounded for large ##z##? (When ##|z|>R## is satisfied)? Or am I barking up the wrong tree as to why we conclude ##f(z)## is constant from (3)?


Many thanks in advance
 
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Your (2) is valid for |z|>R, but that is not really what you want to show.

You want to show that |f(z)-c| < ##\epsilon## for all z, including those not larger than R in magnitude. So you need the reverse direction. Start with those z, then find (using periodicity) a complex value with a magnitude larger than R.

If f(z) does not differ from c by more than 1 for all z, it is bounded. A bounded meromorphic function is constant.
 
  • #3
mfb said:
Start with those z, then find (using periodicity) a complex value with a magnitude larger than R.

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So this is ##|z+mw|## but then how does this show that |f(z)-c| < ##\epsilon## for all z, including those not larger than R in magnitude?

Because we can choose any ##m## integer to make this small?
 
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We can choose an m such that |z+mw|>R, and there we know that |f(z+mw)-c|< ϵ.
 
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mfb said:
We can choose an m such that |z+mw|>R,

but that's large ##m## isn't it? so again only large ##z##, not all ##z##?
mfb said:
and there we know that |f(z+mw)|< ϵ.

I'm not understanding, what's happened to the ##c##?
 
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binbagsss said:
but that's large ##m## isn't it? so again only large ##z##, not all ##z##?
It is sufficient that some m exists, it does not matter how large it is. z can be anything.
I'm not understanding, what's happened to the ##c##?
I forgot it. Should be in there of course.
 
  • #7
mfb said:
It is sufficient that some m exists, it does not matter how large it is. z can be anything.
I forgot it. Should be in there of course.

Ok, think I may understand at last, so whilst ##|f(z+mw)-c|<\epsilon## could simply follow from a condition only on ##z## , ##|z|>R## , by periodicity, this is still only considering large ##z##.

However if we instead have ##|z+mw|>R##, than the periodicity can be used to make |z+mw| large through ##m## and not ##z##, and so it holds for small ##z## too?
 
  • #8
I don't understand your last post.

Let's make an example, maybe that is easier to understand.

##\epsilon=0.01##, R=1, w=0.5, c=3.
For |z|>1, we know that |f(z)-3|<0.01, or, in words, f(z) is close to 3. We want to show that f(z) is close to 3 everywhere.

What about z=0.2? We don't have direct condition on that, because 0.2<R. But we know f(0.2)=f(0.7)=f(1.2), and |f(1.2)-3|<0.01, i. e. f(1.2) is close to 3. Therefore, |f(0.2)-3|<0.01, which means f(0.2) is close to 3 as well.
z=-0.4+0.2i? Same idea: f(-0.4+0.2i) = f(1.1+0.2i), and |1.1+0.2i|>1. Again we can conclude that |f(-0.4+0.2i)-3|<0.01.

This approach works for all z with |z|<1. Therefore, |f(z)-3|<0.01 for all z.
We can repeat this with every ##\epsilon>0##, and conclude that |f(z)-3|<##\epsilon## for all ##\epsilon##. Therefore, f(z)=3 everywhere.
 
  • #9
mfb said:
Your (2) is valid for |z|>R, but that is not really what you want to show.

You want to show that |f(z)-c| < ##\epsilon## for all z, including those not larger than R in magnitude. So you need the reverse direction. Start with those z, then find (using periodicity) a complex value with a magnitude larger than R.

If f(z) does not differ from c by more than 1 for all z, it is bounded. A bounded meromorphic function is constant.

This doesn't need to be ##1## right? The more general definition is |f(z)-c| < ##\epsilon## for ##0< \epsilon <1 ##?
 
  • #10
mfb said:
We can repeat this with every ##\epsilon>0##, and conclude that |f(z)-3|<##\epsilon## for all ##\epsilon##. Therefore, f(z)=3 everywhere.

Ahh okay thanks, I think this answers my next question: ##m## is integer so for a fixed ##\epsilon## with the procedure you descried you could only cover a discrete set of points in the complex plane but then by varying ##\epsilon## you can cover continuous points so the whole complex plane? thanks.
 
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binbagsss said:
This doesn't need to be ##1## right? The more general definition is |f(z)-c| < ##\epsilon## for ##0< \epsilon <1 ##?
It works with every positive real number, yes.
binbagsss said:
Ahh okay thanks, I think this answers my next question: ##m## is integer so for a fixed ##\epsilon## with the procedure you descried you could only cover a discrete set of points in the complex plane but then by varying ##\epsilon## you can cover continuous points so the whole complex plane? thanks.
No, you can cover the whole plane with a single value of ##\epsilon##.
Check the example in post 8. I picked z=0.2 and z=-0.4+0.2i as examples, but it works for every z.
 

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