Explaining the Concepts of Force and Energy

In summary, work is defined as the exertion of a force over a distance parallel to the force. However, in some cases, like with a person lifting a weight, no energy is changed even though a force is exerted. This is because the person is not doing any external work and the internal energy required to hold the weight in place is not considered. Additionally, the position of the muscles also affects the amount of energy expended. In the case of an object in space with equal forces acting on it, but no acceleration, the work done can be calculated by the change in velocity over time.
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1. The dilemma
Work (change in energy) is defined as the exertion of a force over a distance parallel to the force.

So if force is exerted, but nothing is moved (presumably with two immovable objects), then no energy is changed.

But think about the dilemma with a person lifting 100 pounds above his head. He exerts a force of 100 pounds to counter the weight, and say he keeps it above his head for 1 hour. According to the work equation, the person has changed 0 energy in doing this act.

But he has continually exerted a force of 100 pounds for 1 hour, and now he is very tired. But according to work, he has spent 0 energy.

What am I missing?
 
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Another question:

Let there be an object of mass 1 kg in space. There is a constant force F1 acting on the left and F2 acting on the right. F1=F2. The object observes no acceleration. But the object was moving in space at a constant velocity of 1 m/s to the left.

The object moves for 10 seconds.

How much work has F1 done on the object?
 
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HaoPhysics said:
1. The dilemma
Work (change in energy) is defined as the exertion of a force over a distance parallel to the force.

So if force is exerted, but nothing is moved (presumably with two immovable objects), then no energy is changed.

But think about the dilemma with a person lifting 100 pounds above his head. He exerts a force of 100 pounds to counter the weight, and say he keeps it above his head for 1 hour. According to the work equation, the person has changed 0 energy in doing this act.

But he has continually exerted a force of 100 pounds for 1 hour, and now he is very tired. But according to work, he has spent 0 energy.

What am I missing?

He's not doing any external work and, if the weight wasn't too heavy, he would only get tired very slowly compared with lifting the weight repeatedly.

But, it takes internal (biomechanical) energy to keep muscles in a locked position, Also, this work is dependent on whether the muscles are in a comfortable position.

If you put the weight on a table, the table wouldn't get tired supporting the weight and wouldn't need a fuel supply.
 
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HaoPhysics said:
Another question:

Let there be an object of mass 1 kg in space. There is a constant force F1 acting on the left and F2 acting on the right. F1=F2. The object observes no acceleration. But the object was moving in space at a constant velocity of 1 m/s to the left.

The object moves for 10 seconds.

How much work has F1 done on the object?

I'm sure you can work that out for yourself.
 
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PeroK said:
He's not doing any external work and, if the weight wasn't too heavy, he would only get tired very slowly compared with lifting the weight repeatedly.

But, it takes internal (biomechanical) energy to keep muscles in a locked position, Also, this work is dependent on whether the muscles are in a comfortable position.

If you put the weight on a table, the table wouldn't get tired supporting the weight and wouldn't need a fuel supply.

That is true that it is much less tiring than exerting a force greater than 100 pounds to lift it up and down repeatedly. And your point about a table needing fuel makes a lot of sense.
 

Related to Explaining the Concepts of Force and Energy

1. What is force?

Force is a physical quantity that describes the push or pull on an object. It is a vector quantity, meaning it has both magnitude and direction. Force can cause an object to accelerate, change direction, or deform.

2. What are the different types of forces?

There are four fundamental forces in nature: gravitational force, electromagnetic force, strong nuclear force, and weak nuclear force. Other types of forces include frictional force, tension force, normal force, and applied force.

3. How is force measured?

The standard unit for force is the Newton (N), which is defined as the force required to accelerate a mass of 1 kilogram by 1 meter per second squared. Other common units of force include pounds (lb) and kilogram-force (kgf).

4. What is energy?

Energy is a scalar quantity that describes the ability of a physical system to do work. It comes in many forms, including kinetic energy, potential energy, thermal energy, chemical energy, and electromagnetic energy.

5. How are force and energy related?

Force and energy are closely related. Force is required to do work and transfer energy from one object to another. In turn, energy can cause an object to experience a force. For example, when an object is lifted, work is done on it, and it gains gravitational potential energy. When the object is dropped, this potential energy is converted into kinetic energy, causing the object to experience a force of gravity pulling it towards the ground.

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