High n transitions (eg 109-108) are observed in excited He...

In summary, transitions between n=109 to n=108 have been observed in highly excited helium atoms and the Bohr model is a valid approximation in this case. This is because the interaction between the outer electron and the inner electron/nucleus can be approximated as a Coulomb interaction, where the inner electron is combined with the nucleus. When quantifying the Bohr model for this transition, the atomic number of the nucleus would be used, and the increased mass of the nucleus does not have a significant effect. The Bohr atom model can be used to solve for unknowns such as energy, velocity, and radius, and is equally valid for this modified helium atom as it is for a hydrogen atom.
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Transitions between n=109 to n=108 have been observed in highly excited helium atoms and in this case the Bohr model is a valid approximation. Why is this?

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I'm having some problems with this question and it probably comes down to a lack of understanding.
I think it may be because the electron that undergoes this transition is so far from the nucleus/the other e- that we can assume they don't interact with one another (such that Bohr model is valid) but I'm not overly sure/don't understand enough.

Any help would be greatly appreciated thank you!
 
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The other electron is near the nucleus, as you said. What charge does the nucleus have? What charge does the combination of nucleus plus inner electron have? The two electrons will interact, but the interaction will be one of a Coulomb type interaction, where the inner electron is combined with the nucleus rather than moving freely in a somewhat unpredictable manner. If you were to quantify the Bohr model, to compute the wavelength of this transition, what ## Z ## (atomic number of nucleus) would you use? Additional item, does the increased mass of the nucleus have any appreciable effect? What is the mass that is used in the Bohr model? ## \\ ## Note: The Bohr atom model uses three equations: (c.g.s. units) 1) Angular momentum ## L=mvr=n \hbar ## ## \ ## 2) Coulomb force =centripetal force for circular motion ## Ze^2/r^2=mv^2/r ## ##\ ## 3) Energy ## E_n=(1/2)mv^2-Ze^2/r ##. Solve for unknowns ## E_n, \, v, \, r ##. Are these equations equally valid for this modified helium atom as they are for a hydrogen atom?
 
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Related to High n transitions (eg 109-108) are observed in excited He...

1. Why are high n transitions observed in excited helium atoms?

High n transitions are observed in excited helium atoms because as an atom becomes excited, one or more of its electrons move to a higher energy level. This higher energy level is represented by a higher value of n, the principal quantum number. As the electron falls back down to its ground state, it emits a photon of light with a specific wavelength, corresponding to the energy difference between the two energy levels.

2. How are high n transitions in helium atoms related to the emission spectrum?

High n transitions in helium atoms are related to the emission spectrum because each transition between energy levels corresponds to a specific wavelength of light being emitted. When these wavelengths are separated and analyzed, they create a unique pattern of lines known as the emission spectrum, which can be used to identify the elements present in a sample.

3. What is the significance of high n transitions in helium atoms?

The significance of high n transitions in helium atoms lies in their ability to reveal information about the electron energy levels and structure of the atom. By studying the wavelengths of light emitted during these transitions, scientists can gain a deeper understanding of the behavior and properties of helium atoms.

4. How do high n transitions in helium atoms differ from other types of transitions?

High n transitions in helium atoms differ from other types of transitions in that they involve the movement of electrons to and from higher energy levels (higher values of n), rather than just between adjacent energy levels. This can result in the emission of light with longer wavelengths, making these transitions important for understanding the behavior of atoms at higher energies.

5. Can high n transitions be observed in other atoms besides helium?

Yes, high n transitions can be observed in other atoms besides helium. In fact, they are observed in all atoms, as any atom can become excited and emit light as its electrons move between energy levels. However, helium is particularly well-suited for studying these transitions due to its simple atomic structure and the fact that it is often used in spectroscopy experiments.

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