Potential associated with a conservative force field F

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Given the potential energy, the force is obtained as F = -∇U(r). A conservative force field F is associated with a potential f by F = ∇f.
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Does the first expression arise from this last one? If so, with -∇U(r), would one obtain the electric field E instead of the force F?
Given the potential energy, the force is obtained as F = -∇U(r). A conservative force field F is associated with a potential f by F = ∇f. Does the first expression arise from this last one? If so, with -∇U(r), would one obtain the electric field E instead of the force F?
 
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[tex]F=-\nabla U[/tex]
is enough. I feel no necessity to introduce f of f=-U + const.
 
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Force, field and potential are 3 different things. But can be correlated each other. Field like E is a space deformation (can be due to an extra charge for example) then some field like the electrostatic can be associated to potential V, E= -nabla V is correct. Then when comes another charge q in the field Coulomb law acts and F=qE. So you have U(r)= qV(r).
V is generally determined with a constant. For electrical field V=0 when r is infinite.
Mathematically this constant disappears in calculation (derivation or integration)
 
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A force is a vector field, ##\vec{F}(\vec{x})##. If it's conservative, there exists a scalar potential, ##U##, then by definition
$$\vec{F}(\vec{x})=-\vec{\nabla} U(\vec{x}).$$
If ##\vec{\nabla} \times \vec{F}=0## in an open singly-connected neighborhood of a point, then there exists a potential (at least) in this neighborhood (Poincare's Lemma).

The potential is determined only up to an arbitrary additive constant. Indeed it's convenient to define it to go to 0 at infinity (if possible for the given force).
 
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