Puzzled by an equation for relativistic time difference....

In summary, the problem involves a scenario where A', B', and C' are at rest in frame S', which moves at a speed v in the +x direction with respect to frame S. B' is located midway between A' and C' and at t' = 0, a light flash occurs at B' and expands outward as a spherical wave. The difference in time for the wave front to reach A' and B' can be calculated using the Lorentz transformation and the contracted distance between A' and B', which is equal to Lp. The correct answer is obtained by treating the distance B travels in the time between wave fronts as 0.
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Homework Statement


Suppose that A', B', and C' are at rest in frame S', which moves with respect to S at speed v in the +x direction. Let B' be located exactly midway between A' and C'. At t' = 0, a light flash occurs at B' and expands outward as a spherical wave. (A', B', and C' are all on the +x axis, with A' having the smallest x coordinate and C' having the largest x coordinate. Assume A'B' = B'C' = Lp.)

What is the difference between the time it takes the wave front to reach A' and the time it takes to reach B' (Use the following as necessary: v, c and Lp.

Homework Equations


$$ \begin{align}
L & = \frac{L_\text{p}}{\gamma} \\
\Delta t & = \gamma \big( t' + \frac{v}{c^2}x' \big) \\
\end{align} $$

The Attempt at a Solution


I think an observer in S' would see the events simultaneously. So the time interval should be 0. but this is not the correct answer. So I will present an alternate attempt at rationalizing the situation.

An observer in S sees the light travel a distance AB = BC which is contracted from the proper length A'B' = B'C' according to:

$$ \text{AB} = \text{BC} = \frac{\text{A'B'}}{\gamma} = \frac{L_\text{p}}{\gamma} $$
Since the wave is an electromagnetic one, the time take to traverse these distances will be

$$ \Delta t_\text{AB} = \Bigg( \frac{L_\text{p}}{\gamma} \Bigg) \Bigg(\frac{1}{c + v} \Bigg) = \frac{L_\text{p}}{\gamma (c + v)} \\
\Delta t_\text{BC} = \Bigg( \frac{L_\text{p}}{\gamma} \Bigg) \Bigg(\frac{1}{c - v} \Bigg) = \frac{L_\text{p}}{\gamma (c - v)} \\
\implies \Delta t = \Delta t_\text{AB} - \Delta t_\text{BC} = \frac{L_\text{p}}{\gamma}\Bigg(\frac{2v}{c^2 - v^2} \Bigg)
$$

Now, I think the time interval being asked for is one from S' (which would not be the proper time right?). So I'll apply the inverted Lorentz transformation:

$$ \begin{align}
\Delta t' & = \gamma \big(\Delta t + \frac{v}{c^2} \Delta x \big) \\
& = \gamma \Bigg(\Delta t + \frac{v}{c^2} v \Delta t \Bigg) \\
& = \gamma \Delta t \Bigg( 1 + \frac{v^2}{c^2} \Bigg) \\
& = \gamma \frac{L_\text{p}}{\gamma}\Bigg(\frac{2v}{c^2 - v^2} \Bigg) \Bigg( 1 + \frac{v^2}{c^2} \Bigg) \\
& = L_\text{p} \Bigg(\frac{2v}{c^2 - v^2} \Bigg) \Bigg( 1 + \frac{v^2}{c^2} \Bigg)
\end{align}$$

But this is incorrect. The correct answer is:

$$ \Delta t = L_\text{p} \Bigg(\frac{2v}{c^2 - v^2} \Bigg) $$

Which I would get numerically by treating ##\Delta x ##, above, as 0; but I feel like this doesn't make physical sense since the ##\Delta x ## is distance B travels in the time between wavefronts.
 
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Can you please provide the exact problem statement?
 
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There you go.
 

Related to Puzzled by an equation for relativistic time difference....

1. What is the equation for relativistic time difference?

The equation for relativistic time difference, also known as time dilation, is t = t₀/√(1-v²/c²), where t is the observed time, t₀ is the time in a stationary reference frame, v is the relative velocity between the two frames, and c is the speed of light.

2. How is this equation related to Einstein's theory of relativity?

This equation is a fundamental part of Einstein's theory of relativity, specifically the theory of special relativity. It describes how time is affected by the relative motion between two reference frames and is essential in understanding the concept of time dilation.

3. Can you provide an example of how this equation is used?

One example is the famous "twin paradox" where one twin travels at a high speed in a spaceship while the other twin stays on Earth. According to the equation for relativistic time difference, the twin on the spaceship will experience time passing slower than the twin on Earth, resulting in a difference in their ages when they reunite.

4. What are the implications of this equation?

The implications of this equation are significant, as it challenges our traditional understanding of time and space. It shows that time is not absolute, and can be affected by factors such as motion and gravity. This has led to advancements in fields such as astronomy and GPS technology.

5. Are there any limitations to this equation?

Yes, this equation is only applicable in situations where relative velocities are significant, usually close to the speed of light. It also does not take into account other factors such as gravitational time dilation, which is described by a different equation. Additionally, this equation is only a simplified version and does not account for more complex scenarios.

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