Quantization of Color: Electrons Jump Between Orbits

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of quantization of color and whether it is applicable to light emitted by isolated atoms or in a thermal distribution. It is mentioned that physicists tend to equate color with frequency, while biologists focus on the perception of color. It is concluded that color is not quantized, but rather the photons that make up light are quantized.
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thenewmans
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Is there any paper on the quantization of color? Maybe not since it’s obvious. I always thought that color was on a continuum. But now I realize that electrons jump between a limited set of orbits.
 
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thenewmans said:
Is there any paper on the quantization of color? Maybe not since it’s obvious. I always thought that color was on a continuum. But now I realize that electrons jump between a limited set of orbits.

This is wrong. "Color" implies a particular frequency. You can generate ANY range of EM frequency, in principle! Atomic transition isn't the only way to generate light. Do you think your incandescent light bulb generate light because of some atomic transition? Try passing that light through a diffraction grating and see how that differs from, say, a discharge tube.

Zz.
 
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ZapperZ said:
This is wrong. "Color" implies a particular frequency. You can generate ANY range of EM frequency, in principle! Atomic transition isn't the only way to generate light. Do you think your incandescent light bulb generate light because of some atomic transition? Try passing that light through a diffraction grating and see how that differs from, say, a discharge tube.

Zz.
Well, you're talking about blending colours though. Seems the poster would want to understand pure, single-frequency colours.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Well, you're talking about blending colours though. Seems the poster would want to understand pure, single-frequency colours.

Not from the way I read the post. Color isn't "quantized", the same way EM wavelength/frequency isn't "quantized". A continuous spectrum from an ordinary light bulb solves that.

Zz.
 
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Color is a very difficult subject anyway, because the term gets used in two related but very different ways. Physicists tend to equate color with frequency, because we always want to deal with observer-independent reality. Biologists, on the other hand, are more interested in the observer themself, so color for a biologist might deal more with rods and cones and the detection and perception of color. For example, if one uses the former definition, the color of the Sun is greenish-yellow, but if one uses the latter definition, the color of the Sun is definitively white. But I agree with ZapperZ that the OP seems to confuse quantization of light emitted by specific isolated atoms with general rules about color, whether they be the physical or the biological flavor.
 
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Well you're right. I'm the OP and I did not know that light was produced another way. So how does a light bulb produce light? I thought the EM waves in the electricity razed the orbit of the electrons and they emitted light as they returned to their correct state.
 
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You are correct, it is hot electrons that emit the light from an incandescent bulb. But, the electrons are not in isolated atoms, they are in an environment of other nearby atoms, and this alters the kinds of energies that the electrons are allowed to have. The details depend on the type of solid, but if you can assume that enough complicated things are happening to the electrons, you can assume that they find access to all possible energy states, and then the most probable distribution over those energies is called a "thermal distribution". Electrons in a thermal distribution emit what is called a "Planck distribution" of light, not light at specific energies like the way isolated atoms do. The quantization you encounter in the former case is not in the allowed energies, but rather in the photons-- a photon is a "quantum" of light energy, but it can have any energy over the Planck distribution.
 
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Hi guys..do you want to say color is not quantised
 

Related to Quantization of Color: Electrons Jump Between Orbits

1. What is quantization of color?

Quantization of color is the phenomenon where electrons in an atom can only exist in specific energy levels, or orbits, around the nucleus. These energy levels are quantized, meaning that they can only have certain discrete values and cannot exist in between these values.

2. How do electrons jump between orbits?

Electrons can jump between orbits when they absorb or emit energy. When an electron absorbs energy, it moves to a higher energy level, or orbit. When it emits energy, it moves to a lower energy level. This movement of electrons between orbits is what gives atoms their unique colors.

3. Why do electrons have specific energy levels?

Electrons have specific energy levels due to the laws of quantum mechanics. These laws dictate that particles, such as electrons, can only exist in certain discrete energy levels and cannot exist in between these levels.

4. What is the relationship between an electron's energy and its orbit?

The higher an electron's energy, the further away it is from the nucleus and the larger its orbit. The lower its energy, the closer it is to the nucleus and the smaller its orbit. This relationship is known as the energy-quantization relationship.

5. Can electrons exist in between energy levels?

No, according to the laws of quantum mechanics, electrons cannot exist in between energy levels. They can only exist in specific, quantized energy levels. This is why we see distinct colors when atoms absorb or emit energy, as the electrons can only jump between these specific energy levels.

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