Solve the simultaneous equations

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Homework Statement
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Relevant Equations
understanding of simultaneous equations
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In my approach i have,

##x+y = \dfrac{3}{4}xy##

and
##(x+y)^3=x^3+y^3+3xy(x+y)##

##(0.75xy)^3=9xy+ 3xy(0.75xy)##

Let ##m=xy##

##0.421875m^3-2.25m^2-9m=0##

##m_1=8, m_2=-2.6## and ##m_3=-1.37 ×10^{-10}##

using

##m_1=8 = xy##

we shall have,

##x^3+y^3=9xy##

##x^3+y^3=72##

since,

##x+y=6##

then it follows that

##x^3+(6-x)^3-72=0##

##x^3+216-36x-72x+12x^2+6x^2-x^3-72=0##

##⇒18x^2-108x+144=0##

##x=4, ⇒y=2##

##x=2, ⇒y=4##

... other values can be found in a similar manner...There may be a better approach than mine hence my post. Cheers.
 
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I think ##m_3 = 0##.

You can check for yourself that ##2,4## is a solution.

The third solution is the tricky one. I think you need to find and check that one.
 
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chwala said:
In my approach i have,

##x+y = \dfrac{3}{4}xy##

and
##(x+y)^3=x^3+y^3+3xy(x+y)##

##(0.75xy)^3=9xy+ 3xy(0.75xy)##
If you write that using rational fractions, rather than decimal fractions, you have:

##\displaystyle \left( \frac 3 4 \right)^3 (xy)^3 = 9xy + 3xy \left( \frac 3 4 \right) xy ##

Rearranging and simplifying gives:

##\displaystyle \left( \frac {27} {64} \right) (xy)^3 - \left( \frac 9 4 \right) (xy)^2 - 9(xy) =0##

Multiplying through by ##\displaystyle \frac {64} {9} ## gives:

##\displaystyle 3 (xy)^3 - 16 (xy)^2 - 64(xy) =0##

Factoring the left hand side gives:

##\displaystyle (xy-8)(3 xy + 8) (xy)=0##
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement: See attached
Relevant Equations: understanding of simultaneous equations

##0.421875m^3-2.25m^2-9m=0##

##m_1=8, m_2=-2.6## and ##m_3=-1.37 ×10^{-10}##
That you wrote that second line is a sign that you are depending on your calculator too much.

And, as I mentioned in another thread, it would be a good idea to not use decimals.

-Dan
 
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topsquark said:
That you wrote that second line is a sign that you are depending on your calculator too much.

And, as I mentioned in another thread, it would be a good idea to not use decimals.

-Dan
@topsquark thanks let me check on how to minimise calculator in my working. Your other points are well noted..i do skip some steps as I assume that my audience (you guys) are quite highly intelligent people to see in between the lines...my bad. I'll work on showing the required steps man!

Cheers mate.
 
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chwala said:
let me check on how to minimise calculator in my working.
Not much to check. When you're working on a problem in algebra, don't use a calculator, or at least not until the final step.

chwala said:
i do skip some steps as I assume that my audience (you guys) are quite highly intelligent people to see in between the lines
Sure, we can probably fill in missing details, but we're working for free, and might not want to take the time to do so.
 
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topsquark said:
That you wrote that second line is a sign that you are depending on your calculator too much.

And, as I mentioned in another thread, it would be a good idea to not use decimals.

-Dan
Dan,
Ok we shall have (without calc),

##(0.75xy)^3=9xy+ 3xy(0.75xy)##

letting ##xy=m##

##\dfrac{27}{64} m^3 = 9m + \dfrac{9}{4} m^2##

##27m^3=576m+144m^2##

##27m^3-576m-144m^2=0##

##m(27m^2-144m-576)=0##

##m_1=0##

##27m^2-144m-576=0##

##m= \dfrac{144±\sqrt{20736+62208}}{54}##


##m= \dfrac{144±\sqrt{82944}}{54}##

##m= \dfrac{144±288}{54}##

##m_2=8## and ##m_3=-2.67## to two decimal places.

From here the steps to solution will follow. Cheers man.
 
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chwala said:
Dan,
Ok we shall have (without calc),

##(0.75xy)^3=9xy+ 3xy(0.75xy)##

letting ##xy=m##

##\dfrac{27}{64} m^3 = 9m + \dfrac{9}{4} m^2##

##27m^3=576m+144m^2##

##27m^3-576m-144m^2=0##

##m(27m^2-144m-576)=0##

##m_1=0##

##27m^2-144m-576=0##

##m= \dfrac{144±\sqrt{20736+62208}}{54}##


##m= \dfrac{144±\sqrt{82944}}{54}##

##m= \dfrac{144±288}{54}##

##m_2=8## and ##m_3=-2.67## to two decimal places.

From here the steps to solution will follow. Cheers man.
Don't know if this is the input you're looking for, but you could have divided your equation through by 9, to end with
##3m^2-16m-64##.
 
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1. How do you solve simultaneous equations?

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