Understanding Point Mass: An Example

In summary: If the mass distribution is not spherically symmetrical, then the gravitational field outside the surface of the object is not the same as if the object were a point mass. In this case, you'll have to calculate the gravitational field using some other method. Thank you.In summary, a point mass is an object that has its mass concentrated at a single point. If the object is a perfect sphere, or very, very close to a perfect sphere, then you can treat it as a point-mass in most situations. If the object has some size and is irregular in shape, you have to do an integral over the volume of the object to calculate the quantity of interest. Usually, there are rules of thumb such as: if the ratio
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What does it mean to treat something as a point mass. Give an example as well. Thank you.
 
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It just means you treat an object as if all of its mass is exactly at a single point. For example, I could model the Earth as being a single point instead of a sphere for the purposes of doing gravitational calculations. We do this because it usually simplifies our calculations a great deal. Note that you can't always do this. If you want to find the gravitational force from the Earth on an asteroid that's 0.5 AU from the Earth, you're probably okay with treating both the Earth and the asteroid as point-masses. If you want to very accurately calculate the variation in the Earth's gravity at different points on its surface, you absolutely cannot treat the Earth as a point mass.
 
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It just means you treat an object as if all of its mass is exactly at a single point. For example, I could model the Earth as being a single point instead of a sphere for the purposes of doing gravitational calculations. We do this because it usually simplifies our calculations a great deal. Note that you can't always do this. If you want to find the gravitational force from the Earth on an asteroid that's 0.5 AU from the Earth, you're probably okay with treating both the Earth and the asteroid as point-masses. If you want to very accurately calculate the variation in the Earth's gravity at different points on its surface, you absolutely cannot treat the Earth as a point mass.
So to your last statement, if you don't treat it as a point mass how will you calculate it?
 
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So to your last statement, if you don't treat it as a point mass how will you calculate it?

No idea.
 
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Thank. Last question. What if the mass is evenly distributed.
Would you consider it a point mass?
 
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Dynamics101 said:
Thank. Last question. What if the mass is evenly distributed.

If the object is a perfect sphere, or very, very close to a perfect sphere, then you can treat it as a point-mass in most situations.
 
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Thank man!
 
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So to your last statement, if you don't treat it as a point mass how will you calculate it?

If the object has some size and is irregular in shape, you have to do an integral over the volume of the object to calculate the quantity of interest. Usually, there are rules of thumb such as: if the ratio of the largest dimension of the object to the distances of interest is below X, then the object can be considered a point mass with an error below Y, where X and Y depend on the specific quantity being calculated.
 
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Thank. Last question. What if the mass is evenly distributed.
Would you consider it a point mass?
If the mass distribution is spherically symmetrical, then the gravitational field everywhere outside the surface of the object is exactly the same as if the object were a point mass with the mass concentrated at the center. Thus you can consider it a point mass as long as you stay above the surface; this will be the case for planetary motion, the trajectories of dropped objects, ballistics, spacecraft in orbit or free flight, just about all the practically important problems you'll encounter.
 

Related to Understanding Point Mass: An Example

1. What is a point mass?

A point mass is a hypothetical object with a mass that is concentrated at a single point in space. It is often used in physics and mechanics to simplify calculations and study the behavior of objects without considering their size or shape.

2. How is a point mass different from a regular mass?

A point mass is different from a regular mass in that it does not have a physical size or shape. It is considered to be infinitely small and its mass is concentrated at a single point in space. A regular mass, on the other hand, has a physical size and shape and its mass is distributed throughout the object.

3. What are some examples of point masses?

Some common examples of point masses include planets, stars, and other celestial bodies. In these cases, the mass of the object is concentrated at its center and its size and shape can be ignored for certain calculations. A mathematical point, which has no physical existence, can also be considered a point mass.

4. How is point mass used in physics?

Point mass is used in physics to simplify calculations and study the behavior of objects in motion. By ignoring the size and shape of an object and considering it as a point mass, physicists can use simplified equations to analyze the motion of the object and make predictions about its behavior.

5. Can point mass be applied to real-world objects?

While point mass is a theoretical concept, it can be applied to real-world objects in certain situations. The closer an object's mass is concentrated at a single point, the more accurately it can be modeled as a point mass. For example, a baseball can be considered a point mass when thrown through the air, but not when it is at rest on the ground.

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