What is the evidence against hidden variable theories?

In summary: The Kochen-Specker Theorem is an example.Thank you very much.. :)Sure. On the other hand, the *correct* argument (which BTW is also Bell's argument) is that Bell's Theorem has nothing to do with refuting the possibility of hidden variables. Perhaps Dr C is correct that, according to the masses, Bell's theorem shows that hidden variable theories aren't possible. But, if that's so, the masses are simply wrong. Read Bell's (nice accessible) papers. Read Maudlin's excellent book "Quantum Nonlocal and Relativity." Don't just follow the masses. In summary, the main arguments against hidden
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"Hidden variables theories", what is the main arguments that these probably isn't theories of our universe?
What kind of observations in a "hidden variable theory" would be diffrent from what we observe? And why are they different?

Can someone please give some basic answears and maybe point me in the right direction for further reading.

Sorry if this has already been answeard but i have searched and not found any good topics or information anywhere.

Thanks
/Gravito
 
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Gravito said:
"Hidden variables theories", what is the main arguments that these probably isn't theories of our universe?
What kind of observations in a "hidden variable theory" would be diffrent from what we observe? And why are they different?

Can someone please give some basic answears and maybe point me in the right direction for further reading.

Sorry if this has already been answeard but i have searched and not found any good topics or information anywhere.

Thanks
/Gravito

The usual argument goes back to Bell's Theorem, which essentially states as follows:

"No physical theory of local Hidden Variables can ever reproduce all of the predictions of Quantum Mechanics."

You can helpful links to learn more about this from my web page on the subject: Bell's Theorem: An Overview with Lotsa Links. There are also many "no-go" theorems which purport to also rule out hidden variables. The Kochen-Specker Theorem is an example.
 
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Thank you very much.. :)

Just what i needed
 
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DrChinese said:
The usual argument goes back to Bell's Theorem, which essentially states as follows:

"No physical theory of local Hidden Variables can ever reproduce all of the predictions of Quantum Mechanics."

Sure. On the other hand, the *correct* argument (which BTW is also Bell's argument) is that Bell's Theorem has nothing to do with refuting the possibility of hidden variables. Perhaps Dr C is correct that, according to the masses, Bell's theorem shows that hidden variable theories aren't possible. But, if that's so, the masses are simply wrong. Read Bell's (nice accessible) papers. Read Maudlin's excellent book "Quantum Nonlocal and Relativity." Don't just follow the masses.
 

Related to What is the evidence against hidden variable theories?

1. What are hidden variable theories?

Hidden variable theories are theories in physics that propose the existence of additional, unobservable variables that determine the behavior of particles and systems. These variables are thought to supplement the laws of quantum mechanics and provide a more complete explanation of physical phenomena.

2. How do hidden variable theories differ from standard quantum mechanics?

In standard quantum mechanics, the behavior of particles and systems is described by probabilities, rather than deterministic variables. Hidden variable theories aim to provide a deterministic explanation for this behavior by introducing additional variables that influence the outcomes of quantum experiments.

3. What is the evidence for hidden variable theories?

Currently, there is no direct evidence for hidden variable theories. Many of these theories have been proposed as alternatives to standard quantum mechanics, but they have not been confirmed by experimental data. Some hidden variable theories have been ruled out by experiments, while others remain open for further investigation.

4. What are some criticisms of hidden variable theories?

One major criticism of hidden variable theories is that they often violate the principle of locality, which states that objects can only be influenced by their immediate surroundings. Another criticism is that these theories often require the existence of hidden dimensions or variables that are not supported by current scientific evidence.

5. Can hidden variable theories be tested experimentally?

Yes, some hidden variable theories make specific predictions that can be tested through experiments. However, these tests are often challenging and require precise control over experimental conditions. So far, no hidden variable theory has been confirmed by experimental data, but research in this area is ongoing.

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