Where did Epsilon go in the Fine Structure Constant Equation?

In summary, the fine structure constant is a dimensionless constant that describes the strength of the electromagnetic interaction between particles. In SI units, the fine structure constant involves the permittivity of free space, while in CGS units it does not. The difference in units accounts for the apparent disappearance of epsilon in certain equations.
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Homework Statement



e is charge
epsilon is permittivity

Homework Equations



[tex]e^2 = 4\pi \epsilon GM^2[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



This is just a question really because I am a bit confused about something. Was reading up on the fine structure constant and apparently the fine structure constant is

[tex]\alpha = \frac{e^2}{GM^2}[/tex]

I know it is supposed to be dimensionless, but where did epsilon go? Shouldn't it be

[tex]\frac{e^2}{\epsilon GM^2}[/tex]

Or has epsilon been set to 1?
 
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You're completely confused. The fine structure constant does not involve G. Try Google or Wikipedia.
 
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actually it does.

I have been doing reading on it, and apparently

[tex]\frac{\hbar c}{GM^2}[/tex] is called the gravitational fine structure.

[tex]\frac{e^2}{\hbar c}[/tex] is the electromagnetic fine structure

Hence this link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_coupling_constant
 
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from the link it says

''αG is to gravitation what the fine-structure constant is to electromagnetism and quantum electrodynamics. The physics literature seldom mentions αG. This may be due to the arbitrariness of the choice among particles to use (whereas α is a function of the elementary charge e, about which there is no debate), and the relatively low precision with which αG can be measured. Unless stated otherwise, αG is here defined in terms of a pair of electrons.''
 
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From the same link, Barrow and Tipler defined

[tex]e^2 / GM^2[/tex] as the a ratio of the fine structure.
 
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So, can anyone please answer my question why epsilon doesn't appear in ratio's?

after all, the charge relationship is

[tex]e^2 = 4 \pi \epsilon GM^2[/tex]

where apparently [tex]GM^2 = \hbar c[/tex] since the ratio [tex]\frac{\hbar c}{GM^2}[/tex] gives the fine structure constant, but so does

[tex]\frac{e^2}{GM^2}[/tex]

but the epsilon seems to disappear... why?
 
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Perhaps you're confusing the different units for electric charge? When using SI units, the charge q on an electron is measured in coulombs, and the force between two electrons is given by:
[tex]F = \frac{q^2}{4\pi \epsilon_0 r^2}[/tex]
But when using CGS units, which is what you are using when you write the fine structure constant:
[tex]\alpha = \frac{e^2}{\hbar c}[/tex]
, the charge e on an electron is measured in statcoulombs, and the force between two electrons is given by:
[tex]F = \frac{e^2}{r^2}[/tex]
The 4 pi and the epsilon0 have basically been absorbed into redefining the unit of charge. Is this your question?
 
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phyzguy said:
Perhaps you're confusing the different units for electric charge? When using SI units, the charge q on an electron is measured in coulombs, and the force between two electrons is given by:
[tex]F = \frac{q^2}{4\pi \epsilon_0 r^2}[/tex]
But when using CGS units, which is what you are using when you write the fine structure constant:
[tex]\alpha = \frac{e^2}{\hbar c}[/tex]
, the charge e on an electron is measured in statcoulombs, and the force between two electrons is given by:
[tex]F = \frac{e^2}{r^2}[/tex]
The 4 pi and the epsilon0 have basically been absorbed into redefining the unit of charge. Is this your question?

Maybe it is just the units then used to measure it.
 

Related to Where did Epsilon go in the Fine Structure Constant Equation?

What is the fine structure constant?

The fine structure constant, denoted as α, is a dimensionless quantity that characterizes the strength of the electromagnetic force. It is a fundamental constant in physics that determines the strength of interactions between charged particles.

How is the fine structure constant calculated?

The fine structure constant is calculated by dividing the square of the elementary charge (e) by Planck's constant (h) multiplied by the speed of light in a vacuum (c). This can be expressed as α = e^2 / ℏc, where ℏ is the reduced Planck's constant.

What is the significance of the fine structure constant?

The fine structure constant is significant because it governs the strength of electromagnetic interactions, which are responsible for many phenomena in our everyday lives such as light, electricity, and chemical reactions. It also plays a crucial role in understanding the behavior of atoms and molecules.

Has the value of the fine structure constant changed over time?

According to current scientific understanding, the value of the fine structure constant is constant and does not change over time or location in the universe. However, there have been some controversial studies claiming to have observed a slight variation in its value, but these results have not been widely accepted by the scientific community.

How does the fine structure constant relate to other fundamental constants?

The fine structure constant is closely related to other fundamental constants such as the speed of light, Planck's constant, and the elementary charge. In fact, it can be derived from a combination of these constants, making it an important link in our understanding of the laws of physics.

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