Z = xy, dz/dx = delta z/ delta x, no idea why

In summary, the conversation discusses a function that looks similar to z = xy and the discovery of a property where delta_z / delta_x = dz/dx. The function is found to be linear and is defined as a function of more than one variable with partial derivatives. The criterion for linearity is discussed and examples are given to demonstrate the linear behavior.
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Homework Statement


Ok this isn't really homework just something I came across and am confused by. I came across a function that looks similar to z = xy and I found that delta_z / delta_x = dz/dx which is really weird to me. This was really strange to me so I checked to see if z = x²y would also be the same and it wasn't which I expected. I don't know how to explain why z = xy has this sort of property where delta_z / delta_x = dz/dx. Sorry if this is a sort of weird question.

Homework Equations


For example let's say z = xy, x = 5, y = 2, z = 10. We increase x to 6 then z = 12.
delta_z / delta_x = dz/dx = y => delta_z = y*delta_x = 2*1 = 2. No idea why this is true though it should be like a linear approximation.

The Attempt at a Solution


So I was thinking it's true in the same way that for y=mx+b, delta_y/delta_x = dy/dx, now I don't know what to call these type of functions.
 
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Hello jrm, :welcome:

With this function, you can see that if you keep y constant, then z = constant * x, the equation of a straight line.
 
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First, what do you mean by "similar to z= xy"? Was the function z= xy or not? Second, since you are talking about "delta z/delta x" and "dz/dt", what happens to y? If you are treating y as a constant, then z is a linear function of x so of course you get that property. And you call those functions "linear" functions!
 
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Ah so this function is linear? I looked online and it showed linear multivariable functions have the form f(x1,x2,x3,...) = a1x1 + a2x2 + a3x3 + ... So I didn't want to call this type of function linear since it does not have this form. By similar I mean it looks like z = (1+y)(A+Bx). Sorry I made a mistake in my first post. It should have been y = 10, and increases to y = 12, not z. I guess a follow up question would be anything of the form f(x1,x2,x3,...) = x1*x2*x3... would have this behavior if you kept all other variables constant when taking a derivative with respect to one variable and it would be called linear?

Thanks for the responses!
 
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You found the correct criterion for linearity. That doesn't exclude the possibility that the intersection of the 3D graph of your function with any plane y = constant (or, alternativly, x = constant) is a straight line.
Note that for functions of more than one variable we use partial derivatives: Function ##\ z = f(x,y)\ ## has partial derivatives ##\ \partial z\over \partial x\ ## and ##\ \partial z\over \partial y\ ##.

##\ \partial z\over \partial x\ ## is a function of x and y obtained by taking the the usual derivative wrt x while keeping y constant. In your ##z = xy## example ##\ {\partial z\over \partial x} = y\ ##.

And in your z = (1+y)(A+Bx) ##\ {\partial z\over \partial x} = B(1+y)\ ##, which still is a straight line -- hence the ##\ {\Delta z\over \Delta x} = {\partial z\over \partial x}\ ##.

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Picture shows intersections with y = -2 is a straight line. So is intersection with x = 2 -- and any plane with x = constant or y = constant.

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Ah, that clears things up for me. Thanks!
 

Related to Z = xy, dz/dx = delta z/ delta x, no idea why

1. What is the significance of the equation "Z = xy"?

This equation represents a mathematical relationship between two variables, x and y. It states that the value of z is equal to the product of x and y. This equation can be used to model various real-world situations and make predictions.

2. What does "dz/dx" mean in the context of this equation?

"dz/dx" is known as the partial derivative of z with respect to x. It represents the rate of change of z with respect to x, while holding all other variables constant.

3. How is "delta z/ delta x" related to "dz/dx" in this equation?

"delta z/ delta x" is another way of representing the partial derivative of z with respect to x. It is often used in calculus to represent a small change in z over a small change in x, which is essentially the definition of a derivative.

4. Can you explain why the equation "dz/dx = delta z/ delta x" is important?

This equation is important because it allows us to calculate the rate of change of z with respect to x, which is crucial in understanding the behavior of a system or phenomenon. It is also a fundamental concept in calculus and is used in many scientific fields.

5. Why is the phrase "no idea why" included in the equation "Z = xy, dz/dx = delta z/ delta x, no idea why"?

This phrase is often used as a placeholder in mathematical equations when the exact reasoning or justification is not known. It does not affect the validity or significance of the equation itself.

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