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While studying for the Fundamentals of Engineering exam, I came across the following problem that has me puzzled:
The problem then goes on to give four possible answers (37.06 degrees C, 38.06 degrees C, 39.06 degrees C, and d. 40.06 degrees C) though I'm convinced that none of them can be correct.
Okay, I'll babble for a bit. Enough that you can see that I've got a few ideas, but also enough that you can see that I'm confused:
The second to last sentence in the problem is more confusing than it's worth, I think. From it I gather that the coefficient of thermal expansion of the chain is "11.66 x 10 ^ -6" with units of 1/degrees C. Also it seems as though they are trying to imply that at 20 degrees C, the change in temperature will be zero - my confusion level crosses into murk at about this point.
Back to the problem. Here are some things that I know:
Thermal Expansion is:
As the temperature increases, the chain will expand. The measured distance will get smaller as this happens. For example, if it was so hot that the chain expanded to 200% between measurements (unrealistic of course, but easy to think about) then the same distance would only measure 50% of its previous value.
From that little thought experiment it seems clear enough that according to the problem, the "temperature yesterday" should be less than "today's temperature". So none of the four given answers can be correct.
However I'm a bit stubborn and after I get started on a problem I like to grok it as best I can. So, what *is* the temperature today anyway?
It seems a bit more confusing to me because I'm only given 2 measurements - neither of which are "real" - they're only what the chain measured while it was expanded to some degree or another.
I've reasoned that:
Now I've got two equations to work with, but it all falls apart here - I'm just not having the insight to figure out what to think next.
I hope someone is sparked with a bit of curiosity and wants to help me to an understanding. This isn't a homework problem (I graduated with a physics degree in '92 - to say I'm rusty would be an understatement though as I've been programming computers for that last 15 years rather than doing physics)
please help. thanks in advance.
-- Jonathan
Yesterday a survey crew measured the distance between two points as 805.420m. They used a steel chain, but no correction was made for the temperature. Today, they measured the distance as 805.316m, also without correction. If a measured length is Lm and the temperature is Tc in degrees C, then the length is corrected for temperature by adding "(11.66)(10^-6)(Tc-20)Lm" to it. If today's temperature is 28C, what was the temperature yesterday?
The problem then goes on to give four possible answers (37.06 degrees C, 38.06 degrees C, 39.06 degrees C, and d. 40.06 degrees C) though I'm convinced that none of them can be correct.
Okay, I'll babble for a bit. Enough that you can see that I've got a few ideas, but also enough that you can see that I'm confused:
The second to last sentence in the problem is more confusing than it's worth, I think. From it I gather that the coefficient of thermal expansion of the chain is "11.66 x 10 ^ -6" with units of 1/degrees C. Also it seems as though they are trying to imply that at 20 degrees C, the change in temperature will be zero - my confusion level crosses into murk at about this point.
Back to the problem. Here are some things that I know:
Thermal Expansion is:
Code:
DL/L = a DT
where:
DL delta L - the change in length of the chain due to thermal
expansion.
L - the "unchanged" length of the chain. the length of
the chain at DT = 0, I suppose.
a alpha - the coefficient of thermal expansion.
DT delta T - the change in temperature that caused the chain to
expand from L to L + DL.
As the temperature increases, the chain will expand. The measured distance will get smaller as this happens. For example, if it was so hot that the chain expanded to 200% between measurements (unrealistic of course, but easy to think about) then the same distance would only measure 50% of its previous value.
From that little thought experiment it seems clear enough that according to the problem, the "temperature yesterday" should be less than "today's temperature". So none of the four given answers can be correct.
However I'm a bit stubborn and after I get started on a problem I like to grok it as best I can. So, what *is* the temperature today anyway?
It seems a bit more confusing to me because I'm only given 2 measurements - neither of which are "real" - they're only what the chain measured while it was expanded to some degree or another.
I've reasoned that:
Code:
Lm = L / ( L + DL )
where:
Lm length measured - the measured length.
L - the length of the chain at DT = 0.
- another way of saying "what the chain would measure
if DT = 0"
DL delta L - the change in length of the chain due to thermal
expansion.
Now I've got two equations to work with, but it all falls apart here - I'm just not having the insight to figure out what to think next.
I hope someone is sparked with a bit of curiosity and wants to help me to an understanding. This isn't a homework problem (I graduated with a physics degree in '92 - to say I'm rusty would be an understatement though as I've been programming computers for that last 15 years rather than doing physics)
please help. thanks in advance.
-- Jonathan