Integrating Trigonometric Substitution and Simplifying Tricky Integrals

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In summary, the conversation discusses solving the integral \int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{y^2}{1+y^4} dy using different methods, such as trigonometric substitution and integration by parts. However, dividing the numerator and denominator by y^2 allows for a simpler solution using a fraction expansion and a clever manipulation. The final solution involves writing the integral as a sum of two simpler integrals and can be easily solved.
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I'm having difficulty with this, trigonometic substitution won't work, neither would integration by parts...
[tex]\int_{0}^{\infty} \frac{y^2}{1+y^4} dy[/tex]

ETA:
doing trigonometric substitution with [tex] y^2 = tan\theta[/tex], I would get
[tex]\frac{1}{2} \int_{- \frac{\pi}{2}}^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \sqrt{tan \theta} d\theta [/tex]
 
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Don't make the trig sub.

Instead, divide numerator and denominator by [itex]y^2[/itex].
You'll have
[tex] \int \frac{dy}{y^2 + 1/y^2} [/tex]

There's a tricky step (more like manipulation) to solve this. Here's a hint:
[tex] y^2 + 1/y^2 = (y+1/y)^2 - 2 [/tex]
[tex] y^2 + 1/y^2 = (y-1/y)^2 + 2 [/tex]

Can you play around for a while and take it from here?
 
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hey, thanks for the help siddharth...yeah, i'll try to play around this form and fina a solution.

thanks again
 
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Contour integration is the solution.

Daniel.
 
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Also, u might try for a simple fraction expansion.

[tex] y^{4}+1 =\left(y^{2}+\sqrt{2}y+1\right)\left(y^{2}-\sqrt{2}y+1\right) [/tex]

The result is [itex]\frac{1}{4}\pi \sqrt{2} [/itex]

Daniel.
 
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dextercioby said:
Contour integration is the solution.

Daniel.

You don't need contour integration to solve this.

The trick in integrating
[tex] \int \frac{dy}{y^2 + 1/y^2} [/tex]

is to write it as

[tex](1/2) \int \left( \frac{1-1/y^2}{(y+1/y)^2 - 2} + \frac{1+1/y^2}{(y-1/y)^2 + 2} \right) dy [/tex]

This is very easy to integrate.
 
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This is very nice :)

siddharth said:
You don't need contour integration to solve this.

The trick in integrating
[tex] \int \frac{dy}{y^2 + 1/y^2} [/tex]

is to write it as

[tex](1/2) \int \left( \frac{1-1/y^2}{(y+1/y)^2 - 2} + \frac{1+1/y^2}{(y-1/y)^2 + 2} \right) dy [/tex]

This is very easy to integrate.
 

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