Can BECs and Cryonics Coexist? Exploring the Possibilities

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In summary, freezing a human being and turning them into a BEC does not necessarily mean you can later reanimate them.
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I have a question regarding Bose-Einstein condensates. Let's say, hypothetically speaking, that we were able to overcome all the technical issues involved in cryogenic freezing and were able to freeze and reanimate people with ease. If we cryogenically froze a human being, then converted the frozen being to a BEC, would we be able to later undo the conversion to a BEC and then reanimate the cryogenically frozen human?

In other words, is the following chain of events possible?

Living human -> Cryogenically frozen human -> Bose-Einstein condensate -> Cryogenically frozen human -> Living human

Is that possible, or does becoming a BEC do something irreversible to the atoms that make up the cryogenically frozen human?
 
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Abstracting of human being a subject to the process, how do you want to make a condensate of mixture of different molecules?
You may create BEC only of identical bosons.
 
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xts said:
Abstracting of human being a subject to the process, how do you want to make a condensate of mixture of different molecules?
You may create BEC only of identical bosons.

I thought that a BEC is simply the result of cooling something down to just a tiny fraction of a degree above 0K.
 
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hammertime said:
I thought that a BEC is simply the result of cooling something down to just a tiny fraction of a degree above 0K.

No certainly not ... Bose-Einstein condensation is a phenomenon unique to systems of weakly-interacting, spin-zero bosons. The root concept is Bose-Einstein statistics, which say that an arbitrary number of identical bosons can occupy the same quantum state. This is distinct from the case of identical fermions, which obey Fermi-Dirac statistics, and CANNOT occupy the same quantum state according to the Pauli Exclusion Principle.
 
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SpectraCat said:
No certainly not ... Bose-Einstein condensation is a phenomenon unique to systems of weakly-interacting, spin-zero bosons. The root concept is Bose-Einstein statistics, which say that an arbitrary number of identical bosons can occupy the same quantum state. This is distinct from the case of identical fermions, which obey Fermi-Dirac statistics, and CANNOT occupy the same quantum state according to the Pauli Exclusion Principle.

So would this prevent quantum teleportation of a human being? I thought that, in order to quantum teleport a macroscopic object, you'd have to cool it down to almost absolute zero. So what would happen to a cryogenically frozen human body if we got it down to, say, 1 millikelvin? Actually, would that temperature be too high to maintain entanglement?
 
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So would this prevent quantum teleportation of a human being? I thought that, in order to quantum teleport a macroscopic object, you'd have to cool it down to almost absolute zero. So what would happen to a cryogenically frozen human body if we got it down to, say, 1 millikelvin? Actually, would that temperature be too high to maintain entanglement?

You should never jump to something else before understanding the basics. Here, you clearly have not understood what a BEC is, but you're already speculating on top of that about quantum teleportation.

Figure out and straighten out your faulty understanding of BEC, and why not everything cooled down to such low temperatures will exhibit such condensation. Don't be so eager to apply something you don't understand yet to do something else.

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=514189

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FAQ: Can BECs and Cryonics Coexist? Exploring the Possibilities

What is a Bose-Einstein condensate (BEC)?

A Bose-Einstein condensate is a state of matter that can only be achieved at extremely low temperatures, close to absolute zero. In this state, a group of atoms behave as a single "super atom", exhibiting wave-like properties and behaving collectively rather than individually.

What is cryonics?

Cryonics is the practice of preserving a person's body (or sometimes just their brain) at very low temperatures after death, with the hope of reviving them in the future with advanced medical technology.

Can BECs and cryonics coexist?

It is currently unknown whether BECs and cryonics can coexist, as there has been very little research on this topic. Some scientists believe that it may be possible for cryopreserved bodies to be revived and then placed into a BEC state, but this is purely speculative at this point.

What are the potential benefits of combining BECs and cryonics?

If it were possible to combine BECs and cryonics, there could be numerous potential benefits. For example, the extremely low temperatures required for BECs could help to preserve the body or brain even better than current cryopreservation methods. Additionally, the unique properties of BECs could potentially aid in the revival process.

What are the potential challenges of combining BECs and cryonics?

Combining BECs and cryonics would likely present many challenges. One major challenge would be the technology required to achieve and maintain the extremely low temperatures necessary for both BECs and cryopreservation. Additionally, the effects of potential interactions between BECs and cryoprotectants (chemicals used in cryopreservation) are not fully understood and could pose a challenge.

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