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What do you guys think about this new service ? Will you consider using it ?
Google Health Tourrewebster said:have you got a link?
With Google Health, you can store and manage all your health information in one place. And it's completely free. All you need to get started is a Google username and password.
So is it safe? Yes! We believe that your health information belongs to you, and you should decide how much you share and whom you share it with. We will never sell your data. We store your information securely and privately. Check out our privacy policy to learn more.
Poop-Loops said:Frickin' FINALLY! I get tired of going from doc to doc and having to fill out the same god damned forms every time. Just give me something to print out and I'll be happy.
Evo said:Anyone that uses an online service to post personal medical information has got to be crazy.
jim mcnamara said:Using Google Health indicates Mental Health problems. SO that act alone will disqualify you from getinng insurance![]()
jim mcnamara said:Using Google Health indicates Mental Health problems. SO that act alone will disqualify you from getinng insurance![]()
rewebster said:yeah!--you go see a doctor and tell him that you didn't fill out HIS form; and then tell him to go online to get the one the YOU'VE made out already
Poop-Loops said:Have you ever filled out any of these forms? They are all the same. Address, phone, contacts, insurance info, pre-existing conditions, etc., etc.
Handing someone a chart with all of it already filled out -- typed -- will be a lot better.
Especially when it becomes more popular and doctors get used to seeing the format from GH.
Poop-Loops said:Have you ever filled out any of these forms? They are all the same. Address, phone, contacts, insurance info, pre-existing conditions, etc., etc.
Handing someone a chart with all of it already filled out -- typed -- will be a lot better.
Especially when it becomes more popular and doctors get used to seeing the format from GH.
You've got to be joking. You're going to risk someone accessing all of your medical information so you don't have to spend 5 minutes filling out a form? How often do you go to a new doctor and have to do this? I just did it for the first time in 15 years.Poop-Loops said:Have you ever filled out any of these forms? They are all the same. Address, phone, contacts, insurance info, pre-existing conditions, etc., etc.
Handing someone a chart with all of it already filled out -- typed -- will be a lot better.
Especially when it becomes more popular and doctors get used to seeing the format from GH.
Evo said:You've got to be joking. You're going to risk someone accessing all of your medical information so you don't have to spend 5 minutes filling out a form? How often do you go to a new doctor and have to do this? I just did it for the first time in 15 years.
If you want a pre-filled form, make one and take it to the doctor. I doubt very many doctors are going to go for this what with HIPPA and lawsuits. Heck, my doctor won't even allow e-mailing of BLANK forms they are so strict.
When I recently had to have the results of a minor test which was negative (nothing wrong) sent to a different doctor. They burned the test onto a CD, I had to go there with ID and sign it out and hand deliver it to the other doctor. They refused to transfer it by any means for security reasons. If my files get into the wrong hands, it's my fault.
Poop-Loops said:When I was trying to treat my depression I went to see a therapist + several different doctors for the pills. It added up.
I also have some weak sauce teeth so I've been to several docs for things like crowns, root canals, and of course pulling wisdom teeth.
My mom had an injury at work, so now whenever I go to with her to a doc, it's usually a new one that I have to fill out the same damn forms over and over. "Where does it hurt? How did the accident happen? Date of accident?"
Moreover, if I were to ever get in something serious and need to go to the ER, I don't have time to fill out whether or not I am allergic to X or whatever. If there was a way to just pull it up off the web, I'd be glad.
I don't see what the big deal is with medical information. Oh noes! Someone might find out I had testicular torsion when I was 7! What can they possibly do with that except solicit me for drugs?
Yes, the lawsuits would be the main reason docs wouldn't sign on to this, not because of security risks. I mean honestly, people see your medical record whenever you go to a doc. Nurses do. They could easily just spread it word of mouth, but nobody cares enough to do so.
I think that as this becomes more popular more docs will start using it, though.
lisab said:But PL, that's all fine and well...you're a young man. But what happens when you're older - imagine you're married and have just had your first kid - and you get turned down for life insurance because you've had depression?
And if your health history is easily available to employers (illegally, perhaps...? Who's to know?), can they refuse to hire you because of your health history? Of course they would never say why you don't get the job. You would just have a hard time getting hired, and never know why.
The real problem here is insurance companies. What could you do if there was something in those records (e.g., depression) that prevents you from obtaining insurance or even employment?
Seriously, have you missed all of the stealing and hacking of records of huge financial institutions this past year? Can you imagine how many hackers are going to try to access this health site? Privacy policy "we won't sell your information" my a$$, that is not my concern, my concern is those files getting into someone's hands illegally, either by hackers, or a google employee being bought. Don't think it happens? Think again.Poop-Loops said:Why would they see it?
Poop-Loops said:I'm moving out of the USA as soon as I can, hopefully for graduate school even. I am done with the BS here such as the incredible animosity towards science. Let the people here rot for all I care. When things change I can come back.
Why would it be easily available to employers? Or anybody that I don't want having it? Easy system for preventing theft:
Doctor sends request to your Google Health account. You approve the request. Done. That means you get to choose who sees your stuff. A hassle? Not really, considering you have the internet on your frickin' phone these days. Give it a few more years and you'll have the internet on your socks.
This leaves the possibility of someone getting my password. But it doesn't matter, because someone could also get my SSN, my PIN, whatever. I've never had a problem with those, so I don't see why I would now.
Why would they see it?
Evo said:Privacy policy "we won't sell your information" my a$$, that is not my concern, my concern is those files getting into someone's hands illegally, either by hackers, or a google employee being bought. Don't think it happens? Think again.
But go ahead.![]()
You do what ever you are comfortable with.Poop-Loops said:What's stopping a nurse at the doctor's just taking the files? Or photocopying them? Or just passing the information via word of mouth?
And how exactly would a Google employee being bought do anything? They don't have access to it, either. Just because a Ford employee made your car doesn't mean he can get into it whenever he wants to.
I mean, I've never had any website where I buy stuff from get hacked, and I have my address and partial credit card info there. I can access my bank account online. I get all my FAFSA stuff done online. Never had a problem. And if it was that much of a problem, it would have been gone years ago.
But the number 1 reason? I just don't care. I fail to see how a single person could benefit from my medical history. And how would a company find out my history? "Oh hey Poop Loops, sit down let's interview. Oh, and give me a few weeks to hack into your GH account and see whether or not you are healthy enough to do physics."
Evo said:You do what ever you are comfortable with.
You really believe that no employees of google can access those records?
You wouldn't believe what I have access to in my job, sure I'm bonded, I'm under federal Government non-disclosure, Homeland Security clearance, etc...
You have never read about the creeps that sold lists of undercover agents to the Soviets that got all of the agents murdered? You aren't aware of the big financial institutions that recently had ther client databases stolen?
These are only google employees.
If you feel ok with it, go ahead. I don't care what you do.
A nurse in a tiny doctor's office has limited access to patients within their practice, it wouldn't make much sense to try to buy people at thousands of small offices for tidbits of information, they'd (the person trying to get the information) be reported and arrested pretty soon. I didn't think that I would have to make something that obvious clear to you.Poop-Loops said:Look Evo, your arguments are completely invalid so long as you don't address the fact that nurses and doctors have access to your files and can screw you over just as easily, but never do. You're telling me a nurse is somehow above such things? No, I think it's simply a case of "I don't care enough to do it."
Poop-Loops said:Look Evo, your arguments are completely invalid so long as you don't address the fact that nurses and doctors have access to your files and can screw you over just as easily, but never do. You're telling me a nurse is somehow above such things? No, I think it's simply a case of "I don't care enough to do it."
If an insurance or future employer could get their hands on my email account, I'm not sure they would consider myself the same wayMoonbear said:insurance company
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