Constructing a Homeomorphism for Homogeneous Topological Spaces

In summary: Yes, that's correct. I plugged in a number for a to see what would happen.In summary, the author is looking for a function that maps an arbitrary point to zero and is surjective. He finds that there are lots of such functions, but is not able to find one that works for all points.
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Homework Statement



For any [itex] a \in \left( -1,1 \right) [/itex] construct a homeomorphism [itex] f_a: \left( -1,1 \right) \longrightarrow \left( -1,1 \right) [/itex] such that [itex] f_a\left( a \right) = 0 [/itex]. Deduce that [itex] \left( -1,1 \right) [/itex] is homogeneous.

Homework Equations



Definition of a homogeneous topological space, ie that the exists a homeomorphism for each pair of points x,y which maps x to y.

The Attempt at a Solution



I can't find a set a functions which map an arbitrary point to zero and is surjective. My attemps include f = x - a, f = |x - a|, f = sin (x-a) but these are not homeomorphic for arbitrary a.
 
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There are lots of such homeomorphisms. Examples:

1) join two straight lines that have different slopes (not necessarily equal to one);

2) use the points (-1, -1), (a, 0), and (1, 1) to pin down a parabola (I think this works, haven't worked the details).
 
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I'd be careful with the parabola idea, since if it actually has a peak in that interval, then it won't take open sets to open sets, but will take any open set that contains the x-value for the axis of symmetry to a half-open set.
 
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LumenPlacidum said:
I'd be careful with the parabola idea, since if it actually has a peak in that interval, then it won't take open sets to open sets, but will take any open set that contains the x-value for the axis of symmetry to a half-open set.

Yes, that's why I said that I think it works. I drew some sketches that make it appear that the max/mins occur outside the interval, but I didn't solve any equations. My sketches could be misleading me.

Obvious choices of line segments in my example 1) give obvious homeomorphisms.
 
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Can you explain what you mean by joining lines? Are you talking about intersecting lines in [tex] R^2 [/tex]?
 
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madness said:
Can you explain what you mean by joining lines? Are you talking about intersecting lines in [tex] R^2 [/tex]?

Yes.

What are [itex]A[/itex] and [itex]B[/itex] such that [itex]f_a \left( x \right) = Ax + B[/itex] has

[tex]\lim_{x \rightarrow -1} f_a \left( x \right) = -1[/tex]

and [itex]f_a \left( a \right) = 0[/itex]?
 
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Right so you have a line starting at the point (-1,-1) and intersecting at (a,0). Unfortunately it does not finish at (1,1), and so it cannot be a bijection from the interval
(-1, 1) to (-1,1). Is this not right?
 
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It can be a bijection so long as the lines are both increasing or both decreasing.
 
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Sorry I must be confused here. I can only see one line other than the interval (-1, 1). I thought you were talking about a line crossing the real axis at the point a.
 
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madness said:
Right so you have a line starting at the point (-1,-1) and intersecting at (a,0). Unfortunately it does not finish at (1,1), and so it cannot be a bijection from the interval
(-1, 1) to (-1,1). Is this not right?

So pick another line from (a,0) to (1,1), and turn f_a into a "schizophrenic" function.
 
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ok so I have for x < a [tex] f_a \left( x \right) = \frac{x-a}{1+a} [/tex]

and for x > a [tex] f_a \left( x \right) = \frac{x-a}{1-a} [/tex]

Which coincide at x = a. Looks good to me.
 
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madness said:
ok so I have for x < a [tex] f_a \left( x \right) = \frac{x-a}{1+a} [/tex]

and for x > a [tex] f_a \left( x \right) = \frac{x-a}{1-a} [/tex]

Which coincide at x = a. Looks good to me.

Looks good if an equality is included for at least one of x < a, x > a.

The question is not done yet, though. You still need to show the deduction that gives that (-1, 1) is a homogeneous space.
 
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I know I was just thinking about that. I need to show that for any x,y in the domain, there is a homeomorphism mapping x to y. Presumably I can somehow use the function I just made, but simple addition of y onto this function doesn't make a homeomorphism.
 
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madness said:
I know I was just thinking about that. I need to show that for any x,y in the domain, there is a homeomorphism mapping x to y. Presumably I can somehow use the function I just made, but simple addition of y onto this function doesn't make a homeomorphism.

Unfortunately, I know only how to give a very small hint, or a very large hint (writing down the answer). Small hint: since both x and y are arbitrary elements of (-1 , 1), you should try things that have both x and y as indices.

Maybe someone else knows a better hint that doesn't give the whole answer away.
 
  • #15
How about this:

[tex] f_b \left( b \right) = 0, f_a^{-1} \left( 0 \right) = a, f_a^{-1} \left( f_b \left( b \right)\right) = a [/tex]?

So that for any a,b we have a homeomorphism (i think) mapping b to a.
 
  • #16
madness said:
How about this:

[tex] f_b \left( b \right) = 0, f_a^{-1} \left( 0 \right) = a, f_a^{-1} \left( f_b \left( b \right)\right) = a [/tex]?

So that for any a,b we have a homeomorphism (i think) mapping b to a.

Yes, that's it. :smile:

I might switch the and b around in one of the places, i.e., either "So that for any b,a we have a homeomorphism," or [itex]f_b^{-1} \left( f_a \left( a \right)\right) = b
[/itex].
 
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Ok thanks that's the problem solved!
 

FAQ: Constructing a Homeomorphism for Homogeneous Topological Spaces

What is a homogeneous topological space?

A homogeneous topological space is a mathematical concept that describes a space in which every point looks the same. This means that there exists a homeomorphism between any two points, which essentially means that there is a continuous function that maps one point to the other without distorting the space.

How is a homogeneous topological space different from a topological space?

A topological space is a general mathematical concept that describes a set of points with a defined structure, while a homogeneous topological space is a specific type of topological space in which every point is equivalent. In other words, a homogeneous topological space is a special case of a topological space.

What are some examples of homogeneous topological spaces?

One example of a homogeneous topological space is the surface of a sphere, where every point is equivalent and can be mapped to any other point on the surface without distorting it. Other examples include Euclidean spaces and the real line.

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The concept of homogeneity is used in topology to study the properties of spaces that are equivalent at every point. This allows for a more rigorous understanding of the structure of these spaces and helps in the classification and comparison of different topological spaces.

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