Convergent/Divergent, find sum

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In summary, we can determine the convergence of a series by finding the limit as n approaches infinity. If the limit is zero, it does not necessarily mean the series is convergent. We must also consider other factors such as the summands.
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Homework Statement


Determine whether the series is convergent or divergent. If it is convergent, find its sum.
[tex]\sum\limits_{n=1}^{\infty} (\frac{1}{e^n}+\frac{1}{n(n+1)})[/tex]


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So I found it's convergent:
[tex]\sum\limits_{n=1}^{\infty} ((\frac{1}{e})^{n}+\frac{1}{(n^{2}+n)})=\sum\limits_{n=1}^{\infty} ((\frac{1}{e})^{n}+\frac{1}{n}-\frac{1}{n+1})[/tex]
[tex]\lim_{n \to \infty}((\frac{1}{e})^{n}+\frac{1}{n}-\frac{1}{n+1})=0+0+0[/tex]
∴ the sum is convergent.

Now how would I find the sum of the series?
 
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iRaid said:

Homework Statement


Determine whether the series is convergent or divergent. If it is convergent, find its sum.
[tex]\sum\limits_{n=1}^{\infty} (\frac{1}{e^n}+\frac{1}{n(n+1)})[/tex]


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


So I found it's convergent:
[tex]\sum\limits_{n=1}^{\infty} ((\frac{1}{e})^{n}+\frac{1}{(n^{2}+n)})=\sum\limits_{n=1}^{\infty} ((\frac{1}{e})^{n}+\frac{1}{n}-\frac{1}{n+1})[/tex]
[tex]\lim_{n \to \infty}((\frac{1}{e})^{n}+\frac{1}{n}-\frac{1}{n+1})=0+0+0[/tex]
∴ the sum is convergent.

Now how would I find the sum of the series?

Having a limit of 0 doesn't show it's convergent. (1/e)^n is geometric. The other two terms from a telescoping series. Find the sums separately.
 
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Dick said:
Having a limit of 0 doesn't show it's convergent. (1/e)^n is geometric. The other two terms from a telescoping series. Find the sums separately.

My professor said that a limit as n approaches infinity that equals zero means the series is convergent.. And I see what you're saying about the sum. Now I'm just confused on the convergent part.
Edit:
For the (1/e)^n I guess you could also say that since |1/e|<1, the series is convergent.
 
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iRaid said:
My professor said that a limit as n approaches infinity that equals zero means the series is convergent.. And I see what you're saying about the sum. Now I'm just confused on the convergent part.
Edit:
For the (1/e)^n I guess you could also say that since |1/e|<1, the series is convergent.

Right for the (1/e)^n. And I hope that's not really what your professor said. If the limit is NOT zero, then it's NOT convergent. Approaching zero doesn't mean it converges. 1/n approaches zero but the series 1/n is not convergent.
 
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Dick said:
Right for the (1/e)^n. And I hope that's not really what your professor said. If the limit is NOT zero, then it's NOT convergent. Approaching zero doesn't mean it converges. 1/n approaches zero but the series 1/n is not convergent.

Oh I see the problem here. 1/n is a harmonic series and divergent. Now how would I go about proving it is convergent?
 
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Also I just checked me notes it says the following:
If [itex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} a_{n}[/itex] is convergent, then [itex]\lim_{n \to \infty}a_{n}=0[/itex] and the opposite if an does not equal 0.

I think there is a difference in what I said and what my notes say right?
 
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iRaid said:
Oh I see the problem here. 1/n is a harmonic series and divergent. Now how would I go about proving it is convergent?

You know that the (1/e)^n part is convergent and you know it's sum. Now do the 1/n-1/(n+1) part. Like I said, it telescopes. If you know those two parts converge then the sum converges.
 
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iRaid said:
Also I just checked me notes it says the following:
If [itex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} a_{n}[/itex] is convergent, then [itex]\lim_{n \to \infty}a_{n}=0[/itex] and the opposite if an does not equal 0.

I think there is a difference in what I said and what my notes say right?

Yes, what you quoted doesn't say that if the limit is 0 then the sum converges.
 
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Dick said:
You know that the (1/e)^n part is convergent and you know it's sum. Now do the 1/n-1/(n+1) part. Like I said, it telescopes. If you know those two parts converge then the sum converges.

Ok then I did it correctly.
Thank you, again.
 
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Dick said:
Yes, what you quoted doesn't say that if the limit is 0 then the sum converges.

So you cannot say the opposite, if [itex]\lim_{n \to \infty} a_{n}=0[/itex] then [itex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}a_{n}[/itex] converges.?
 
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iRaid said:
So you cannot say the opposite, if [itex]\lim_{n \to \infty} a_{n}=0[/itex] then [itex]\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}a_{n}[/itex] converges.?

Doesn't the example of ##a_n=1/n## show that you can't?
 
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Dick said:
Doesn't the example of ##a_n=1/n## show that you can't?

I mean are there any other examples of this, other than the harmonic series?
 
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iRaid said:
I mean are there any other examples of this, other than the harmonic series?

Many. 1/n^(1/2) doesn't converge. 1/log(n) doesn't converge. log(n)/n doesn't converge. But the limits are all zero.
 
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Dick said:
Many. 1/n^(1/2) doesn't converge. 1/log(n) doesn't converge. log(n)/n doesn't converge. But the limits are all zero.

Alright, thanks a lot.
 

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