Correcting an Integral Calculation Using Integration by Parts

In summary, the conversation is about finding the correct integral for the equation F(time) = (Wavelength/4) x cos (2 x pi x frequency x time). The user has used the "integration by parts" rule and has come up with an integral of wavelength x sin(2 x pi x frequency x time) / (8 x pi x frequency). They have checked their calculations using a spreadsheet and found a discrepancy, but the integration is mathematically correct. Suggestions are given for further checking the calculations.
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Boomer
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Hello all - first time posting to this forum and glad to find this place. Not really sure how to make the mathematical script appear so apologies for using regular txt.

I've been trying to find the correct integral to the following equation.

F(time) = (Wavelength/4) x cos (2 x pi x frequency x time)

The integral I've come up with using the "integration by parts" rule follows:

Integral F(t) = wavelength x sin(2 x pi x frequency x time) + C
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8 x pi x frequency

To check the calculations, I put together a spread sheet using averages for the y value to measure areas under the curve in the first equation vs plugging in values for the second. The differences are on the order of 3 magnitude leading me to believe the calculation of the integral is not correct. (The formatting doesn't come out correct in the post. The denominator is supposed to diving in the wavelength -> time numerator portion of the equation.)

Can anyone point out where I made a mistake? Thanks in advance.
 
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Welcome to PF Boomer.
I don't quite follow what you tried to do with a spreadsheet, but I can tell you that the integration is mathematically correct (as you can check by differentiating). Maybe your "averaging" procedure doesn't work as well as you think?
 
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[tex]\int \mathrm{dt} \, \mathrm{fkt}(t) = \int \mathrm{dt} \, \frac{\lambda}{4} \cos \left( 2\pi f t \right) = \frac{\lambda}{8 \pi f} \sin \left( 2\pi f t \right) + C \neq \lambda \sin \left( 2\pi f t \right) + C[/tex]
 
  • #4
When you "plug in values" for the integral, are you taking differences (i.e. definite integrals intF(t2)-intF(t1))? Or have you calculated the constant based on initial conditions? If the differences of the areas you calculated from the areas and the integral all differ by +/- a constant, then you not only obtain confirmation of your data and calculation, but the integration constant for your integral.
 

FAQ: Correcting an Integral Calculation Using Integration by Parts

What is a trig integral question?

A trig integral question is a type of calculus problem that involves solving an integral (or antiderivative) of a trigonometric function. It requires knowledge of trigonometric identities and integration techniques.

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