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Which one is more difficult? ACT or SAT?
Mk said:Makes sense, see?
Darkiekurdo said:Define 'difficult'.
Quincy said:Which one is more difficult? ACT or SAT?
Okay, thank you for the clarification.Quincy said:Requires more thinking, never an obvious answer choice, higher level of vocabulary/comprehension, etc.
Quincy said:Requires more thinking, never an obvious answer choice, higher level of vocabulary/comprehension, etc.
I'm sure you can get into the college you want to without having to pay extra money and learning time so you can get a good score on an extra standardized test.binzing said:Now how to get the money to take both of those tests each year...
Schrodinger's Dog said:What if you can't do SAT's but are gifted at art?
tribdog said:Then you can always collect welfare
Schrodinger's Dog said:So artists are valueless?
tribdog said:You'll never hear me say that. I think artists are very important. Broke, but important.
Schrodinger's Dog said:How does an artist with no ability at maths and English slide under your net? Or a musician? Or a sculptor, or a director?
tribdog said:by becoming a scientist. or an accountant, or a stock broker.
acolavin said:There's a lot of art in Physics. In fact, it was Feynman that said that an artist claims he can see beauty in a rose that a scientist cannot, but a scientist can understand the amazing patterns and complexity of processes required for there to be a rose, and therefor has a better understanding of the rose.
In any case, there is a nice compromise between doing what you want, and making a decent living. I'm lucky: I find physics fun, and should count my blessings.
Back on the subject, the ACT was a better test for me, despite having taken it only once, and the SAT twice. I hold a grudge against the exploiting monopoly that is College Board (they run the SAT). Honestly, I found the ACT easier. Its a long test, but chances are if you're decent at math & science, you'll look a lot better than on the SAT. The best bet is to take both!
Also, I believe you can have fees waived if you cannot afford them.
http://www.collegeboard.com/student/testing/sat/calenfees/feewaivers.html
acolavin said:The SAT and ACT cover a huge amount of criteria, I agree. But if you suck at math, and you're applying to an art school, or music, then you're fine! Maybe the cream of the crop of schools (ivy league, etc) might reject you because you do badly on that part of the test, but generally schools don't just look at your SAT/ACT. They look at your extracurricular activities, and the classes you've taken, and the essays you submit. There is a huge amount of freedom in the states that isn't available in other more socialist countries.
acolavin said:Firstly, a genius with a 150 IQ who does not study will not do well on the test. Intelligence is also a measure of how well one applies oneself.
Secondly, while the other parts of the test might not be as important as your major subjects (say math and physics) they are still necessary. You'll notice, however, that there is no history on either of the tests! I'm willing to assert that everything on either test is an important part of any science-based career. And if you're going into art, I guarantee that they look at other factors, such as what institutions you're part of, etc. They are also testing you on how you learned in high school. Did the school give you the necessary life skills? (Everyone needs math, everyone needs English)
And the tests do not test you on "thousands of subjects". Personally I don't like the tests, but in retrospect they were not as bad as I made them out to be. They test our knowledge of high school material.
acolavin said:I'm not sure what you mean. Dyslexia is a handicap, and there are modifications made to the test environment to make is more fair. I'm not too sure about this process.
With the IQ of 150, you might have an advantage. Although my friends in prestigious colleges (Berkeley, for example) did worse than I did on the SAT and ACT, despite straight As. There is a lot of debate as to whether tests are a fair test of knowledge. The colleges know this. The SATs and ACTs are not as important as they are hyped up to be. You are not defined by that test.
At this point, what are you trying to argue?