Derivative help and specific problem

In summary, The student attempted to solve a derivative problem but was not able to do so. They recommend someone become proficient in taking derivatives in order to pursue a career in physics.
  • #1
biochem850
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Homework Statement


Find derivative of (x^2+1)^2*(x^3-2x)^2


Homework Equations



This is globally a product and you would use the power rule as well as the product rule.



The Attempt at a Solution



[(x^2+1)^2*2(x^3-2x)*3x^2-2]+[(x^3-2x)^2*2(x^2+1)*2x]

I believe I'm correct but I simply cannot simplify my answer. In addition, what would you recommend someone should do if they wanted to become proficient in taking derivatives (I've always liked math and physics and I'm considering changing my major to physics so I'd need to be proficient in derivatives).

 
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  • #2
biochem850 said:

Homework Statement


Find derivative of (x^2+1)^2*(x^3-2x)^2


Homework Equations



This is globally a product and you would use the power rule as well as the product rule.



The Attempt at a Solution



[(x^2+1)^2*2(x^3-2x)*(3x^2-2)]+[(x^3-2x)^2*2(x^2+1)*2x]

I believe I'm correct but I simply cannot simplify my answer. In addition, what would you recommend someone should do if they wanted to become proficient in taking derivatives (I've always liked math and physics and I'm considering changing my major to physics so I'd need to be proficient in derivatives).

Homework Statement


Parentheses are important. I have added some where you left them out. The key to simplifying problems like this is to factor it. Look for common factors in the two terms and factor them out and simplify it.
 
  • #3
I think you did a fine job of taking the derivative, but I'd use a couple more paranthesis. To simplify factor out common factors of (x^2+1) and (x^3-2x) and then see if you can do anything with the rest. I think you are proficient in derivatives. I'd keep on with your current career choice.
 
  • #4
Dick said:
I think you did a fine job of taking the derivative, but I'd use a couple more paranthesis. To simplify factor out common factors of (x^2+1) and (x^3-2x) and then see if you can do anything with the rest. I think you are proficient in derivatives. I'd keep on with your current career choice.

Are you saying I should or should not pursue physics (I'm just curious)?
 
  • #5
I think I've got the simplified derivative:

2x(x^2+1)(x^2-2)(5x^4-3x^2-2)

I factor things out from both terms and then simplified (thanks for the parenthesis suggestion).
 
  • #6
biochem850 said:
I think I've got the simplified derivative:

2x(x^2+1)(x^2-2)(5x^4-3x^2-2)

I factor things out from both terms and then simplified (thanks for the parenthesis suggestion).

That looks good so far. You could factor 5x^4-3x^2-2 some more if you really worked at it. But how much you want to simplify something depends on what you want to do with it. Both math and physics need derivatives and you seem to be able to do them, so a decision to switch shouldn't be based on derivatives.
 

FAQ: Derivative help and specific problem

What is a derivative and why is it important?

A derivative is a mathematical concept that represents the instantaneous rate of change of a function. It is important because it allows us to analyze the behavior of a function at a specific point and make predictions about its future behavior.

How do I find the derivative of a function?

To find the derivative of a function, you can use the rules of differentiation, such as the power rule, product rule, quotient rule, and chain rule. These rules allow you to find the derivative of a function by manipulating its mathematical expression.

What is the difference between a derivative and an antiderivative?

A derivative is the rate of change of a function, while an antiderivative is the inverse operation of differentiation. In other words, an antiderivative represents the original function before it was differentiated.

How can I use derivatives to solve real-world problems?

Derivatives can be used to solve a variety of real-world problems, such as finding the maximum or minimum value of a function, determining the velocity and acceleration of an object, and optimizing business or economic functions.

What are some common mistakes to avoid when solving derivative problems?

Some common mistakes to avoid when solving derivative problems include forgetting to apply the chain rule, not simplifying the derivative expression, and making algebraic errors. It is important to double-check your work and practice regularly to avoid these mistakes.

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