Deriving the Angular Momentum of a Particle: Proof of Differentiation

In summary, the conversation discusses the calculation of the angular momentum of a particle using the equation L = (dr/dt) x mr. The attempt at solving the problem involves trying to write it in the form of y = mx + c and then using the product rule of differentiation. However, there is a lack of knowledge on differentiation and how to apply it to a cross product. The conversation ends with the mention of considering writing r = irx + iry + irz, but not knowing how to apply it in the equation.
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Homework Statement


Angular momentum of a particle is: L = (dr/dt) x mr

Show that (dL/dt) = (d2r/dt2) x mr


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The Attempt at a Solution



My atempt is that I tried writing it in the form y = mx + c but I don't think that would be relevant.

Next I tried straight forward rule application derivision (it was wrong to try that)

Basically, my knowledge on differentiation isn't up to par and so far I haven't tried integrating it but I seriously doubt it'd lead to the answer and I don't know how to apply an intergral of (dL/dt) to the mr term.




Thanks in advance
I've also considered writing r = irx + iry + irz but again, no idea how to apply it in equation.
 
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Do you know the product rule of differentiation? You can apply it to a cross product too. For example, would you be able to do this:

$$\frac{d}{dt}(\vec{A}\times\vec{B})$$

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solarei said:

Homework Statement


Angular momentum of a particle is: L = (dr/dt) x mr
Are you sure this is correct? Angular momentum is usually defined as ##\vec{L} = \vec{r}\times\vec{p}##, where ##\vec{p}=m\vec{v}## is the momentum. It differs from your definition by a sign.

Show that (dL/dt) = (d2r/dt2) x mr


Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution



My atempt is that I tried writing it in the form y = mx + c but I don't think that would be relevant.
Tried writing what? What's "it" supposed to be?

Next I tried straight forward rule application derivision (it was wrong to try that)
What rule? What's "derivision"? I'd guess you mean differentiation, but you used the word differentiation correctly below so perhaps not.

Basically, my knowledge on differentiation isn't up to par
Good, you identified a problem. Now you need to do something to fill the gap in your knowledge. Did you check your book for a similar example? Perhaps there's an appendix that covers or reviews some math. You could try googling "differentiating a cross product".

and so far I haven't tried integrating it but I seriously doubt it'd lead to the answer and I don't know how to apply an intergral of (dL/dt) to the mr term.
Yeah, you're trying to calculate a derivative, so integrating likely isn't going to help.

Thanks in advance
I've also considered writing r = irx + iry + irz but again, no idea how to apply it in equation.
 
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Actually, going over some notes, I can see where errors were made, sorry about that.
 

FAQ: Deriving the Angular Momentum of a Particle: Proof of Differentiation

What is proof of differentiation?

Proof of differentiation is a mathematical process used to find the rate of change or slope of a function at a specific point.

What is the purpose of proof of differentiation?

The purpose of proof of differentiation is to calculate the instantaneous rate of change of a function at a specific point, which can be useful in various applications such as physics, economics, and engineering.

What are the steps involved in proof of differentiation?

The steps involved in proof of differentiation include identifying the function, using the rules of differentiation to find the derivative, and plugging in the specific point to find the instantaneous rate of change.

What are the common methods used in proof of differentiation?

The common methods used in proof of differentiation are the power rule, product rule, quotient rule, and chain rule. These rules are used to differentiate different types of functions.

How is proof of differentiation related to integration?

Proof of differentiation and integration are inverse operations and are closely related. The derivative of a function is used to find the original function through integration, and the integral of a function can be used to find the derivative of the original function.

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