Deriving Vector Area of a Surface S Using the Cross Product

In summary, the conversation is about defining \textbf{a} as the integral of \int_{S}{d\textbf{a}} and showing that it is equal to \frac{1}{2}\oint{\textbf{r}\times d\textbf{l}}. The person is struggling to understand the hint given in the EM book by Griffiths and is asking for help. One suggested approach is to use the cyclicity of the triple product and Stokes' Theorem to simplify the expression. The person then asks if there is a more physical or geometrical way to derive the result.
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Define

[itex]\textbf{a}\equiv\int_{S}{d\textbf{a}} [/itex]

How do I show that [itex]\textbf{a}=\frac{1}{2}\oint{\textbf{r}\times d\textbf{l}}
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Actually, this is the problem of the EM book of Griffiths, but I don't understand his hint.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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One trick is to dot the latter expression with an arbitrary constant vector, and then use cyclicity of the triple product. You should be able to cast it into a form where it is easy to use Stokes' Theorem.
 
  • #3
O.K., I got the result.

But is there any other more physical or geometrical way to derive that?

Thanks!
 

FAQ: Deriving Vector Area of a Surface S Using the Cross Product

What is the definition of vector area of a surface S?

The vector area of a surface S is a quantity that represents the magnitude and direction of the area of a surface. It is a vector because it has both magnitude and direction.

How is the vector area of a surface S calculated?

The vector area of a surface S is calculated by taking the cross product of two vectors that lie in the surface and are perpendicular to each other. This can be represented by the equation A = ||a x b||, where A is the vector area, a and b are the two vectors, and ||a x b|| indicates the magnitude of the cross product.

What is the unit of measurement for vector area of a surface S?

The unit of measurement for vector area of a surface S depends on the unit of measurement used for the two vectors that are being crossed. For example, if the two vectors have units of meters, the vector area will have units of square meters (m^2).

How does the direction of the vector area relate to the surface S?

The direction of the vector area is perpendicular to the surface S. This means that the vector is pointing in a direction that is 90 degrees from the surface at every point on the surface. This direction is important for understanding the orientation of the surface and can be used in various applications such as calculating flux through a surface.

What is the significance of vector area of a surface S in physics and engineering?

The vector area of a surface S has many applications in physics and engineering. It is used in calculating flux, which is an important concept in electromagnetism and fluid mechanics. It is also used in determining the moment of a force acting on a surface, which is important in structural analysis and design. Additionally, the vector area is used in many other fields such as computer graphics, robotics, and computer vision.

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