Difficult Integral of trig and sqrt functions

In summary, The speaker is having trouble solving a particular integral involving trigonometric functions and constants. They have tried multiple methods but have not been successful. They are wondering if there are other methods that can be used to solve this type of integral. The expert suggests using Maple, a software program with a built-in solver for non-standard integrals. The expert also mentions that the integral may be unsolvable using standard calculus methods and gives an example of Maple's solution in terms of Elliptic functions.
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I'm having troubles solving this integral.

∫ (sinx)^2 / √( a - b*cos(x)) dx ; a & b just constants

I've tried many routes but get stuck.
And when substitution and product rule methods seem to fail. Are there other methods useful to go to when integrating strange functions?
 
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dm164 said:
I'm having troubles solving this integral.

∫ (sinx)^2 / √( a - b*cos(x)) dx ; a & b just constants

I've tried many routes but get stuck.
And when substitution and product rule methods seem to fail. Are there other methods useful to go to when integrating strange functions?

When standard methods fail, which is often for "strange" functions I usually try to see if Maple gives an answer. Maple seems to have a built in solver that knows many of the non-standard and lesser studied integrals. For this example I set a = 4 and b = 2 just to see what would happen and Maple gives an answer in terms of Elliptic functions. You aren't going to solve it with the standard calculus methods.
 

FAQ: Difficult Integral of trig and sqrt functions

What is the best approach to solving a difficult integral of trig and sqrt functions?

The best approach to solving a difficult integral of trig and sqrt functions is to first simplify the expression as much as possible. Then, use trigonometric identities and substitution to transform the integral into a more manageable form. Finally, use integration techniques such as integration by parts or partial fractions to solve the integral.

Is it possible to use a calculator to solve these types of integrals?

Yes, it is possible to use a calculator to solve these types of integrals. However, it is important to note that calculators may not always give the most accurate or simplified answer. It is always recommended to double check the solution by hand.

How do I know which trigonometric identity to use in a difficult integral?

The key to knowing which trigonometric identity to use in a difficult integral is to recognize patterns and familiar trigonometric functions. It may also be helpful to manipulate the integral into a form where a specific identity can be applied.

Can I use integration by parts to solve a difficult integral of trig and sqrt functions?

Yes, integration by parts can be a useful technique to solve these types of integrals. It can help simplify the integral or break it down into smaller, more manageable parts. However, it may not always be the best approach and it is important to consider other methods as well.

Are there any tips for solving difficult integrals of trig and sqrt functions?

One tip for solving difficult integrals of trig and sqrt functions is to practice and become familiar with basic trigonometric identities and integration techniques. It can also be helpful to break the integral into smaller parts and solve each part separately. Additionally, don't be afraid to try different approaches until you find the most efficient one.

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