Double Negatives: Is Kaplan PSAT Math Book Wrong?

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In any case, the use of double negatives for emphasis is considered colloquial and is not accepted in formal written English. Therefore, it is not a valid "intended use" in this context. In summary, the book is incorrect in its explanation of double negatives. Adding two negatives together does not make a positive, but rather multiplying two negatives does. Double negatives should be avoided in formal written English as they are considered incorrect and can lead to confusion. They may be used for emphasis in colloquial speech, but this is not considered a valid use in formal writing.
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Hi guys. I was reading a Kaplan PSAT book which is required for my school. I have a little math question that needs to be cleared up.

I stumbled across this (below) and I'm 99% sure the book is wrong. I took a screenshot of it using Google Books.

Am I wrong, or is the book wrong?

http://i.min.us/ibx49LSbJ.png
 
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Qube said:
Hi guys. I was reading a Kaplan PSAT book which is required for my school. I have a little math question that needs to be cleared up.

I stumbled across this (below) and I'm 99% sure the book is wrong. I took a screenshot of it using Google Books.

Am I wrong, or is the book wrong?

http://i.min.us/ibx49LSbJ.png

The book is wrong.
 
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To elaborate, adding two negatives together doesn't make a postive. Multiplying two negatives together makes a positive. In other words, if you negate a negative number, you end up with a positive one (because the way to negate something is to multiply it by -1). This is the analogy the the book was trying (but failed) to make. In English it is similar: if you negate a statement that is already phrased as a negative, then the two cancel each other out. E.g. "I ain't got no money," which in correct English would be, "I haven't got no money." But if you haven't got no money, then you must have some money. So you can see that the meaning of the sentence with the double negative is the same as the meaning of the sentence, "I have got some money." So, double negatives are deemed incorrect in English (i.e. shouldn't be used) because there are only two possible intended uses:

1. An incorrect way of phrasing something as a negative

2. A confusing and unnecessarily convoluted way of phrasing something as an affirmative.
 
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Thanks guys for debunking this math screw-up :).
 
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cepheid said:
To elaborate, adding two negatives together doesn't make a postive. Multiplying two negatives together makes a positive. In other words, if you negate a negative number, you end up with a positive one (because the way to negate something is to multiply it by -1). This is the analogy the the book was trying (but failed) to make. In English it is similar: if you negate a statement that is already phrased as a negative, then the two cancel each other out. E.g. "I ain't got no money," which in correct English would be, "I haven't got no money." But if you haven't got no money, then you must have some money. So you can see that the meaning of the sentence with the double negative is the same as the meaning of the sentence, "I have got some money." So, double negatives are deemed incorrect in English (i.e. shouldn't be used) because there are only two possible intended uses:

1. An incorrect way of phrasing something as a negative

2. A confusing and unnecessarily convoluted way of phrasing something as an affirmative.

Cepeid gave good explanation but to add,
For those learning to be puritans of English:
E.g. "I ain't got no money,"
"ain't got " - ain't is not an (acceptable) word in proper English.

And the "got" is poor colloquial spoken English, and should be eliminated.
"I have got some money " --> "I have some money".


Intended use number 3.
Double negatives are used in English to also provide emphasis to certain thoughts or ideas, that without, lacks what a speaker or writer wishes to convey. At times the double negatives do not cancel out as one wishes to think.

A simple example
"That cat will never not stop scratching my furnature!" <-- emphasis
Means the same as " "That cat will never stop scratching my furnature!" <-- booring
or "That cat will not stop scratching my furnature!" < - booring

BUT it does not mean
""That cat will stop scratching my furnature!" <- double negaive elimination
 
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256bits said:
Intended use number 3.
Double negatives are used in English to also provide emphasis to certain thoughts or ideas, that without, lacks what a speaker or writer wishes to convey. At times the double negatives do not cancel out as one wishes to think.

A simple example
"That cat will never not stop scratching my furnature!" <-- emphasis
Do you have any examples of anyone actually talking or writing like this?
256bits said:
Means the same as " "That cat will never stop scratching my furnature!" <-- booring
or "That cat will not stop scratching my furnature!" < - booring

BUT it does not mean
""That cat will stop scratching my furnature!" <- double negaive elimination
IMO, cepheid pretty well covered things with his two examples. I'm not sure what you're trying to convey with your "simple" example.
 

FAQ: Double Negatives: Is Kaplan PSAT Math Book Wrong?

What is a double negative in math?

A double negative in math occurs when two negative numbers or expressions are used in the same statement or equation. For example, "I don't have none" is a double negative because "don't" and "none" both have a negative meaning.

Why are double negatives considered incorrect in math?

In math, double negatives are considered incorrect because they can create confusion and ambiguity in the meaning of a statement or equation. It is generally accepted that a negative number or expression should only be used once in a statement to avoid this confusion.

What is the correct way to express a negative statement or equation in math?

The correct way to express a negative statement or equation in math is to use only one negative number or expression. For example, "I have no apples" is a correct way to express a negative statement, rather than "I don't have none". Similarly, "x + (-5)" is a correct way to write a negative expression, rather than "x + (-(-5))".

Is the Kaplan PSAT Math Book wrong for using double negatives?

While the use of double negatives may not be technically incorrect in everyday language, it is generally considered incorrect in math. Therefore, if the Kaplan PSAT Math Book uses double negatives in math problems, it could be considered incorrect in that context.

How can I avoid using double negatives in math?

The best way to avoid using double negatives in math is to carefully check your work and make sure that each statement or equation only contains one negative number or expression. It may also be helpful to review the rules of negative numbers and expressions in math to ensure understanding and accuracy.

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