Finding electric potential with non-uniform charge density?

In summary, the problem at hand involves finding the electric potential everywhere on a spherical shell with a given charge density of σ=k*sinθ, k being a constant. Direct integration is desired, using the formula V=1/4piε ∫σ/r da. The integral boundaries for Vinside and Voutside are being questioned, as well as the expansion of the Green's function in terms of Legendre polynomials or spherical harmonics. The problem also involves determining the electric field and potential inside a metal shell and the potential at infinity. It is suggested to move this discussion to a homework forum for further assistance.
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We have a spherical shell. We want to find the electric potential everywhere. Given charge density σ=k*sinθ, k is constant. Also it is wanted from direct integration. V=1/4piε ∫σ/r da. How can we do this, please help?
I thought because it is sphere da is in the direction of r so da=r^2sinθ dθ d(phi) in spherical coordinates but I couldn't solve it.
 
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Have tried ∫sin² x dx = ½ x − ¼ sin 2x + C?
 
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My question is what would be the integral boundaries for Vinside and Voutside. When you just integrate sin^2x dx you just get one result. How can you write for inside and for outside?
 
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The electric filed is zero. Gauss theorem. The volume inside does not have a charge. You cannot have a closed surface with a charge inside, ∇ρ=0, because all the charges are distributed on the surface. That's the reason why the electric field inside a metal is zero. But the potential is cte or zero. It is the same from the physical point of view
 
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There is an expansion of the Green's function in terms of Legendre polynomials. You could use that. If that doen't work, then you could use the expansion of the Green's function in terms of spherical harmonics. Refer chapter 3 of Jackson, 3rd edition, in particular, section 3.3 .
Since this problem has azimuthal symmetry, you may also want to have a look at equation 3.33 in Jackson and apply the boundary conditions that the potential is zero at infinity and should be finite at zero.
@ cabrera:
woudn't agree with you as:
1) Nothing mentioned in the problem specifies that it is a metal.
2) Charge density does not have spherical symmetry.
 
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physwizard, I meant inside the shell. The field should zero,shouldn't it?
 
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cabrera said:
physwizard, I meant inside the shell. The field should zero,shouldn't it?

no, not with a non-conducting shell. The charges don't move around on a non-conductor.

Suggest that we move this to the homework forum and follow the rules there?
 
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If the charge density was uniform, wouldn't the potential inside be equal to the potential of the surface? V=1/4pi epsilon * Q/R . But in this case the charge density is not uniform. Also it is a conducting shell so i think the electric field inside should be zero because of gauss law, there is no q enclosed since all the q is on surface then field=0
 

FAQ: Finding electric potential with non-uniform charge density?

What is electric potential?

Electric potential is the amount of electric potential energy per unit charge at a specific point in an electric field. It is measured in volts (V).

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Non-uniform charge density means that the distribution of electric charge is not evenly spread out. This can occur when there are areas with higher or lower concentrations of charge in an electric field.

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