Finding length with two given frequencies

In summary, to find the depth of an abandoned mine shaft, you can use an audio oscillator with variable frequency to produce successive resonances at 83.72 Hz and 107.64 Hz. Using the equation f = n*Vs/(4L), where f is the frequency, n is the harmonic number, Vs is the speed of sound, and L is the depth of the shaft, you can solve for L by setting the two equations equal to each other and solving for L. However, if the lower frequency is not the fundamental, this method will not work.
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Homework Statement



You find an abandoned mine shaft and wish to measure its depth. Using an audio oscillator of variable frequency, you note that you can produce successive resonances at frequencies of 83.72 Hz and 107.64 Hz. What is the depth of the shaft? Assume the temperature in the shaft is 20 °C.

Vs = 343 m/s

Homework Equations



f = n*Vs/(4L)

The Attempt at a Solution



83.72 = n1*343/(4L) 107.64 = n2*343/(4L)

When I solve for L on one of the equations to plug into the other. The L's end up canceling each other out, so I don't get L which is what I am trying to find.
 
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leinad0213 said:

Homework Statement



You find an abandoned mine shaft and wish to measure its depth. Using an audio oscillator of variable frequency, you note that you can produce successive resonances at frequencies of 83.72 Hz and 107.64 Hz. What is the depth of the shaft? Assume the temperature in the shaft is 20 °C.

Vs = 343 m/s

Homework Equations



f = n*Vs/(4L)

The Attempt at a Solution



83.72 = n1*343/(4L) 107.64 = n2*343/(4L)

When I solve for L on one of the equations to plug into the other. The L's end up canceling each other out, so I don't get L which is what I am trying to find.

Looks like you have assumed the lower frequency is the fundamental. If it was, the next frequency to resonate would be 3 times. clearly 107 is not 3 x 83, so neither is the fundamental.
 

FAQ: Finding length with two given frequencies

How can two given frequencies be used to find length?

Two given frequencies can be used to find length by using the formula: length = wavelength x frequency. The wavelength can be determined by dividing the speed of the wave by its frequency.

What is the relationship between frequency and wavelength?

The relationship between frequency and wavelength is inversely proportional. This means that as frequency increases, wavelength decreases, and vice versa.

What units are used to measure frequency and wavelength?

Frequency is measured in Hertz (Hz), which represents the number of cycles or waves per second. Wavelength is measured in meters (m), as it represents the distance between two corresponding points on a wave.

Can two different frequencies have the same wavelength?

Yes, two different frequencies can have the same wavelength. This can occur when the two frequencies have a ratio that is a whole number, such as 2:1 or 3:1. In this case, they are considered to be harmonics of each other.

Is it possible to find the speed of a wave with two given frequencies?

No, it is not possible to find the speed of a wave with only two given frequencies. The speed of a wave can only be determined if the wavelength is also known, as it is a crucial component of the formula speed = wavelength x frequency.

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