Finding the EMF Generated by a Solenoid

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the EMF induced by a circular loop in a solenoid, using equations for magnetic field and flux. The conversation also includes confusion about relating the given frequency to the problem and determining the amplitude of the wave equation. Finally, the correct equation for the EMF is determined to be E=\mu_0 I_0 NA \omega.
  • #1
exitwound
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This is not a homework problem due. It's practice. I have the answer of .198mV. I don't know how to get it.

Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



[tex]\phi_b = \int \vec B \cdot d\vec A[/tex]

[tex]E = -\frac{d\phi_b}{dt}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



The magnetic field due to the solenoid is:

[tex]\mu_o i N[/tex]
[tex](1.26x10^{-6})(1.28 A)(85400 turns/m) = 1.37x10^{-1} T[/tex]

The flux through the circular loop is:

[tex]\phi_b = \int \vec B \cdat d\vec A[/tex]
[tex]\phi_b = BAcos 0 = BA[/tex]

[tex]B = 1.37x10^{-1}[/tex] [tex]A=6.8x10{-3}[/tex]
[tex]\phi_b = BAcos 0 = BA = (1.37x10^{1})(6.8x10^{-3})= 9.34x10^{-4} Wb[/tex]

To find the EMF induced:
[tex]E = -\frac{d\phi_b}{dt}[/tex]

I don't know where to go from here. How do I relate that 212rad/s to the problem?
 
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  • #2
Try putting I=I0sin(ωt) to get the magnetic field.

Then use Φ=NBA

and then use E=-dΦ/dt
 
  • #3
So instead of using

[tex]B=\mu_o i_o N[/tex] we use:

[tex]B=\mu_o i_osin(\omega t)N[/tex] which leads to

[tex]\phi = BA = \mu_o i_osin(\omega t)NA[/tex]

[tex]E = -\frac{d\phi_b}{dt}[/tex]

[tex]E = -\frac{d}{dt}\mu_o i_osin(\omega t)NA[/tex]

[tex]E = -\mu_o i_oNA\frac{d}{dt}(sin(\omega t))[/tex]

Is this how you meant? I think I'm lost.
 
  • #4
exitwound said:
So instead of using

[tex]B=\mu_o i_o N[/tex] we use:

[tex]B=\mu_o i_osin(\omega t)N[/tex] which leads to

[tex]\phi = BA = \mu_o i_osin(\omega t)NA[/tex]

[tex]E = -\frac{d\phi_b}{dt}[/tex]

[tex]E = -\frac{d}{dt}\mu_o i_osin(\omega t)NA[/tex]

[tex]E = -\mu_o i_oNA\frac{d}{dt}(sin(\omega t))[/tex]

Is this how you meant? I think I'm lost.

right yes and what is d/dt(sinωt) ?
 
  • #5
As far as I can tell, (cos t)(ω)? Maybe??
 
  • #6
exitwound said:
As far as I can tell, (cos t)(ω)? Maybe??

So then


[tex]E=\mu_0 I_0 NBA \omega cos(\omega t)[/tex]


so what is the amplitude?
 
  • #7
The amplitude of the wave is 1.28 at maximum. But I don't know what that gets me.
 
  • #8
exitwound said:
The amplitude of the wave is 1.28 at maximum. But I don't know what that gets me.

no that is for the current



[tex]E=\mu_0 I_0 NBA \omega cos(\omega t)[/tex]

What is the amplitude of E?
 
  • #9
I don't understand.
 
  • #10
The amplitude is equivalent to the maximum point on the wave that a wave equation describes.

Remember that cosine (and indeed sine) functions vary between -1 and 1, so the maximum cos value you can get is 1.

So what is the maximum that E can be in that equation?
 
  • #11
(I think we have a typo. There shouldn't be a B in the equation, should there?)

Would it be: [tex]
E=\mu_0 I_0 NA \omega
[/tex]
because cos (ωt)=1?
 
  • #12
exitwound said:
(I think we have a typo. There shouldn't be a B in the equation, should there?)

Would it be: [tex]
E=\mu_0 I_0 NA \omega
[/tex]
because cos (ωt)=1?

Yes the B should be there.

so the amplitude would be

[tex]E= \mu_0 I_0 NBA\omega[/tex]EDIT: sorry you are right, it is [itex]E=\mu_0 I_0 NA \omega[/itex]
 

FAQ: Finding the EMF Generated by a Solenoid

What is a solenoid?

A solenoid is a cylindrical coil of wire that carries an electric current. It generates a magnetic field when an electric current passes through it.

How is EMF generated by a solenoid?

EMF, or electromagnetic force, is generated when there is a change in the magnetic field of a solenoid. This change can be caused by a changing current or by moving the solenoid through a magnetic field.

What factors affect the EMF generated by a solenoid?

The strength of the magnetic field in a solenoid is affected by the number of coils, the amount of current passing through the coils, and the permeability of the core material. The rate of change of the magnetic field also affects the EMF generated.

Why is it important to measure the EMF generated by a solenoid?

Measuring the EMF generated by a solenoid is important in understanding the behavior of electricity and magnetism. It can also be useful in various applications, such as in the design of electrical devices and motors.

How can the EMF generated by a solenoid be measured?

The EMF generated by a solenoid can be measured using a voltmeter or by calculating it using the equation EMF = -N(dΦ/dt), where N is the number of turns in the solenoid, and (dΦ/dt) is the rate of change of the magnetic flux through the solenoid.

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