Finding the Final Velocity of a Box Sliding Across a Rough Surface

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In summary, the conversation is discussing the calculation of the final velocity of a box sliding across a rough surface. The initial velocity and coefficient of friction are given, and the work-energy theorem is used to determine the final velocity. However, it is noted that the force of friction should be negative in the equation, and the angle between the force and motion is 180 degrees. This explains the discrepancy in the calculated value for the final velocity.
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I am wondering if someone could guide me on this. I am getting a vf of 4.6m/s, which can't be right, considering vi is only 3.8m/s.

A box slides across a frictionless floor with an initial speed v = 3.8
m/s. It encounters a rough region where the coefficient of friction is
µk = 0.7. If the strip is 0.52 m long, with what speed does the box
leave the strip?

My thoughts:
F=µk*N=µk*g*m=6.867*m
vi=3.8 m/s

Using work-energy theorem:
F*d = .5*m*vf^2 - .5*m*vi^2
6.867*d*m = m*(.5*vf^2 - .5*vi^2)
m's cancel
6.867*.52 + .5*vi^2 =.5*vf^2
3.4335 + .5*(3.8)^2 =.5*vf^2
(3.4335 + 7.22)*2=vf^2
sqrt (21.307) = vf
4.62 = vf

Ridiculous. What am I doing wrong?
 
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taveuni said:
My thoughts:
F=µk*N=µk*g*m=6.867*m
vi=3.8 m/s

Using work-energy theorem:
F*d = .5*m*vf^2 - .5*m*vi^2

Because the force of friction is doing work against the motion, it should actually be:

-F*d= .5mvf^2 - .5*m*vi^2

When calculating work, it's force*distance*cos(theta), where theta is the angle between the force and the movement. In this case, theta is 180 degrees, so cos(theta) = -1
 
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Thank you so much.
 
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taveuni said:
Using work-energy theorem:
F*d = .5*m*vf^2 - .5*m*vi^2
6.867*d*m = m*(.5*vf^2 - .5*vi^2)

Ridiculous. What am I doing wrong?

You must realize that, by definition, F.d is negative. The force is not in the direction of motion.

EDIT: Guess I was a bit late. ;)
 
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I'm going to venture a guess and say that since you know that logically the object will slow down, vf will be less than vi, so in the work-energy equation you have, the right hand side would have to be negative to satisfy this condition. Hence the left hand side would have to be negative to make satisfy the equality. Also, since work = F*d*cos(theta) and theta here is 180 degrees since it is acting in the direction opposite of the motion. I'm not too sure on any of this, but when i put in a negative 3.43 i get a final velocity around 2.something m/s, which makes more sense

EDIT: Guess I was even later...
 

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