Gravity Concept: Is it Wave or Geometry Blending?

In summary: Thanks for the clarification. That makes a lot of sense. It's interesting how everything comes together in the end.In summary,-Gravity is the curvature of space, and gravitational waves are ripples in the curvature.-Consider the ripples on a ponds surface, they propagate as a wave and they also warp the surface of the pond.-You are essentially looking at the same thing from different viewpoints conceptually, describing the same thing in different ways.-The value is that how we understand something and describe it allows us to see a set of characteristics, so if we can view the same thing in several ways and extract different characteristics from each view, we gain a
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Hi,
I have a conceptual problem about Gravity.

According to GR, gravity is simply a blending of space and it is NOT a force. However, I always hear that there is a so called gravitation wave. So, I am confused. Is it a wave? or a geometry blending??

Please correct me this concept.
thanks
Alex
 
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Welcome to PF!

Hi Alex! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(btw, it's "bending", not "blending" :wink:)

Gravity is curvature of space, and gravitational waves are ripples in the curvature.
 
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Consider the ripples on a ponds surface, they propagate as a wave and they also warp the surface of the pond. You are essentially looking at the same thing from different viewpoints conceptually, describing the same thing in different ways. The value is that how we understand something and describe it allows us to see a set of characteristics, so if we can view the same thing in several ways and extract different characteristics from each view, we gain a deeper understanding of the underlying principles that govern that thing.
 
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Thanks Tim for correcting me my word. I am a self-learner in physics and I am excited to come here. It is an informative forum.

LouMazero, so it means my understanding are valid for both bending and wave concept.
 
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I like this question! It's said that the curvature of spacetime makes objects "roll" ("ripple"?)towards the source of the curvature, right? But does this really make gravity any more understood? Before, we just questioned why an apple rolls down a hill. Now we get to question why matter rolls down curved spacetime! Is this right or is there a way to understand this that I just haven't run across yet?
 
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When I asked this question, I have thought another question.
Einstein's brilliant idea explains the gravity and it causes our planets move around the Sun.
However, what makes the planets start to move around so that the planet can move around the curve. By the way, I can also guess that our Solar system is contracting since planets will move to the source of curvature as Hoku said.

Sorry please correct me if I have anohter misunderstand.
Alex
 
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I believe what started the planets orbiting the sun was simple momentum from the big bang. Everything was already in motion as the solar system formed.

I don't think the planets are getting closer to the sun. I think there's a precise ratio between the distance of a satellite from it's "host" and the velocity of the satellite that determines whether a satellite maintains orbit, leaves orbit or plummets directly towards the source. I think this ratio is *just so* with the satellites in our solar system that gravity actually helps maintain the satellites momentum, preventing a "collapse" in it's orbit. Is this right? But if the satellite get's to close, then it begins to "contract" towards the host until it has landed.
 
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I guess planets get closer to Sun because of precession of the planets. Example: Mecury has 43 degree / 100 yrs and so other planets.
 
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If you mean the precession "caused" by general relativity, no …

general relativity shows that a planet orbits in an ellipse of constant shape, at the same distances, but that the ellipse very slowly turns.
 
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tiny-tim said:
If you mean the precession "caused" by general relativity, no …

general relativity shows that a planet orbits in an ellipse of constant shape, at the same distances, but that the ellipse very slowly turns.


In fact, I have no idea why the precession occurs. I just guess there is an external force that caused this effect.
 

FAQ: Gravity Concept: Is it Wave or Geometry Blending?

What is the current understanding of the nature of gravity?

The current understanding is that gravity is a fundamental force of nature that causes objects with mass to attract one another. It is described by Einstein's theory of general relativity, which explains gravity as the curvature of spacetime caused by the presence of matter.

Is gravity a wave or a geometric phenomenon?

This is still a topic of debate among scientists. According to general relativity, gravity is a geometric phenomenon, where the curvature of spacetime is responsible for the attraction between objects. However, some theories, such as string theory, suggest that gravity may also have a wave-like nature.

How does the concept of gravity relate to the concept of space-time?

In general relativity, gravity is described as the curvature of spacetime. This means that gravity is not a force like in Newton's theory, but rather a result of the interaction between mass and the fabric of spacetime.

How do scientists study the nature of gravity?

Scientists study gravity through various experiments and observations. This includes measuring the effects of gravity on objects, studying the movement of celestial bodies, and testing the predictions of Einstein's general relativity theory.

Can gravity be explained by a single theory?

At this time, there is no single theory that fully explains gravity. While general relativity has been incredibly successful in describing gravity on a large scale, it does not fully align with quantum mechanics, which explains the behavior of particles on a small scale. This has led to ongoing research and proposed theories, such as string theory, in an attempt to unify the understanding of gravity with other fundamental forces.

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