Help with Integral: Int(sqrt(a^2sin^2(t)+b^2cos^2(t))dt

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In summary, A user is seeking help with an integral problem involving the square root of a^2sin^2(t) + b^2cos^2(t). They have already tried simplifying and using trigonometric identities, but are still struggling. Another user suggests splitting the integral and using identities, but the first user clarifies that a and b are arbitrary constants and the integral is actually the arc length of an ellipse. The second user mentions that there is no analytical solution to this problem and shares an exact expression for the circumference of an ellipse. The first user thanks them for their reply and the conversation ends with a summary of the discussion.
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Can anyone help me through the following integral? I already know the solution, the process of finding it is what I am concerned with.
(Not sure what the proper notation is for writing this on a forum)

Int(sqrt(a^2sin^2(t)+b^2cos^2(t))dt from t = 0, t = 2pi

I tried simplifying by dividing through with a bcos(t) so the sqrt would be tan^2+1 and so forth. This really didn't get me anywhere, however. All help is appreciated.
 
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Just split the integral in two and use the identities:
sin^2(x)=1/2(1-cos(2x))
cos^2(x)=1/2(1+cos(2x))

or notice that [itex]\int_0^{2\pi}sin^2xdx=\int_0^{2\pi}cos^2xdx[/itex] and use [itex]cos^2x+sin^2x=1[/itex] for a quick evaluation.
 
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Thanks for your reply, however, I think your incorrect. First, I didn't mention that a and b are some arbitrary constants. Secondly, the integral isn't a^2sin^2(t)+ b^2cos^2(t), it's the square root of that quantity, so splitting the integral doesn't apply here, I believe. I tried half angle formula's and that didn't seem to get me anywhere, either. By the way, incase anyone is interested, this integral is suppose to yield the circumference of an ellipse.
 
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"By the way, incase anyone is interested, this integral is suppose to yield the circumference of an ellipse."

Sure enough, and no one today has found an analytical solution to that problem.
 
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Isn't it suppose to be expressed as an infinite series? Like I said earlier, I was looking for the process of how to get that answer.
 
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SomeRandomGuy said:
The integral isn't a^2sin^2(t)+ b^2cos^2(t), it's the square root
Ah, I overlooked the 'sqrt' part.

The integral represents the arc length of the curve with parametric equations:
x=acos(t)
y=bsint(t)

Which is, as you said, an ellipse. The parametric equation can be written as an equation in x and y alone:
[tex]\left(\frac{x}{a}\right)^2+\left(\frac{y}{b}\right)^2=1[/tex]
which is the general equation of an ellipse with eccentricity [itex]e=\sqrt{1-\frac{b^2}{a^2}}[/itex].

Exact expressions exists. This one is by MacLaurin (in 1742):
[tex]P=2a\pi\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}\left(\frac{-1}{(2n-1)}\right)\left(\frac{(2n)!}{(2^n n!)^2}\right)^2e^{2n}[/tex]
where e is the eccentricity.
 
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Thanks for your reply. That seems to make some sense.
 

FAQ: Help with Integral: Int(sqrt(a^2sin^2(t)+b^2cos^2(t))dt

What is an integral?

An integral is a mathematical concept that represents the area under a curve in a graph. It is used to solve problems related to finding the total amount of something, such as distance or volume, by breaking the problem down into smaller parts and adding them together.

What does "sqrt" mean in the integral expression?

The "sqrt" in the integral expression stands for square root. It indicates that the expression inside the square root symbol needs to be calculated and then the square root of that value will be used in the integral.

How do I solve this integral?

To solve this integral, you need to use integration techniques such as substitution or trigonometric identities. First, you need to simplify the expression inside the square root using algebraic manipulations. Then, use one of the integration techniques to find the antiderivative of the simplified expression. Finally, substitute the limits of integration and evaluate the integral.

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How can I check if my solution to the integral is correct?

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