How Can You Simplify Engineering Units in Calculations?

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In summary, the conversation discusses ways to reduce composite units like Mg/ms into proper units without prefixes. Suggestions include using scientific notation and working backwards from the base unit to simplify the denominator. It is also recommended to get rid of all prefixes except for those on kg to avoid making mistakes.
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I am trying to get used to engineering prefixes and such. I would like to come up with a general way to reduce garbage composite units like Mg/ms into proper units.

Anybody have a general way. I know that my end result is to have no prefixes in denominator (except kg).

Should I break everything up into scientific notation and tryto build the denominator to the base unit (in this case seconds) or what? How do you go about these.

I am sure after awhile I won't even think about it, but for now I would like a logical method if possible.

Thanks,
Casey
 
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Do you mean just lose the multiplier prefix ( milli/micro/kilo etc) or do you mean reduce to base units mass/length/time etc ?

Removing the prefix is easy, just put the approriate powers of 10 and cancel.
Reducing to base units isn't always useful - no engineer wants a rate of pressure change in kg m^3 s^-3
 
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mgb_phys said:
Do you mean just lose the multiplier prefix ( milli/micro/kilo etc) or do you mean reduce to base units mass/length/time etc ?

Removing the prefix is easy, just put the approriate powers of 10 and cancel.
Reducing to base units isn't always useful - no engineer wants a rate of pressure change in kg m^3 s^-3

The former. I have Mg/ms and I just want it to "look pretty".

So I should start with [tex]\frac{Mg}{ms}=\frac{1*10^6g}{1*10^{-3}}s=1*10^9\frac{g}{s}=\frac{1Gg}{s}[/tex]

So I could say in general: establish the base unit to be used in the denominator.
Re-write denominator as such.
Re-write numerator in powers of 10 of its respctive base-unit.
Work from there.

This should work.

Thanks,
Casey
 
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What about 1 mN/(kg*mu s) Should I keep kg in denominator since it is base unit of mass? Or change to something else?

[tex]1\frac{mN}{kg\cdot \mu s}=1\frac{kN}{kg\cdot s}[/tex] or is this poor form?

Sorry guys, but get ready for lots of stupid questions! I am taking a directed study over x-mas break in Statics. I am only meeting with the prof 5 or 6 times. The rest is on me (with PF help of course:wink:)

Casey
 
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You always want to get back to your base units. In your case kg, m and sec. All other units are going to be based on them. Unless you have special applications in which you already know the units will fall out for you.

When I come across problems with units like you have shown, the first thing I do is get rid of all of the prefixes, except for those on kg. Use those for all of your calculations and then convert back to prefixed units at the end. I find it too easy to make a mistake that will make you orders of magnitude off.

In your example above, make it:

[tex]1 \frac{mN}{kg*\mu s} = 1000 \frac{N}{kg*s} = 1000 \frac{m}{s^3}[/tex]

The last simplification may not be a good thing to do if you need the extra units to simplify the units at the end. That would be up to you.
 

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