How Is the Second Derivative of an Inverse Function Calculated?

In summary, the conversation discussed the formula for finding the derivative of x(y) with respect to y, which involves taking the derivative of y(x) with respect to x. This led to a discussion of the formula for finding the second derivative of x(y) in terms of derivatives of y with respect to x. The conversation then questioned the origin of this formula and referenced a Wikipedia page on integration of inverse functions. Further, there was a discussion about an error in the formula and how to correctly calculate the integral using integration by parts.
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Jhenrique
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I can derivate x(y) wrt y using the derivative of y(x) wrt x, follows the formula: [tex]\frac{dx}{dy}=\frac{1}{\frac{dy}{dx}}[/tex] until same the 2nd derivative (taking the 2nd diff form of x and deriving wrt to x):[tex]d^2x=\frac{d^2 x}{dy^2} dy^2 + \frac{dx}{dy} d^2y[/tex] [tex]\frac{d^2x}{dx^2}=\frac{d^2 x}{dy^2} \frac{dy^2}{dx^2} + \frac{dx}{dy} \frac{d^2y}{dx^2}[/tex] [tex]0=\frac{d^2 x}{dy^2} \frac{dy^2}{dx^2} + \frac{dx}{dy} \frac{d^2y}{dx^2}[/tex] solving for d²x/dy²: [tex]\frac{d^2x}{dy^2}=-\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}\frac{1}{\left( \frac{dy}{dx} \right)^3}[/tex] I think that this is a razoable deduction for the formula of d²x/dy² in terms of derivatives of y wrt x.


Now, where it came from this formula?

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links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integration_of_inverse_functions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse_functions_and_differentiation
 
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Put y=f(x) and solve by substitution method.
 
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Jhenrique said:
I can derivate x(y) wrt y using the derivative of y(x) wrt x, follows the formula: [tex]\frac{dx}{dy}=\frac{1}{\frac{dy}{dx}}[/tex] until same the 2nd derivative (taking the 2nd diff form of x and deriving wrt to x):[tex]d^2x=\frac{d^2 x}{dy^2} dy^2 + \frac{dx}{dy} d^2y[/tex] [tex]\frac{d^2x}{dx^2}=\frac{d^2 x}{dy^2} \frac{dy^2}{dx^2} + \frac{dx}{dy} \frac{d^2y}{dx^2}[/tex] [tex]0=\frac{d^2 x}{dy^2} \frac{dy^2}{dx^2} + \frac{dx}{dy} \frac{d^2y}{dx^2}[/tex] solving for d²x/dy²: [tex]\frac{d^2x}{dy^2}=-\frac{d^2y}{dx^2}\frac{1}{\left( \frac{dy}{dx} \right)^3}[/tex] I think that this is a razoable deduction for the formula of d²x/dy² in terms of derivatives of y wrt x.
I don't know if the above is reasonable (no such word as "razoable" in English). It would help if you added some words to say what you're doing.

BTW, you don't "derivate" something to get its derivative - you differentiate it. As far as I know, "derivate" is not a word, certainly not as used in mathematics.
Jhenrique said:
Now, where it came from this formula?

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There seems to be an error in this formula.
It should say the following:
$$ \int f^{-1}(y)dy = yf^{-1}(y) - F ° f^{-1}(y) + C$$
The error in the wiki page you linked to is in the first term on the right side. They have x f-1(y), but it should by yf-1(y). The three examples are consistent with what I have, but not what they have for their general formula.

Calculating this integral is not very difficult using integration by parts.

Let y = f(x) (⇔ x = f-1(y))
Then dy = f'(x) dx

Using this substitution, the integral ##\int f^{-1}(y)dy ## becomes ##\int x \cdot f'(x)dx##.

Using integration by parts, with u = x and dv = f'(x)dx,
we have du = dx and v = ∫f'(x)dx = f(x). (Don't need the constant yet.)

So ##\int x \cdot f'(x)dx = x f(x) - \int f(x) dx##
Since x = f-1(y), and f(x) = y, we have
f-1(y) * y + F(x) + C

Here, F is an antiderivative of f.
Jhenrique said:
 

FAQ: How Is the Second Derivative of an Inverse Function Calculated?

What is the concept of integral by inverse function?

The concept of integral by inverse function is a method used to evaluate definite integrals by substituting the limits of integration with the inverse function of the original variable. It is based on the fundamental theorem of calculus, which states that the integral of a function can be evaluated by finding its antiderivative.

How is integral by inverse function different from regular integration?

Integral by inverse function is different from regular integration in that it involves the use of inverse functions to evaluate integrals, while regular integration uses standard techniques such as integration by parts or substitution. It is a more specialized approach that can be useful in certain cases.

What are some common applications of integral by inverse function?

Integral by inverse function has many applications in mathematics and physics, particularly in problems involving motion and change. It is also useful in solving optimization problems and calculating areas under curves.

What are the steps involved in using integral by inverse function?

The first step in using integral by inverse function is to identify the variable of integration and its inverse function. Next, substitute the limits of integration with the appropriate inverse function. Then, evaluate the integral using regular integration techniques. Finally, substitute the original variable back into the answer.

Are there any limitations to using integral by inverse function?

Yes, there are some limitations to using integral by inverse function. It can only be applied to functions that have a well-defined inverse, and it may not always give the most efficient solution to a problem. Additionally, it may be challenging to find the inverse function in some cases.

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