How to determine which point to take the moment about?

In summary, the conversation discussed the problem of determining the reactions at C, D, and E for a T-shaped bracket supported by a small wheel at E and pegs at C and D. The person had taken the moment about E and found a result for all the reactions, but the solutions suggested taking the moment about D instead. They asked for clarification on the difference between choosing one point over the other. The response stated that for a system in equilibrium, moments can be summed about any point, but it may be simpler and reduce chances for errors to choose a specific point. They also suggested solving for Ex and Ey first before summing moments about D or C. The conversation ended with a thank you.
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Problem -
  1. The T-shaped bracket shown is supported by a small wheel at E and pegs at C and D. Neglecting the effect of friction, determine the reactions at C, D, and E when the angle is 30 degrees.

    I have taken the moment about E, and gotten a result for all the reactions. However, in the solutions it says that i should be taking the moment about D.
    I don't understand what the difference is between picking one point or the other.
    Please refer to the two attached pictures. Thank you
 

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See template for homework section.
You did not show neither the problem nor your solution.
 
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CCenturion said:
Problem -
  1. The T-shaped bracket shown is supported by a small wheel at E and pegs at C and D. Neglecting the effect of friction, determine the reactions at C, D, and E when the angle is 30 degrees.

    I have taken the moment about E, and gotten a result for all the reactions. However, in the solutions it says that i should be taking the moment about D.
    I don't understand what the difference is between picking one point or the other.
    Please refer to the two attached pictures. Thank you
For a system in equilibrium, you can sum moments about any point = 0, but you can simplify the number of steps and reduce chances for errors when summing moments about a selectively chosen point. You might want to first solve for Ex and Ey, then sum moments about D (or C) to see how this works.
 
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Got it Phantom, Thanks a lot !
 
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To determine the appropriate point to take the moment about, it is important to consider the overall equilibrium of the system. In this case, the T-shaped bracket is in a state of static equilibrium, meaning that all forces acting on it are balanced and there is no net movement.

When taking the moment about a point, we are essentially summing up the torques (rotational forces) acting on the system. The chosen point should be one that simplifies the calculations and allows for the unknown reactions to be solved for easily.

In this problem, it seems that both points E and D could be viable options for taking the moment. However, taking the moment about D may be more advantageous because it eliminates the unknown reaction at E, making it easier to solve for the reactions at C and D. Additionally, taking the moment about D may also provide a more accurate representation of the forces acting on the peg at D, as it is directly supporting the bracket.

Overall, the choice of which point to take the moment about may vary depending on the specific problem and what makes the calculations simpler. It is important to carefully consider the equilibrium of the system and choose the most appropriate point for taking the moment.
 

FAQ: How to determine which point to take the moment about?

How do I know which point to take the moment about?

The point chosen for taking the moment should be a fixed point or a point that does not move in the given situation. This point is also known as the pivot point and is usually chosen based on convenience or to simplify calculations.

What happens if I choose the wrong point for taking the moment?

If the wrong point is chosen, the moment calculations will not accurately reflect the actual physical situation. This can lead to incorrect results and can affect the overall accuracy of the analysis.

Can I choose any point for taking the moment?

No, the point chosen for taking the moment should be a point that is relevant to the problem at hand. It should be a point that helps in simplifying the calculations and provides a clear understanding of the forces involved.

How do I determine the direction of the moment?

The direction of the moment is determined by the right-hand rule. Place your right hand on the line of action of the force with your fingers pointing in the direction of the force. Your thumb will then point in the direction of the moment. Alternatively, you can use the cross product formula to determine the direction of the moment.

Is it necessary to take the moment about a specific point?

Yes, taking the moment about a specific point is necessary to accurately analyze the forces and moments acting on a body. It helps in simplifying the calculations and provides a more comprehensive understanding of the problem at hand.

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