How to Find the Force Needed to Reduce Acceleration by 50% in Atwood Setup

In summary, in the given Atwood setup with masses m1 = 4.00 kg and m2 = 8.00 kg, an additional force F needs to be applied to m1 to reduce the acceleration of the system by 50%. Using the equations for M1 and M2, with the given acceleration of 3.266/2 m/s^2, the value of F can be solved for by setting T-4g-F=4a and 8g-T=8a and solving for F. The final value of F is 19.596 N.
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Suppose that in the same Atwood setup another string is attached to the bottom of m1 and a constant force f is applied, retarding the upward motion of m1. If m1 = 4.00 kg and m2 = 8.00 kg, what value of f will reduce the acceleration of the system by 50%?

Now I got the equations for these two as

for M1= T-4g= 4a
for M2= 8g-T= 8a

I got a as 3.266

I got T as 52.264

But I can't get the answer to the asked question. Please HELP me solve this.
 
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Now you have an additional force acting on m1 and a given acceleration. Rewrite your equations accordingly and solve for that force.
 
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I don't know how to do that, please help
 
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How did you get those first equations? It's the same analysis, only now there is an additional force acting on m1.
 
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So is it going to be

T-(4+x)g= (4+x)a

Please help me, I am so fed up of trying to get this right.
 
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please help, I am so fed up of this problem.
 
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parwana said:
So is it going to be

T-(4+x)g= (4+x)a

Please help me, I am so fed up of trying to get this right.
No. What you have written assumes mass is being added to m1. No mass is being added. There is an additional force acting, but no additional mass. Also, you have been given the acceleration as half what it was without the additional force, so (a) is now known.
 
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I don't understand still, can you write it in a equation like I did?
 
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So will it be

T-4g-F= 4(.5a)

In that case I got F= 19.596
 
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parwana said:
So will it be

T-4g-F= 4(.5a)

In that case I got F= 19.596
Did you use the old T, or caclulate the new T? The old T will not work.
 
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Try this. Take your original equations:
parwana said:
for M1= T-4g= 4a
for M2= 8g-T= 8a

I got a as 3.266
Now add the new force F on M1. The equations become:
(for M1) T -4g -F = 4a
(for M2) 8g - T = 8a

You have two unknowns: T and F. Solve for F. (This time around "a" is not an unknown--it's given as 3.266/2 m/s^2.)
 
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thank u so much
 

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