Integration by parts, I on this problem.

In summary, the student is trying to solve an equation involving u and v, but is having trouble with the derivation of the antiderivatives. He splits the problem into two parts, one involving cos(x)^2 and the other involving sin(x), and tries to integrate each separately. He eventually decides to integrate both terms together.
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afcwestwarrior
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Homework Statement


∫ (theta)^3 *cos(theta)^2


Homework Equations


integration by parts ∫u dv= uv- ∫v du



The Attempt at a Solution


u=theta^3 dv=cos(theta)^2
du=3theta^2 v=sin(theta)^2

here's the problem do i use cos(theta)^2 equal to u, because I'm not sure if the antiderivative i got is right

this is where I'm stuck
 
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If you wrote the problem correctly, then you should put [itex]u=cos(\theta^2)[/itex] since the anti-derivative of it can't be expressed in a way which will help you.
 
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ok so u=cos(theta)^2

du=2(theta) *sin(theta)^2
 
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wait...was your question


[tex]\int \theta^3 cos(\theta^2) d\theta[/tex]

OR

[tex]\int \theta^3 (cos\theta)^2 d\theta[/tex]
 
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my question was the 1st one you put
 
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well in that case. [itex]dv=\theta^3 d\theta[/itex]. v=?. Then put it in the formula.
 
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ok i think I'm stuck again now that i have my equation it's
(1/4 cos) (theta)^2 * (theta)^4 - 1/2 ∫theta^4 *(theta)sin(theta)^2
=(1/4) cos (theta)^4 * (theta)^4 -1/2 ∫ (theta)^4 *(theta) sin(theta)^2


i edited it
 
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v= (1/4) theta^4
 
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afcwestwarrior said:
ok so u=cos(theta)^2

du=2(theta) *cos(theta)^2


[tex]u=cos(\theta^2)[/tex]

Let [itex]t=\theta^2 \Rightarrow \frac{dt}{d\theta}=2\theta[/itex]

[tex]u=cos(t) \Rightarrow \frac{du}{dt}=-sin(t)[/tex]

[tex]\frac{du}{d\theta}=\frac{du}{dt}*\frac{du}{d\theta}[/tex]

Check back your du.
 
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oh i did
 
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i forgot to put sin
 
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ok so u=cos (theta)^2
du= - 2(theta) sin theta^2
 
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You might need to another integration by parts and see if it simplifies.
 
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=(1/4) cos (theta)^4 * (theta)^4 -1/2 ∫ (theta)^5 * sin(theta)^2

so i take this part ∫ (theta)^4 * sin(theta)^2
u=sin (theta)^2
du= 2 theta * cos (theta)^2
dv=(theta)^5
v=(1/6) (theta^6)

it looks like i'll keep on integrating
 
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sin (theta)^2 *1/6) (theta^6)-∫ 1/6) (theta^6*2 theta * cos (theta)^2
 
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afcwestwarrior, that's not necessary.

Notice that you can split the (I'm going to make x = theta) x^3 cos (x^2) into 0.5(x^2)(2x cos (x^2)). You solve the problem by integrating the 2x cos (x^2) term and differentiating the 0.5x^2 term.
 
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how'd u make it into 0.5(x^2)(2x cos (x^2)).
 
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Break the x^3 term into x^2 and x.

When you differentiate x^2 you get 2x, so what you need to do is to create a 2x term. So the integral breaks down into 0.5x^2 (2x cos (x^2)).
 
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oh ok
 

FAQ: Integration by parts, I on this problem.

What is integration by parts and when is it used?

Integration by parts is a method used in calculus to evaluate integrals of products of functions. It is typically used when the integral involves two functions that cannot be easily integrated using other methods.

How do you determine which function to differentiate and which one to integrate?

The general rule for choosing which function to differentiate and which one to integrate is called "LIATE" (Logarithmic, Inverse trigonometric, Algebraic, Trigonometric, Exponential). The function that falls first in this list should be chosen to differentiate, while the second function should be integrated.

Can integration by parts be used for definite integrals?

Yes, integration by parts can be used for definite integrals. In this case, the limits of integration should be applied to both sides of the equation.

Is there a specific order in which the terms should be rearranged when using integration by parts?

There is no specific order in which the terms should be rearranged. However, it is important to choose the functions to differentiate and integrate in a way that simplifies the integral as much as possible.

Are there any special cases or exceptions when using integration by parts?

One special case is when one of the functions is the natural logarithm, ln(x). In this case, the choice for which function to differentiate and integrate should be reversed. Another exception is when the integral involves trigonometric functions, in which case a substitution may be needed before applying integration by parts.

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