Is d(v2) the Best Form for Finding the Derivative for Energy?

In summary, the conversation discusses the substitution of variables in a physics problem and the representation of -g as a graph. The correct substitution is determined, and the y-axis is found to be z^2 for the graph to accurately represent -g. The equivalent forms of the first derivative of 2h are also discussed.
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Dousin12
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Homework Statement


1/2mz^2 +mgh=mgh-zero , get g

The Attempt at a Solution


z= velocity

z^2=g(2h0-2h)

if i set z^2=a
2h0=b (nonvariable)
2h=c

a=g(b-c)
y'=-g
Can i then say that

dz^2/d2h = -g

I wonder if every step is correct, The writing inbetween is not very important! I mostly wonder about the math. That if i do the substitution it actually work that way! x0 is not a variable!

dv^2/d2h feels like second derivate, but i use it as a first derivate or something, that was makes me clueless
 
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Dousin12 said:
dv^2/d2h feels like second derivate, but i use it as a first derivate or something, that was makes me clueless
No, it's a first derivative. A second derivative would have a power of 2 on the d itself (in the numerator).
It is correct, though you can take the 2 outside the 'd', in the denominator: ##\frac{d(v^2)}{2dh}##.
The d(v2) can also be simplified.
 
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2v/2dh?

But y-axis has to be z^2 for it to show -g as a graph and not 2z hmmm

I was sortof proving that if y-axis is z^2 and x-axis 2h it will represent

Checked with theory numbers and it shows 9,81 excaltly so it works
 
  • #4
Dousin12 said:
2v/2dh?

But y-axis has to be z^2 for it to show -g as a graph and not 2z hmmm

I was sortof proving that if y-axis is z^2 and x-axis 2h it will represent

Checked with theory numbers and it shows 9,81 excaltly so it works
If the d(v2) form gives you all you need, that's fine. But it can also be written as 2vdv, giving ##v\frac{dv}{dh}##.
 

FAQ: Is d(v2) the Best Form for Finding the Derivative for Energy?

What is a derivative for energy?

A derivative for energy is a mathematical tool used to measure the rate of change of energy with respect to another variable, such as time or position. It is commonly used in physics and engineering to analyze the behavior of energy in various systems.

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