Is root over a^2=modolus of a?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of square roots and how they can be positive or negative. It is mentioned that functions are defined to be single valued and computers have influenced this definition. The conversation also touches on the idea of branch cuts and Riemann surfaces. Finally, there is a discussion about the range of certain functions and how they are defined.
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Is "root over a^2=modolus of a?"

mod of a is always positive, but root over a^2 can both be positive or negative. So how these two can be equal to each other?
I have found this in a math textbook. But I can't convince myself about it.

It will be very helpful if you give a proof.

Thnx in anticipation.
 
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There are two square roots of any number, agreed, but the symbol x^{1/2} is explicitly chosen to be one of them, and for positive real numbers, the positive one is always chosen.
 
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so root over (-5)^2=5
RIGHT?
 
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matt grime said:
There are two square roots of any number, agreed, but the symbol x^{1/2} is explicitly chosen to be one of them, and for positive real numbers, the positive one is always chosen.

Q:When x^{1/2} is a negative real number?
A: Never!
So the negative square root of x is expressed by the symbol -x^{1/2}.
Am I right?
 
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Why not...
 
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Ahmed Abdullah said:
Q:When x^{1/2} is a negative real number?
A: Never!
So the negative square root of x is expressed by the symbol -x^{1/2}.
Am I right?

Yes that's correct. This way [tex]\sqrt{.}[/tex] is a function (single valued) and we can always refer to the positive root of [tex]x^2=1[/tex] as [tex]\sqrt{x}[/tex], or the negative root, [tex]-\sqrt{x}[/tex], or both roots, [tex]\pm \, \sqrt{x}[/tex] as we wish.
 
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This is a dilemma (I think I spelt it wrong...) I had when calculating ranges of certain functions. Because of the way computer have worked since the 70's functions have been defined (especially the SQRT function), to take only one value - the positive value...
 
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prasannapakkiam said:
T Because of the way computer have worked since the 70's functions have been defined (especially the SQRT function), to take only one value - the positive value...


Really? You think that functions are defined to be single valued owing to theinvention of computers in the 70s?
 
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yes, and I have got a few people that agree strongly with this...
 
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I doubt we can pin down the first time someone wrote down the formal definition of a function, but it was many decades before the 1970s. One need only look at the notion of branch cuts and Riemann surfaces (c. 1900) to notice that.
 
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uart said:
Yes that's correct. This way [tex]\sqrt{.}[/tex] is a function (single valued) and we can always refer to the positive root of [tex]x^2=1[/tex] as [tex]\sqrt{x}[/tex], or the negative root, [tex]-\sqrt{x}[/tex], or both roots, [tex]\pm \, \sqrt{x}[/tex] as we wish.

It is great to get rid of every piece of misconceptions.
I am a happy man now. :approve:[tex]^2=1[/tex]
 
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prasannapakkiam said:
yes, and I have got a few people that agree strongly with this...

Next thing you know, arcsin(x) will only return a value between 0 and 2Pi!
 
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Well yes. This is one thing that really irritates me.
 
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Office_Shredder said:
Next thing you know, arcsin(x) will only return a value between 0 and 2Pi!
You mean -pi/2 and pi/2. :wink:
 
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Ahmed Abdullah said:
:smile:It is great to get rid of every piece of misconceptions.
I am a happy man now. :approve:[tex]^2=1[/tex]

Yes that was a typo :blushing:, I meant to say :
... we can always refer to the positive root of [tex]x^2=a[/tex] as [tex]\sqrt{a}[/tex] ...
 
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FAQ: Is root over a^2=modolus of a?

Is the square root of a^2 always equal to the modulus of a?

Yes, the square root of a^2 is always equal to the modulus of a. This is because the modulus is defined as the absolute value of a, and the square root of a^2 is also the absolute value of a.

Can the square root of a^2 be negative?

No, the square root of a^2 cannot be negative. The square root function always returns the positive value of a number.

What is the relationship between the square root of a^2 and the absolute value of a?

The square root of a^2 is equal to the absolute value of a. This means that they have a one-to-one relationship, and one can be used to find the other.

Can the square root of a^2 be a complex number?

Yes, the square root of a^2 can be a complex number. This is because the square root function can return both real and imaginary numbers.

Is the square root of a^2 equal to a for all values of a?

Yes, the square root of a^2 is equal to a for all values of a. This is because the square root function returns the positive value of a number, and a is always a positive number.

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