Isomorphism between R^inf and a proper subset of R^inf

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In summary, the conversation discusses a possible vector space isomorphism between the space of infinite sequences of real numbers and a subspace of that space defined by a specific function. The properties of this function and its inverse are discussed to determine if it establishes an isomorphism. The conclusion is that it does, and a more general theorem is mentioned as well.
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I'm fairly certain the following is a vector space isomorphism [tex]\phi :\mathbb{R}^\infty\rightarrow\mathbb{R}^\infty[/tex] where the vector space is the space of infinite sequences of real numbers and phi is defined by [tex] \phi(a_1,a_2,...)=(0,a_1,a_2,...) [/tex]. The mapping is linear and the inverse seems to be well defined. Is my logic flawed?
 
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the inverse seems to be well defined
What's the inverse of (1, 0, 0, 0, ...)?

(Why are you asking about the inverse anyways?)
 
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You're right. As I wrote it, phi isn't an isomorphism. I'll try again. Define [tex]\phi :\mathbb{R}^\infty\rightarrow S[/tex] ,where [tex]S\subset \mathbb{R}^\infty[/tex] is the subspace containing all infinite sequences of reals of the form [tex](0,a_1,a_2,...)[/tex], as: [tex]\phi(a_1,a_2,...)=(0,a_1,a_2,...)[/tex]. Define the inverse function [tex]\phi^{-1}:S\rightarrow\mathbb{R}^\infty[/tex] as: [tex]\phi^{-1}(0,a_1,a_2,...)=(a_1,a_2,...)[/tex]. Does this establish an isomorphism between [tex]\mathbb{R}^\infty[/tex] and [tex]S[/tex]?
 
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Let's see... the things you need are
1. phi is well-defined
2. phi is linear
3. phi^-1 is well-defined
4. phi^-1 is linear
5. The composition of phi with phi^-1 is the identity
6. The composition of phi^-1 with phi is the identity

You've checked all of those, right? Then congratulations, you have an isomorphism!


Incidentally, you can prove a more general theorem: if phi is injective can you show it's an isomorphism onto its image? (And thus, all you need for your problem is an injection that is not surjective)
 
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yes, it must be because it's surjective onto its image. Also, I think that 1,2,3,5,6 combined imply 4. Thanks a lot!
 

Related to Isomorphism between R^inf and a proper subset of R^inf

1. What is isomorphism between Rinf and a proper subset of Rinf?

Isomorphism is a mathematical concept that describes a one-to-one correspondence between two mathematical structures. In this case, it refers to a bijective mapping between the set of all real numbers (Rinf) and a subset of that set. This means that each element in the subset corresponds to exactly one element in the original set, and vice versa.

2. How can isomorphism be shown between Rinf and a proper subset of Rinf?

Isomorphism can be shown through the use of a function or mapping between the two sets. The function must be bijective, meaning it is both injective (one-to-one) and surjective (onto). This means that each element in the subset has a unique element in the original set, and that every element in the original set is mapped to by at least one element in the subset.

3. Can all subsets of Rinf have an isomorphic relationship with Rinf?

No, not all subsets of Rinf have an isomorphic relationship with Rinf. Only proper subsets, meaning subsets that are not equal to the original set, can have an isomorphic relationship. For example, the set of all positive real numbers is a proper subset of Rinf and can have an isomorphic relationship with Rinf.

4. What is the significance of isomorphism between Rinf and a proper subset of Rinf?

The significance of isomorphism between Rinf and a proper subset of Rinf lies in its ability to show that two seemingly different sets can have the same underlying structure. This can help to simplify mathematical concepts and make them easier to understand and manipulate.

5. Are there any real-world applications of isomorphism between Rinf and a proper subset of Rinf?

Yes, there are several real-world applications of isomorphism between Rinf and a proper subset of Rinf. One example is in the field of computer science, where isomorphism is used in data encryption and compression algorithms. Isomorphism can also be applied in physics and engineering to simplify complex systems and make them easier to analyze and understand.

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