Limit of zeo mass for a dynamical system

In summary, the conversation discusses the characterization of the speed of a crack with an "effective mass" m under a generalized force G. The equation for v' includes an inertial term (1/m) which cannot be ignored, even in the massless limit, as it affects the behavior of the system. Only when taking the limit as m-> 0 does the relationship dG(G- p(v)) = 0 hold.
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Hello All,

from considering the system of equations (differentiation is mean with respect to time for the function v = v(t) )



G' = a - v
v' = (1/m) (G - p (v))

Very briefly, they characterize the speed of a crack with an "effective mass" m under a generalized force G.

Dividing the top equation by the lower oneone can conclude that

dG / dV = m (a - v) / (G- p(v))

Considering the massless limit m-> 0 one then could obtain

dG(G- p(v)) = 0.



After a long preambe, my question : should one not be able to get to the massless limit right from the start by ignoring the term mv' (inertial term) from the start? If I try i do not recover the relationship dG(G- p(v)) = 0

Any help would really be the most appreciated

thanks
 
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in advance No, you cannot ignore the inertial term from the start. The equation for v' includes the inertial term (1/m), which affects the behavior of the system even when m is very small. Even if you start with the massless limit, the inertial term still needs to be taken into account. It's only when you take the limit as m-> 0 that you obtain the relationship dG(G- p(v)) = 0.
 

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What is the limit of zero mass for a dynamical system?

The limit of zero mass for a dynamical system refers to the point at which the system's mass approaches zero. This means that there is either no mass present in the system, or the remaining mass is so small that it has little to no effect on the system's behavior.

Why is the limit of zero mass important in dynamical systems?

The limit of zero mass is important in dynamical systems because it allows us to study the behavior of the system in extreme conditions. By understanding how the system behaves when the mass is approaching zero, we can better understand its overall behavior and make predictions about its behavior in other scenarios.

How does the limit of zero mass affect the stability of a dynamical system?

The limit of zero mass can greatly affect the stability of a dynamical system. In some cases, a system with zero mass may become unstable, as there is no mass present to provide stability. However, in other cases, the system may become more stable as the mass approaches zero, as there is less mass to disrupt the system's equilibrium.

Can the limit of zero mass be applied to all types of dynamical systems?

Yes, the concept of the limit of zero mass can be applied to all types of dynamical systems. This includes mechanical systems, electrical circuits, and biological systems. In each case, the behavior of the system at the limit of zero mass may be different, but the concept remains applicable.

How is the limit of zero mass calculated for a dynamical system?

The limit of zero mass is typically calculated using mathematical equations and models specific to the type of dynamical system being studied. This involves taking into account the properties and variables of the system, such as mass, velocity, and forces, and analyzing how they change as the mass approaches zero.

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