Max Initial Separation for Meeting of Two Moving Bodies

In summary, we are trying to find the maximum initial separation between two bodies that will cause them to meet during their motion. We use the equations s1 = sqr(v1)/2*a1 and s2 = sqr(v2)/2*a2 to calculate the distances traveled by each object before stopping. However, this answer does not match with any of the options provided. The correct answer, according to the book, is option (b), which is the sum of the squares of the initial velocities divided by twice the sum of the retardations.
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Homework Statement


Two bodies move in a straight line towards each other at initial velocities v1 and v2 and with constant retardation a1 and a2 respectively at the initial instant. What is the max initial separation between the bodies for which they will meet during the motion?

(sqr -> square of , root ->square root of)
Options:
a) sqr(v1)/a1 + sqr(v1)/a2
b) sqr(v1+v2)/2(a1+a2)
c)v1*v2/root(a1*a2)
d)sqr(v1)-sqr(v2)/(a1-a2)


Homework Equations



sqr(v) = sqr(u) + 2as


The Attempt at a Solution



Let s1 = Distance traveled by object1 before it stops at last
and s2=Distance traveled by object 2 before it stops

0 = sqr(v1) - 2*a1*s1
s1= sqr(v1)/2*a1
s2=sqr(v2)/2*a2

Max dist=s1 + s2

However, this answer does not match with any of the options above. According to the book, the correct answer is option b.
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My answer doesn't match too.

I did it like this:

[tex]t=\frac{v_{1}}{a_{1}}=\frac{v_{2}}{a_{2}},[/tex]

[tex]s_{1}=v_{1}t-\frac{a_{1}}{2}t^{2}=\frac{v_{1}^{2}}{a_{1}}-\frac{v_{1}^2}{2a_{1}}=\frac{v_{1}^{2}}{2a_{1}},[/tex]

[tex]s_{2}=v_{2}t-\frac{a_{2}}{2}t^{2}=\frac{v_{2}^{2}}{a_{2}}-\frac{v_{2}^2}{2a_{2}}=\frac{v_{2}^{2}}{2a_{2}},[/tex]

but the sum of the last two expressions doesn't match with the (b) option, for which you say that equals to:
[tex]\frac{(v_{1}+v_{2})^{2}}{2(a_{2}+a_{2})}.[/tex]
 
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I would approach this problem by first analyzing the given information and the equations involved. From the given information, we know that two bodies are moving towards each other with initial velocities and constant retardation. This indicates that the bodies are decelerating towards each other, and eventually, they will come to a stop when they meet.

In order for the bodies to meet during their motion, the total distance traveled by both bodies must be equal. This can be represented by the equation:

s1 + s2 = d

Where s1 and s2 are the distances traveled by the two bodies, and d is the initial separation between them.

Using the equations of motion, we can rewrite this equation as:

sqr(v1)/2*a1 + sqr(v2)/2*a2 = d

Now, we need to find the maximum value of d for which the two bodies will meet. This can be done by finding the point of intersection of the two curves represented by these equations.

To do this, we can use the quadratic formula to solve for d:

d = (-b ± sqrt(b^2-4ac))/2a

Where a = a1+a2, b = (v1+v2), and c = 0.

Plugging in the values, we get:

d = (-v1-v2 ± sqrt((v1+v2)^2))/2(a1+a2)

Simplifying this further, we get:

d = (-v1-v2 ± (v1+v2))/2(a1+a2)

Since we are looking for the maximum value of d, we take the positive sign and simplify further to get:

d = (v1+v2)/2(a1+a2)

This matches with option b) in the given options. Therefore, the maximum initial separation between the two bodies for which they will meet during their motion is (v1+v2)/2(a1+a2).

In conclusion, as a scientist, I would use the equations of motion and the concept of equal distances traveled to analyze and solve this problem. I would also double check my calculations to ensure that my answer matches with the given options or any other known solution.
 

FAQ: Max Initial Separation for Meeting of Two Moving Bodies

What is the "Max Initial Separation" for the meeting of two moving bodies?

The "Max Initial Separation" refers to the maximum distance between two moving bodies at the start of their motion, before they begin to move towards each other. This distance is often denoted by the symbol "d".

How is the "Max Initial Separation" calculated?

The "Max Initial Separation" can be calculated using the equation d = ut, where u is the initial velocity of the two bodies and t is the time at which they begin to move towards each other. This equation assumes that the two bodies are moving in a straight line towards each other.

What factors can affect the "Max Initial Separation" for the meeting of two moving bodies?

The "Max Initial Separation" can be affected by several factors including the initial velocity of the bodies, their acceleration, and the distance between them. Other factors such as external forces or friction can also play a role in determining the maximum initial separation.

Why is the "Max Initial Separation" important in studying the motion of two bodies?

The "Max Initial Separation" is important because it helps us understand the relationship between the initial conditions of two moving bodies and their subsequent motion towards each other. It also allows us to make predictions about the behavior of these bodies and their meeting point.

Can the "Max Initial Separation" be negative?

No, the "Max Initial Separation" cannot be negative. This is because distance is a scalar quantity and cannot have a negative value. However, if the two bodies are moving away from each other, the initial separation can be considered negative with respect to their direction of motion.

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