Multivariable Indefinite Limits

In summary, the conversation discusses evaluating a limit in multiple variables and how to deal with 1^∞ indefinite limits. Substitution and finding multiple paths are suggested as approaches, but it is noted that finding multiple paths does not necessarily determine the existence of a limit. It is ultimately concluded that the limit in question is e.
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Homework Statement


Evaluate the following limits or determine that the limit does not exist.

b) lim (x,y)–>(0,0) (1+xy)^(1/xy)

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The Attempt at a Solution



I have a funny feeling this limit might exist. (Then again I get that feeling about every indefinite limit...) Can this be simplified further?

I tried converting ƒ to e^log ƒ to get rid of the exponent. Work attached.

Is there a better way of dealing with 1^∞ indefinite limits in more than one variable? Something with more of a multivariable calc flavor?
 

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Doesn't this remind you of limx→0(1+x)1/x ?

By the Way: If you do your last step correctly, you merely get the original problem back.
 
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It took me forever, but I remember know! e

I had learned e as lim x→∞ (1+1/x)^x so it didn't quite jump out.

i know the limit of F as (x,y) → (0,y) = y + e (x,y) → (x,0) = x + e

How can I combine these results?

Or is that making things unnecessarily complicated?
 
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On your attached work sheet:
The line with the following is correct.
[itex]\displaystyle \lim_{(x,y)\to(0,0)\,}e^{\displaystyle \frac{1}{xy}\ln\left(1+xy\right)}[/itex]​
The next line is incorrect. It should be either
[itex]\displaystyle \lim_{(x,y)\to(0,0)\,}\left(e^{\frac{1}{xy}}\right)^{\ln\left(1+xy\right)}[/itex]

or else what you started with.​

The point is to get
[itex]\displaystyle e^{\left\{\displaystyle \lim_{(x,y)\to(0,0)\,}\left(\frac{1}{xy}\ln\left(1+xy\right)\right)\right\}}[/itex]​

I've tried working with this in several ways and always get e, but I'm still not convinced it is e.
 
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Would you feel better if you let u= xy and looked at
[tex]\lim_{u\to 0} (1+ u)^{1/u}[/tex]
 
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I would feel A LOT better. What sort of 'approach' is that substitution?

Also would I need to find another path to see if the limit truly exists. I know when you substitute r = x^2 + y^2 you approach from all sides but I'm not quite sure how to visualize u =xy
 
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Well, I would call it "substitution"!

And "finding another path" would not tell you it converges. Finding two different paths where the limit, along that path, is different tells you there is NO limit. But it is possible, in two or more dimensions, to have a limit where, approaching the point along an infinite number of paths (even every possible straight line) gives the same result yet there exist at least one other path where you get a different result so there is no limit.

Here, no matter what path you take, as x and y both go to 0, xy goes to 0. This is really just a single variable limit!
 

FAQ: Multivariable Indefinite Limits

What is a multivariable indefinite limit?

A multivariable indefinite limit is a mathematical concept used to describe the behavior of a function as the input variables approach a certain value, without specifying a specific value for the variables. It is often denoted by the symbol "lim" followed by the input variables and the function.

How is a multivariable indefinite limit calculated?

A multivariable indefinite limit is calculated by taking the limit of the function as each input variable approaches the specified value. This involves evaluating the function at different values of the variables and observing the pattern of the outputs. The limit is then determined by looking at the overall trend of the outputs.

What is the significance of a multivariable indefinite limit?

A multivariable indefinite limit is important because it helps us understand the behavior of a function at certain points and can be used to make predictions about the function's behavior in a particular area. It also allows us to determine if a function is continuous or discontinuous at a certain point.

What are some common techniques for evaluating multivariable indefinite limits?

Some common techniques for evaluating multivariable indefinite limits include substitution, factoring, and using trigonometric identities. Additionally, L'Hôpital's rule can be used for certain types of indeterminate forms. It is important to remember that the method used to evaluate a limit will depend on the specific function and the values of the input variables.

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